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[quote name='Subthumper' timestamp='1402412082' post='2473185'] Very suspicious. Bet you can't buy a turbosound pa cab for that money that handles 2800 watts!! [/quote] I wouldn't be surprised if you could.... seeing as they are owned by the same company!

People always bring the '6 Plumbers out at midnight' quote which is irrelevant really. I was being sarcastic

I do plumbing for free in my spare time for enjoyment.....

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1401357407' post='2462713'] Interesting posts, and they all just show that there are no rules and no 'list prices'. No doubt most bands just want to make as much money as possible and I'm sure if a pub offered £1500 for a night no one would turn around and say "no guv, that's way too much, the going rate is only £250". Everything is negotiable, but not everything is a deal. [/quote] I think it depends on where you market your band.... of course there are a million bands playing weddings that charge £5/600 a go.... do you want to be in that price bracket? I think far too many bands undersell themselves

[quote name='cameltoe' timestamp='1401304862' post='2462318'] I like to think we're a fairly standard pub band in as much as our gigging schedule and what we charge, and when wedding enquiries come in we will charge a bit more. We didn't start off charging more, but with time comes a bit of wisdom- 1) most weddings are terrible, terrible gigs where you wish you hadn't bothered. I hate to go out and just play for the money, but for weddings, that's often the case. 2) you can expect to be told to get there a good few hours earlier than you would for a pub gig, only to stand around until all the formalities have finished, (usually a good 45 minutes+ than you were told they would be) at which point you'll either be told by 'Jesper' the wedding planner, or Bridezilla, that you need to start in 10 minutes. The massive amount of gear piled up outside the marquee that you and I would call a 'PA' seems to have escaped their attention. This is despite agreeing before the wedding that it will take over an hour to set up. 3)Mother in law will despise you, and spend most of the gig either telling you to turn down, or eyeballing you from the side of the stage. 4) despite agreeing with the happy couple you will play 2x 1 hour sets with a small break in between, they will still expect you to start at 8 and finish around midnight come the big day. 5) they may want you to get there in the middle of the day to set up the PA so they can play tunes through it before you start. I actually don't mind doing this, as it cuts down on the possibility of 2) happening. 6) father of the bride will usually be responsible for payment at the end of the night, and he will typically fall into 2 categories- type 1 is the 'music fan' dad who wants to be your friend, talks to you whilst setting up (inevitably slowing this process down) tells you all about his really nice Yamaha guitar, spends a lot of time dancing right in front of you during the gig (on the verge of air guitar- you can almost see him twitching) and running up straight after the gig to pay you and chat about how great you were. These guys are ok, and will usually stay with you (often helping to load gear into the van) until you drive home. They will continue to tell you 'honestly guys, that was fantastic' until you until you leave. Type no.2 is the Scarlet Pimpernell, who you see fleeting glimpses of during the evening but will not approach you or dance. He then pulls a Lord Lucan as soon as you've finished and no one can track him down, delaying your departure quite significantly. We have left weddings empty handed before because of the Scarlett Pimpernell dad, and had to hire Columbo to track down our payment. 6) they will ask you to learn a cover that you hate, and playing it will make you feel like you've sold your soul to the devil. So, yes, we charge a bit more when it comes to weddings. I also feel that a wedding is a one-off, where as a pub is likely to give you repeat bookings for several years if they like you, so even though you charge the pub less, ultimately you may get 4 gigs a year for the next few years from your landlord. It's like a trade price thingy. [/quote] From my perspective (playing predominantly in wedding/function bands) 1. Weddings are fantastic gigs.... You get to play in often very nice surroundings with other businesses that are working for the same client to make their big day as special as can be. You often make great contacts through these other businesses and obtain further bookings through them as they can honestly recommend you having seen your offering. 2. Yes there is a lot of waiting around but any Wedding band worth their salt would have been into the venue prior too them setting the breakfast/evening room and set up and sound checked long before any of the guests arrived. This is part of what you charge a fee for! Working in unison with the wedding organiser is part of your remit as a wedding band.... Working against them will only end with a no faith view from this person. 3. Prior too the big day, as an event supplier you should arrange to meet with Bride, Groom, Mother/Father & in law (if they are paying) Venue/wedding organiser. You should do this to go through the running of their day and where you will fit in around the schedule thats planned, making clear the time allocated for setting up, guest speeches etc... 4. Timing is part of the pre-event meeting. It's important that you get this discussed. Yes the speeches will run over... they always do. 5. As already mentioned. Get there early. Set up. Sound check. Dress the stage. Get out until required. 6. Full payment of the gig is usually accepted 2 weeks prior to the event. At booking get a deposit 25% say with the rest to be paid 2 weeks (or whatever you feel comfortable with) prior to the event. Make sure that you have full payment before you even turn up on site. Why on earth would you play before you are paid. 7. They will ask you to play a cover that you may hate. This is what you get paid for.... if you feel like you have just snogged Justin Bieber for doing this then you are not really ideally placed to play in a wedding band. This is what you get paid for. Weddings are a one off... however, word of mouth.... honest recommendations from people that saw you perform throughout the day.... other wedding suppliers seeing you work hard to provide a professional service.... will gain you more bookings that will far out strip 4 gigs at the dog and duck next year. We get another booking or recommendation at pretty much every wedding we play. There are bands that will take wedding gigs and their are Wedding Event Suppliers.... you have to think as the latter. I find a lot of bands under value what they charge.. We work on roughly 10% of the wedding budget. Our average package offering is £1950 for the band and DJ. It can go up from there depending on location and if the couple require additional support such as Audio Visual equipment.

The price is the price.... If you cannot justify it then you have to ask yourself why you are charging it. You can't just say we charge 'x' amount for weddings. There has to be a reason. There are always bands willing to play for no money and people always willing to accept them. You have to work out what your price/package is and run with that.

Don't forget you will need everything PAT tested and have PLI cover. Pre-meets with the venue and clients.

There's a pinned thread somewhere here on weddings too.... read it!

Only if you can justify your extra cost..... too many pub bands thinking they offer the same deal....

[quote name='martthebass' timestamp='1400845933' post='2457457'] As a buyer where I bring lots of stuff in from China I was hoping that would be the case. I'd much rather save some money and get the ZLX over the RCF's......unfortunately my ears said differently so I'm still in save up mode. Just my opinion though someone else could think exactly the opposite. [/quote] Exactly... which is why I said that you should go and check out speakers with some familiar tracks ..... everyone has a different view on the sound they expect.

You know the Chinese argument doesn't really stack up these days.... I'd stick the ZLX up against anything from a European manufacture base.

The 12's have a great lower extension. More so than the 15's I'd say for the size of box. If you are gonna be sticking kick or the like through them you would want a sub anyway. But they are very respectable on their own

Yeah I work for them. I prefer the 12" ZLX-P over the 15' to be honest. There's plenty of good speakers in the price range you are looking at. Check out RCF too. At the end of the day it's personal preference to the cabinet sound. The ZLX has a greater DSP control over the other brands and is pretty competitive and has a 3year warranty too. The best thing you can do is get yourself down to somewhere like PMT or the like and compare a few out with some pre-recorded music you are familiar with so you can get a good idea

Thing with Tribute bands is that if you want regular well paid gigs then you are gonna have to do a take on one of the big band names (Queen, U2, The Goombay Dance Band, etc, etc) as most venues want to sell tickets to these events. A friend of mine played in a Toto & Journey tribute band performing all the live sets.... sounded great.... think they managed to sell one show. I've gone down the route of a tribute to a genre.... which works really well.

EV.... but then again I am completely biased

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1393803279' post='2384595'] Nice review. Can you try a pub in Chelmsford or Southend next for a comparison? [/quote] Hehehe..... As I play in most of the pubs in and around Essex.... Dire bilge for most I 'd say..... 85% of bands playing the same bloody songs at different levels of volume. Lets go out saturday night and go watch another band play Dakota, Sex on Fire or Mr Brightside.

Depends on what the gig requires...... and what the booker is paying you for.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1394916173' post='2396736'] ok, thanks. I will see how this Elements system works. I am hoping the system has the 8 mini speakers per side as that would rate 300watts ...if it only has 4 then I am not confident it will work or be man enough. I best check ... fortunately, the user/system has 8 subs, so I guess we can pair up the tops and run 4 if we need to use more.. I think we are going down this route as it was the first one offered... We also have a Nexo PS10 and LS600 rig to try..and I am really keen to hear that. [/quote] Also EV have just launched the ETX range..... proper loud and ideal for the function circuit... should have product in uk around beginning of May

If you want to demo something with a bit more bollox and bottom end we have the Dynacord V-Array. Let me know if you want a demo [url="http://www.dynacord.com/en/products/7/2/80_va215.html"]http://www.dynacord.com/en/products/7/2/80_va215.html [/url]

Hey Anita.... I'm just down the road in Wickford..... let me know if you are out playing and I'll come watch! J

Was at the Messe over the past few days and spent a bit of time with the Cort stand..... the GB75 really is an astonishing bass for the money.

How much you looking for? Any trades at all

As JTUK says.... go listen to Bernie E play on the Chic numbers... great tunes to practice too.... It can be painful in the beginning just don't over do it.... otherwise you'll end up with a dodgy hand. one of my faves to play with the octave bounce is Canned Heat by Jamiroquai

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1392654790' post='2371123'] For some there is active. For others there is passive. For all other lost souls, there is Bose. [/quote] T-shirt being printed as we speak..... haha

There is no right or wrong.....