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[size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Personally I use VSL special editions 1 and 2, and the 1 and 2 plus. Loads of articulations, which are all very playable. The only problem for some folks is that the library is recorded dry. But the samples are pristine. The downside of this is you have to use you own verb tails and halls to position the instruments in their Orchestral seating positions. Although you can purchase extra verb, hall and studios of the world and the presets do the placements for you. But of course you can then mix and match with other vendor libraries very easily. The Instruments are both in full Symphonic set up as well as Chamber size. I also use Cinematic Strings, full Symphonic straight out of the box, very lush with all the Instruments in their positions. The articulations are limited to the basics, but beautiful, realistic sounding. The best Orchestral libraries out there with out a doubt are. The two above, the East West stuff, Project Sam, Spitfire Audio, Orchestral Tools, Cinesamples and L.A.S.S. They all come at a price, but most have cut down versions or you can buy sections one at a time. For Piano, I use Cinesamples 'Piano in Blue' V2. Nice sounding, with good velocity touch and playability. There are so many Piano libraries out there, it will always come down to your personal choice of sound in your head. I have my eyes on one of these Grand Pianos at the moment ( sale deals going on at the present). These samples always get good reviews, so worth checking out the demos. [url="http://www.sampletekk.com/grand-pianos"]http://www.sampletekk.com/grand-pianos[/url] If you have not done so already, get yourself over to VI Control. Everything you need with lots of very helpful experienced composers. All the info you need on libraries, composing for Orchestra, tutorials and all the new deals (usually discounted) regarding software. Just about everything 'Midi Mock Up'. [url="http://vi-control.net/portal/"]http://vi-control.net/portal/[/url] One thing worth considering if you are undecided, is the monthly library rental that is in place over at 'East West'. [url="http://www.soundsonline.com/?ref=subpage"]http://www.soundsonl...om/?ref=subpage[/url] Of course, getting convincing, real sounding Orchestral results is not just about the sounds, it is as much about knowing what Instruments work with what (voicing wise etc), and all the articulations involved, and use them how a real player would, along with Reverbs, Halls and seating placements in the mix etc.[/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Always a learning process, without a doubt. Good luck with the project.[/font][/size]

Perhaps one voter passed away before he could finish. I voted three times......M'lud.

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1440520799' post='2851531'] I think there are a lot of gigging middle aged self taught musicians who's first knowledge of playing came through playing riffs like that. [/quote] No doubt about it.

Voted - Well done all.

It's actually making me feel sick posting this....but... 'Sunshine Of Your Love'. Back in the day, a music shop wasn't a music shop, unless some shop worker was sitting on top of a combo, banging it out loudly as you walked in, and straight out again.

[quote name='project_c' timestamp='1440451550' post='2850954'] Having said that, with most of these guys, their chops are a product of deep musical knowledge, and those chops come from a genuine place rather than as a one off party trick. [/quote] Yep, I agree with that.

[quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1440167270' post='2848802'] I don't like the white title bars on all of the windows though. I liked the aero look much better. Can't get that Cortana thing to work either. [/quote] You can now download a small utility to change colours. http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/7935-color-window-borders-title-bars-change-windows-10-a.html

I know Brad Lang did some of the Fretless stuff. I used to work for his dad (RIP), Bandleader and Trombone player - Don Lang. Yep, a good album with some seriously good musicians on it. Some great arranging as well.

[quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1440167270' post='2848802'] I don't like the white title bars on all of the windows though. I liked the aero look much better. Can't get that Cortana thing to work either. [/quote] Yep, that is annoying. I hope there is a way to change colour. There is in the Edge browser, although it is just to black. Been running for three weeks now, and I have to say, no problems on my DAW PC, or in fact, any of our home desktops.

[quote name='bassbiscuits' timestamp='1435319549' post='2807625'] Ah now I'm ok with Sir Duke, but only recently realised its in A flat, not A, which racks up the difficultly level a smidgeon... Kick ass tune tho. [/quote] Great tune and a great play for Bass. Original key is B major though.

Interesting... I got 898 with the mouse, but tapping on my iPad, 922.

[quote name='Bassjon' timestamp='1440062740' post='2847905'] I know its old and out of date now but my vote goes to Cubase. Its so simple even I can do it! [/quote] Why is it out of date? Just curious.

If not done already, try this when installing. Right click on installer, then Run as Administrator.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1439544979' post='2843686'] Yes. But for it to be music and not just noise, someone has to appreciate it as such. [/quote] Ah.....But English people love noise. [i]"The English may not like music, but they do love the noise it makes"[/i] [i]Sir Thomas Beecham.[/i] Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_beecham.html#0CBm5UiqidoLzlTf.99

[quote name='Nicko' timestamp='1439481619' post='2843284'] That might explain my problem working out what scale it was. [/quote] No problem. I was just wondering, why you might be complicating it.

For some reason, the OP wants to play the verse in Db (C#) and the chorus in D.

[quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1439473783' post='2843165'] Arguably G# appears as a passing chord. The bass plays the roots. [/quote] Yep, as does the C# as well.

Are you talking about 'The Undertones' version? Just had a quick listen (and that was too long ) on Da Tube. Sounds like it's in D major to me. D... /...C# / B minor../.. C# / etc (Bar Before the chorus an A major instead of the C#). Chorus. G G# A (all major). So all in all - Key of D Major. In the link bit, it sounds like a Dsus before the C#. Of course, If you are talking about another tune - Ignore my ramblings.

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1439451632' post='2842886'] It's all over the place, but IIRC the main riff is in 7/8, then it moves to 5/4 for the F#-E section and then 4/4 for the guitar solo. [/quote] Originally Walters and Gilmour said it was in 7/8. Then some years later, Gilmour said it was 7/4. They might have thought 7/8 sounded more proggy and impressive.

Stevie Wonder, 'I Wish". Nathan Watts. Eb minor (Gb).

^^^ No need to bring Drummers into this.*

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1439403823' post='2842572'] If DJs aren't musicians then neither are conductors... [/quote] Although you might be hard pressed to find a good conductor that doesn't play an Instrument.

Good stuff folks, glad it all worked out!

[quote name='rogerstodge' timestamp='1439398492' post='2842495'] Sir Duke, Stevie Wonder. Nathan Watts, key of C i think? [/quote] I thought it was a song in the key of life? B major - Nightmare for the blowers.

Some think it was earlier than that, and pushed and made popular by the above. Quote: "What were some of the first records in the early 80's to adopt the huge reverb on snare and vocals that became associated with that era. Or was it late 70's that this trend started? What popularized it was when Phil Collins played drums on the Peter Gabriel track "Intruder" produced by Hugh Padgham. After that the flood gates were opened for the 80's... From Wiki... Perhaps the earliest known use of the gated snare drum technique was on the recording Mondo Bondage (first verse only) from the 1975 self-titled debut album of the San Francisco rock band The Tubes.[dubious – discuss] The drums were played by Prairie Prince. Recording produced by Al Kooper and engineered by Lee Rhett Keifer. Recording engineer Rudy Van Gelder used it on many of the songs on the 1976 album Velvet Darkness by Jazz fusion guitarist Allan Holdsworth.[citation needed] The drummer on this recording was Narada Michael Walden. Another early use of this technique was on the 1977 David Bowie album Low. Use of the gated reverb effect spread to popular music during the 1980s. Producer Mutt Lange was a pioneer at drenching the recorded drum sound in gated reverb. An early and prominent use of gated reverb was in Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins and Hugh Padgham's production of the third Peter Gabriel solo album" http://youtu.be/RP04AiRv8N0