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[quote name='Shockwave' post='465629' date='Apr 17 2009, 11:04 PM']Generally i find that bass lines do not follow the vocals lines at all in many cases. Your playing a longer instrument that requires more muscle to play. If you play with fingers its even worse, Its like your playing with 3 plectrums ie fingers. As for me, I can perform growl vocals pretty well whilst playing, but couldnt do cleans unless I was playing very simple lines.[/quote] [quote name='bubinga5' post='465630' date='Apr 17 2009, 11:04 PM']I think i know why..With the guitar, you form your hand position and hold it there, then sing a part..With a bass you are moving around that chord all the time with single notes..so requires more concentration.. its more difficult to play the bass and sing than guitar IMHO....The guitar is very in tune rythmically to vocals ( unless your finger picking) so is easier..the Bass requires( not always) A different route through the song so is alot harder to sing against..[/quote] hmmm, thanks guys, that makes sense. guitar, and i'm talking of just typical rhythm guitar here, is much easier to play, mentally, than the bass...a few chord positions and one pick, versus having to move all 9 fingers independently. now i don't feel so thick! still wish i could master it though....just as well really, i can't sing anyways!

i believe it's cause either by pushing down harder than you need to or harder than you're used to -- i get is sometimes, but only when i'm fluffing around and being silly, bending strings ridiculously and such. i could be completely wrong, but from your description it seems like the same thing.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='465510' date='Apr 17 2009, 08:45 PM']just because speaker diameter is not a good thing to solely judge a cabinet on does not mean it doesn't make a difference.[/quote] sorry, just generalizing. there are really too many other factors in play for it to mean much though -- except in terms of things like response lobing and radiation patterns. and even then, radiation patterns are greatly effected by the type, size, and build of the enclosure. see what i mean? too many factors -- this isn't even getting into half of it!

[quote name='Skybone' post='465549' date='Apr 17 2009, 09:30 PM']That is not what I was saying. In an ideal world, we wouldn't need money, music would be free and we'd all get along, no wars, no famine, no poverty. Unfortunately, in this society that we live in, money is king. Look at what's happened in the last 6 to 9 months. I along with many others lost my job, though I'm fortunate enough to have found another one, but my family and I've had to relocate, and I've had to leave my band when we were starting to make a name for ourselves. Who paid for your last bout of GAS? Who put petrol/diesel in the vehicle that you travelled to your last rehearsal/gig? Who paid for your last recording session? Who paid for those CD's you give away? Who did the artwork for those CD's? Who's internet account are you using? Being in a band costs. It costs time and effort, as well as money. Unfortunately, the time and effort that you put into a band cannot be quantified, the only measure you can put on it is what you personally get out of it. I put heart and soul into my last band, and I also funded it. I paid for the recording sessions, I travelled 140 miles round trip to rehearse, I bought a lot of gear, as did the other guys, and I got a lot of satisfaction out of it. We got a lot of positive feedback from gigs and from reviews of the CD's we released. I sold more CD's and t-shirts to mainland Europe and America than to the UK, as well as giving a shed load away for promotion to zines/sites/promoters/etc and didn't make a penny on any of it, everything was ploughed back into the band, but still people expect us to give our music away. It won't stop me from making music in the future, it won't stop me from trying to get my music heard by anyone who wants to listen, it'll make me think twice about trying to make a serious go of things again though.[/quote] hi, in a band myself thanks, fully support all my own expenses, been laid off twice in the last year -- and still think free internet music distribution is the way forward. i'm not saying artists should never make any money, what i'm saying is that spreading your music around for free is an excellent way to build a fanbase. people who like you WILL buy your cd, they WILL come see you live, they WILL buy your stuff -- have faith in the consumer! when i give music away, it's not costing me anything (in the sense that, i would be doing all this stuff with the band anyways -- rehearsing, recording, playing live), and it's making me a lot more in the long run than to just expect people who've never heard of us to buy our album -- because when they don't, and then they don't come to our shows, they don't buy our stuff -- that [i]is[/i] costing me money. see? sadly most of the industry is still set in their old ways -- luckily however a select few artists and labels are embracing the next generation, whether it's by providing free downloads or simply by just remembering that it's the fans that make your art worth anything at all!

speaker diameter doesn't make a difference, pair it with the Vintage!

for some reason, i find it really easy to sing and play the guitar at the same time, but tough to sing and play the bass. go figure.

[quote name='ARGH' post='465416' date='Apr 17 2009, 07:30 PM']I sometimes feel happy that labels are dying.......[/quote] me too, if they were. they're not though, and the people that complain the loudest are the ones who are losing the least (usually nothing at all)! is it [i]really[/i] any wonder why so many artists start the own label and/or find another way to do it on their own?

just had something in channel 4 news about this internet piracy thing....guy from the record company made the industry look [i]real[/i] good... when will they learn?

[quote name='escholl' post='465207' date='Apr 17 2009, 04:28 PM']to be honest, i think the whole transformer thing is ridiculous. the best output xformers will have little or no effect on the tone -- the "tube" sound comes from the way they tend to have harmonic distortion at different harmonics to transistors (you know this already though). tube amps have output transformers because the have to -- it just goes to show what happens when someone who hasn't studied engineering designs something. having said that, i'm sure it's a lovely amp! if it works, it works. [/quote] i just want to add to this that output xformers distort signals in the time domain as well as the frequency domain (it's inevitable) -- so reading on the site where it says "[using transformers in the output section] is done to achieve the warmth and presence of a tube amp while maintaining the clarity and fast attack of a solid state design" it was a case of palm-->face for me. other than that though, everything he says about the amp design is spot on.

[quote name='voxpop' post='465221' date='Apr 17 2009, 04:50 PM']Its 15KG without the rack case...............not to bad.[/quote] that's not bad at all, is that the pre and power together?

[quote name='alexclaber' post='465152' date='Apr 17 2009, 03:43 PM']I'm unfamiliar with the effects of output transformers on tone - I'm just aware that if they're not large enough they can form a bottleneck due to the magnetic fields from the two coils failing to couple fully at high power - and that with the high output impedance of a valve amp you have to have an output transformer to shift over to the low voltage high current drive that a speaker needs. But when you have a solidstate power stage you already have the right output impedance so Jonas must prefer what an output transformer does to the tone. I notice the amps are relatively low power (compared to other standalone power amps, they're not much different to typical bass heads) and thus wonder if he likes the sound of a transformer coupled solidstate power amp running beyond its linear zone? Alex[/quote] to be honest, i think the whole transformer thing is ridiculous. the best output xformers will have little or no effect on the tone -- the "tube" sound comes from the way they tend to have harmonic distortion at different harmonics to transistors (you know this already though). tube amps have output transformers because the have to -- it just goes to show what happens when someone who hasn't studied engineering designs something. having said that, i'm sure it's a lovely amp! if it works, it works.

[quote name='51m0n' post='464786' date='Apr 17 2009, 10:49 AM']Was/is really brought on by being lazy about stretching (including back/shoulders/neck all your upper body, arms, forearms, fingers) lightly but thoroughly (full 15 seconds per stretch twice). Followed by some gentle warm ups. Lastly if you use a computer or something similar then check out your posture during use, this can really cause issues since any tension/strain gained during the day job only makes things worse when you pick up the bass.[/quote] big +1 to both of those -- my issues were brought about by the computer usage, and as i mentioned -- stretching/massaging helps!

[quote name='jmstone' post='464940' date='Apr 17 2009, 01:01 PM']One interesting model I heard of, which apparently worked for one band, was making all their tracks free downloads at low bitrate mp3 quality, but to get the "proper" versions (either high bitrate mp3, maybe flac or even CD), people had to pay...[/quote] that is exactly the kind of attitude i support, and one that the industry needs to recognize. artists need to be put back in touch with how important their fans really are!

[quote name='Skybone' post='464899' date='Apr 17 2009, 12:27 PM']Unfortunately, most of us out there have to get jobs, so that we can not only support our families, but also to simply carry on doing something that we all love doing, making music.[/quote] anyone who's in the originals scene just to make money is doing it for all the wrong reasons anyways. but if you're not in it to make money but just to do something you love, why are you so concerned about making money anyways? surely it's more important to you that your music should bring happiness into other peoples lives? it is to me, at least. this is a decade old argument now but it's my firm belief that free downloads have not hurt the industry -- it's just given them an excuse to whine about it because they're too stubborn to change their ways. they had it so good for so long, and now the power has been put back in the hands of the audience they don't like it. as far as the prices paid for an all day festival, well, that's nothing to do with the internet, is it? the fact is, if your music is freely available, more people will listen to it. and the more people that listen to it, the more people who will see you live. and want to buy your cd. and your stuff.

[quote name='Skybone' post='464807' date='Apr 17 2009, 11:03 AM']Home taping didn't kill the music industry, but free downloads of MP3's is certainly sounding the death knell.[/quote] Sorry, but none of what you've just said is true. It's the same line the industry has been whining about for years -- the fact is they brought it on themselves by refusing to embrace the new technology, refusing to consider new licensing options, and charging 15.99 for a CD that has maybe a few good tracks on it? Independent stores went out of business undoubtedly in part because of places like Play and Amazon -- it's a shame, yes. What artists and the industry have to realize, and many are, is that they have to completely bring the fans back into it -- which they seem to have lost sight of for a while. You want me to see you live? Then make it worth my while, and don't charge some absurd price. Want me to buy the CD? Give me a reason -- because the reason I and many others buy CD's is not for the music, it's the whole package -- music, album art, any extras, etc. Not like most artists make a whole lot from every CD sold anyways, if you really want to support a band, see them live and buy a shirt -- they'll make much more that way. Personally, I would rather spread my music around for free digitally, get a fan base out there by using the internet, and rely on them and their appreciation of me to support me by buying CD's and seeing me live. That is pretty much the way of the future, and the sooner the industry recognizes that, the better off they'll be.

nope, you should be fine using it how you've said. provided you're in a good room, it should sound fantastic. if the room is poor (acoustically), then the results might not be as great. alternatively, if you really like the sound of the room, you could try using it as the S mic and try MS on the cab.

all of the above, bloody foreigners, nationals service, stealth taxes, labour lining their pockets, nanny state, etc, etc...

[quote name='jmstone' post='464644' date='Apr 17 2009, 07:36 AM']Bands haven't got better or worse per say, just different.. but it's so personal.[/quote] +1, what i've been trying to say the entire thread. one man's trash and all that...

[quote name='AM1' post='464589' date='Apr 17 2009, 12:11 AM']Tell me more, young Jedi![/quote] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=17960&hl=string+cleaning"]here[/url], and [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=41078&hl=string+cleaning"]here[/url]. hope it helps -- supposed to be much much more effective, and better for the strings.

[quote name='AM1' post='464569' date='Apr 16 2009, 11:48 PM']Yeah, you're not kidding. In the true spirit of being an utter cheapskate, I think I'll have to resort to a bit of string boiling![/quote] don't boil use meths!!

[quote name='AM1' post='464452' date='Apr 16 2009, 09:48 PM']A damned annoying one as I've just got a book of slinky basslines and I'm *itching* to pick up my bass. I have managed to resist the temptation so far....but I may not hold out much longer![/quote] haha ^_^ just wondering as i had something similar only on my right side and running down to my pinkie, not my index finger -- i don't know what it was but it was very very painful and wouldn't go away. luckily in my case it wasn't related to my bass playing though. i found loosening the tension in my muscles by massaging them would help though, maybe some sort of hand stretching sort of thing before you play might help you out?

what kind of pain is it? dull, sharp, shooting, etc, etc

[quote name='dannybuoy' post='464198' date='Apr 16 2009, 05:41 PM'][url="http://www.johnnyshredfreak.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=12&zenid=21c221c66f5ec943bf956ab2830ef2f9"]Also the Johnnyshredfreak![/url][/quote] that would be the one i'd recommend.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='461588' date='Apr 13 2009, 09:30 PM']Again, what space conditions? To what degree of tolerance -10, -6, -3dB? I've seen a measured plot for a 410XLT which shows that it's response is only +/-2dB within an octave at max yet they claim +/-2dB to higher and lower frequencies than their cab manages even -10dB.[/quote] perhaps they used some very generous octave or half-octave smoothing? [quote name='alexclaber' post='462425' date='Apr 14 2009, 07:42 PM']What do you make of the truthful values I listed a few posts up?[/quote] seem normal enough to me, i learned a long time ago not to buy cabs based off the specs anyways. half the manufacturers (and that's being kind) haven't got a clue really, and acoustics is one of those things which is so specific and finicky that the specs tend to be a bit meaningless anyways. i find your system to be quite helpful really, as it's an easier way to compare your cabs to the mainstream -- of course, i take it at face value that your comparisons are accurate congrats on your new forum by the way

[quote name='charic' post='463746' date='Apr 16 2009, 10:41 AM']Never got off the horse AM1 been in various projects recently that have just bugged the hell out of me so i left. Well I remembered I knew a fairly good vocalist so hes auditioning on tuesday which should be interesting. I'll podcast him and we can have a basschat xfactorr lol! Ive already got a couple of drummers banging at my door so to speak so thats not too bad. Its just nice to be in a band thats writing my own music . Oh if you want a listen then very very rough copies are on www.myspace.com/bandtheascent thanks for all the advice ppl. I may make a compilation of sites and see if I can get it stickied at some point[/quote] hey dude get in touch with Phil as well, he might be interested as aeterna will probably split up when myself and the guitarist move to Manchester at the end of July. His drumming has come on a long way in the last year as well, i can personally say i'm very happy with it :]