Bassmidget209

Current shrunken board as my band is currently drummer-less. Managed to get a good deal on a pedal train nano with a cioks Adam bolted to the underside. For the most part its just an amp modeller on the zoom with a bit of grit coming from the digbeth, but have the option to be more adventurous should the need arise! Of course as soon as a drummer appears the fuzz and the octave are coming back 🤣

I have the same power supply and I have the zoom ms60b. There is a good chance that's your problem. Was with me anyways. The zooms are apparently very picky with their power source. You can get a wee power conditioner from Palmer that fits under your board. Run that between the power supply and the zoom and that could solve (some) of your problems. I have had zero issues with hum since I did that. The conditioner was just over 20 quid from memory

Please tell me the neep lights up. That's an outstanding looking board

Well to be honest yeah kind of like what you done with your own pedals (I have never played a BB or a tone hammer for that matter). I found the digbeth, while functionally great, to be very neutral sounding. I think I said it in another post somewhere but I kind of realised I wasn't happy with the natural sound of my bass, or perhaps I had used a sansamp for so long I had become accustomed to that sound. With both together I could get the sound from the sansamp while bringing out an eveb more desirable sound by tweaking the EQ in the digbeth that I couldn't really achieve in the same way with the on board eq on the sansamp (admittedly limited experimentations here). It's a cumbersome setup but does sound good but it's not my forever plan. I'm mainly restricted by finances at this point so I'm muddling through with what I have rather than buying something else. Although recently going back to just the digbeth has made me rethink all this. Also coming to the realisation that I and my 'technique' may be the problem rather than the boxes at my feet (shocking I know). Anyways glad your on the Laney bus. Always been a fan of the company since my guitar days. Looks like they are really getting a following with their bass stuff now!

If you really want to complicate things, try the sansamp into the digbeth. Gives you the sansamp flavour with a more comprehensive EQ to bring out the character of the sound. I also use this set up to have a footswitchable gain but I don't think you need that judging by your description. In saying all that I have recently reverted back to just the digbeth. My band are without a drummer for now so having two preamps was a bit overkill for an acoustic set!

I'm gonna go with 'no' haha. Don't have a decent set of headphones in the house sadly, that may have been part of the problem, however as I said through the amp was ok. I hardly ever do this though. If I'm practicing I play acoustically with no effects and no amps. I have a small house and two kids, as well as two house rabbits. I don't even have a flat surface to call my own so setting up a practice rig is messy, uncomfortable and rarely worth it to me. I may not be the most useful person to have in this conversation but thought I would contribute with my own experience.

Yes basically. I've not done it in a a while, basically when I first got it. I was hoping this would be a great silent practicing tool that was compact. However it did not create an enjoyable practice experience. If I ever have to do this I set up my amp (ampeg pf350) alongside the pedal board and plug my headphones into the amp. Genuinely it's a great pedal but I would think of it as a DI/preamp/eq/drive pedal that happens to have a headphone out rather than a practice headphone amp. But hey for the price they had to get something wrong I suppose lol

I have no experience of any of these other than the digbeth. It is a great preamp but the headphone out has always struck me as an afterthought. Quite quiet and no way to adjust the volume separately. Always sounded a bit thin to me but that may have been the headphones I was using. Everything else about it is great though, if you just need to be able to hear yourself while having a powerful gigging platform it can work.

I always keep one slotted in the gap between the body and my bridge pickup (your bass may vary) I use 1mm picks typically, which I believe is not your bag but try it. It feel it's like a sidearm. Always in perfect reach when needed

Current iteration of the board just before we played today in Paisley. Need to fix my squinty fuzz. Never set it back in place since we recorded last month! All in all enjoying the sounds, apart from it being somewhat cumbersome between the two preamps and the ms60b. Going forward looking to condense the functionality while keeping/enhancing the tone!

Oh that looks great. Especially with the case, that's amazing for the money.......even twice the money to be honest. Having the space underneath the second tier I would stick the power supply underneath. Do you have one already or are you looking for supply recommendations as well? Velcro wise it's your call. If you want the very best then dual lock is the way to go. It's rock solid, compared to traditional velcro HOWEVER if this is your first pedal board I can almost guarantee you don't have a defined setup yet (if we are being honest, who does?!) Stick with normal velcro for now or even zip ties. That's a great find and looks really light weight, a step above your traditional pedal train offerings and looks the bomb!

I've chased it for a looong time. I have always stick with a sansamp (v1) until a brief period over the past few years. I had an issue with the missing mids and vowed to work with a different preamp. Got a digbeth (Laney) found a whole new world of tonal options and loved footwitchable drive, especially at the end of the chain. In the end missed the sansamp sound. Got a paradriver off of here but still felt it wasn't right. Eventually decided to run the sansamp into the digbeth and it does the job for me for now. I would love a single pedal that does everything they both do. It for now these are doing what I want, if anything enhancing one another

To me the digbeth is much more neutral. Yes you can tweak the eq and make It dirtier but it doesn't 'colour' your sound the way a sansamp does (for the record, have never used the VT bass, only the v1 sansamp and paradriver). Depends what you are looking for, or alternatively do what I do and run the sansamp into the digbeth - footwitchable drive and advanced eq while still getting the baked in sound of the sansamp (yes this is cumbersome but it does work surprisingly well).

If it helps I have one that was used on my mexican jazz. I've since reverted back to standard jazz pickups so it is surplus to requirements. It's white, don't know if that's the colour you were going for?

I think you mean 'do you play guitar?'

Would also recommend the ms60b. Several reasons, 1, it's a good way to 'try' multi effects without committing to the concept. It's small enough to fit on most boards, but also it doesn't take over your existing board and therefore your way of thinking about effects. Its an accessory pedal, not the one stop shop, or main focus in the same way I feel the stomp or a helix would be. 2 it is solidly built and not expensive, as far as these things go. Even brand new it's cheaper than most multis (other zooms aside) but it is also solid metal. I know it sounds silly but that makes feel more ' real' to me and not an entry level product. With these 2 things in mind I feel it can grow with your board. It's a real handy little device that doesn't take up a lot of space so you can afford to have it hang around for the sounds it does well. Also another handy thing is it's a BASS pedal. It has just about every flavour of effect but they are tuned in for bass and optimised for a bass specific role. You don't have 70-80% of the presets that are absolutely useless for your application. I felt it gave the initial explorations a more grounded feel and less likely to result in overwhelm. So downsides - it's eh, small. It does make setting up presets and the like challenging/frustrating. They have really thought about how to make the most use of of the tiny space available but it results in a lack of intuitiveness that I think a larger screen and touchscreen capabilities etc would really help with. That's the main issue, namely, it's a multieffect and therefore doesn't rely entirely on knobs and led lights. If that bothers you in this setup it's a cheaper lesson than a stomp or the like. If you are in a cover band or something where you need A sound, night after night, ideally at the push of a button. Dive into the multieffects world and just go for it. If your still experimenting and seeing what you want and what you love then something like the zoom starts to make a lot of sense. Oh and it needs really clean power otherwise it's a hummy mess. It needs quality isolated power or a wee power conditioner then your good!

Hey just thought I would post a follow up for future reference. Full PA as would be expected. Our on stage sound was awful, partly due to possibly Inadequate monitors, partly an inexperienced sound tech. From what we have gathered we sounded good out front and the gig was fun. Top tip, most people will stay outside given the chance (which is fair enough, it's a lovely place to bo.honest) but means very few watching you, try and make an effort to drag people in OR arrange for a massive thunderstorm before your set. Worked wonders for the other two bands!

Thanks guys so far. Yeah I'm sure it's very similar to venues in Glasgow in that the bass amp is basically a stage monitor. I just don't want to be wrong haha. I would ask the promoter but the messages this far he kept referring to amps as cabs so I'm not sure he's the person to get good information on this stuff lol

Hey guys hope you can help. I have a gig in the aforementioned pub/venue on the 8th July. Now the fun part is that I have volunteered my amp for the bassists. Now I have zero issues sharing but I'm now concerned I'm underpowered. I have a 350watt ampeg portaflex and an 8 ohm ashdown 2x10 cab. It's not a stellar setup I know but honestly it's there so I have AN amp for times that it's not provided by the venue (my main tone comes through my preamp pedals). Now I have used this setup a few times in practice and it's...fine. holds its own etc but I'm worried that it won't work for other bands or running it at full pelt for a whole night is gonna result in a small explosion at some point. So my question to everyone is this: does anyone have any recent experience with this venue and is the PA etc decent? Will my amp be supported by the PA or am I gonna have to get an extra cab sharpish? I would really rather not put a cab on credit if I don't have to but I also don't want to let the other bands and ultimately the crowd down as well with subpar bass noise! Thanks in advance everyone!

Our singer has really pushed/harassed me into doing more backing vocals. When I joined the band I couldnt sing and play at the same time. If I'm being honest I still can't! Certainly not on the fly. I need to know exactly what I'm singing, it would appear I have very limited mental bandwidth so if I have to play, sing AND think about what to say I'm gonna stop breathing or fall over or something. I have improved massively though, there's certain lines where I'm doing something reasonably complex and singing/shouting and I'm now doing it almost naturally. I think my voice is ok, but nervous about saying so so backing vocals will do for me for now! I will say practice, practice, practice makes it though. Even if you think it's impossible now just keep plugging away and you will get somewhere. Maybe not geddy lee levels but still somewhere.

Hi tech21 does this apply to the paradriver as well? Just curious.

Just bought a pedal from Ander. Very good communication and was willing to keep it on hold for me. Posted almost as soon as it was paid for. Very pleasant transaction and can't wait to try it out at rehearsal!

That's what's holding me back as well. ...Well that and a complete inability to pay for either.

If your wanting compact then I would say the plethora (TC electronic) X5 or x3 if you want it really compact

Also have a Harley Benton iso pro (non AC version) and I've had very little issues with it. Only problem has been with a zoom ms60b that was very noisy with it. Seemed to be a known issue with zoom pedals being funny with power supplies. Anyways sorted it with a little Palmer power conditioner that sits under the board alongside the power supply and it has been silent ever since