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[quote name='Myke' timestamp='1376481433' post='2174482'] Ah Well she looks lovely and so does the pickguard [/quote] Thank you! I'll pass on your compliment to Mary

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1376478863' post='2174408'] [pedant] Have you a source for that statement, please..? I think I understand your objection, but upon checking various references (dictionnaries, mostly...) I would take the word to be applicable to any sensory experience, especially artforms, therefore including music, sentiments and emotions. Maybe I'm wrong..? ([i]It wouldn't be the first time, nor the last[/i]... ). No malice intended. [/pedant] [/quote] You are correct.

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1376476783' post='2174364'] Yes, Nigel, I agree with the exception that the word "aesthetic" means "in relation to the visual sense" so I think most folk are missing your point. If you mean "vision/target" it makes perfect sense. No offence intended to anyone [/quote] Good point mate, thanks. I mean it aesthetic as per it's general definition .. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetics"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetics[/url] [b]Aesthetics[/b] ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#Simplification_of_ae_and_oe"]also spelled[/url] [b]æsthetics[/b]) is a branch of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy"]philosophy[/url] dealing with the nature of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art"]art[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty"]beauty[/url], and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste_(sociology)"]taste[/url], with the creation and appreciation of beauty.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetics#cite_note-1"][1][/url][/sup][sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetics#cite_note-2"][2][/url][/sup] It is more scientifically defined as the study of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senses"]sensory[/url] or sensori-emotional values, sometimes called [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment"]judgments[/url] of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeling"]sentiment[/url] and taste.[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetics#cite_note-3"][3][/url][/sup] More broadly, scholars in the field define aesthetics as "critical reflection on art, culture and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature"]nature[/url]."[sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetics#cite_note-4"][4][/url][/sup][sup][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesthetics#cite_note-5"][5][/url][/sup] More specific aesthetic theory, often with practical implications, relating to a particular branch of the arts is divided into areas of aesthetics such as art theory, [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_theory"]literary theory[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_theory"]film theory[/url] and [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_theory"]music theory[/url].

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1376474640' post='2174330'] The only true judge is your audience. Unfortunately [/quote] I don't agree, audiences don't know sh*t. They only know what they like. Stravinsky's Rite of Spring was met with a riot on its premier, so what the f*** did the audience know? Achieving happy levels of musical ability is a nebulous concept, the more you know the more you find there is to know, and hopefully WANT to know. It's about being true to yourself. Of course there are many musicians who are very happy with what they do, even if it's rudimentary. They are making music that makes them happy and that's really the only goal isn't it?

[quote name='funkypenguin' timestamp='1376473941' post='2174316'] I listen to bass players (and other musicians) that inspire me, and every time i realise i still have an awful lot to learn... [/quote] But that's the real question isn't it, how do you know WHAT you need to learn, and WHY you need to learn it? Unless you already know a LOT, it's almost impossible to know what you need to learn and why you need to learn it, and what your expetations are of that learning.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1376439190' post='2174106'] Yes, Nigel; now, go and lie down, there's a good lad. No, just the shoes. You can keep your socks on. We wouldn't want your feet to catch a chill, now would we..? I'll leave the door ajar, and we won't be far away. Close your eyes and think of nice things... That's fine... (Shhhh.....) [/quote] Yeah, did that, now what?

[quote name='Myke' timestamp='1376440042' post='2174111'] Awww, what happened to the cats eye? [/quote] It's a birth defect mate, it doesn't bother her though

You can't assess your 'level'. It's relative to your own perception of 'levels', and I bet 95% of musicians don't even know what they want to do, or are capable of, without progressing to the next 'level'. Which then propels you into a brief moment of understanding followed by a realisation that you can only relate your current 'level' to your previous 'level'. It's personal, and you need to understand what you want to be able to do, and that will probably keep evolving. Most people don't understand their own motives and potential so it's largely impossible to assess your 'level' in a useful way. Just assume you can always improve and get closer to your current aesthetic, but understand your aesthetic will evolve and change over time, and that you should possibly get a good tutor who understands you if you find you can't seem to achieve your current aesthetic. Does that make sense?

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1376397875' post='2173296'] This is great! Thanks Si, and equally thanks to Nige and Kit for donating the stems - very cool I'm going to struggle to do this one - work is crazy for me at the moment (mid-August to mid-September is a total wipeout), but I'll do my damndest to have a go at it. Be a real shame not to. Failing that I may revisit these stems at a later date with a cheeky remix or some such... Anyway, I heartily recommend that anyone interested has a crack at this one. It's a fantastic track and a good opportunity to work with some proper material, so go for it! [/quote] I'm fascinated to hear the results of peoples' mixes, I'm sure Si, and Kit and the band are too I hope you get time to give it a go mate. And thanks for the very nice compliments!

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1376395608' post='2173239'] A show bass with flaws in the the final build? A ridiculous state of affairs. A show is a place where you should be going, "Look at me! See how good I am." not knocking something out on the quick, which the bass on TB looks like. For a guy who apparently loves what he does, and charges a large wodge of cah for it, he seems to have an odd take on how things are supposed to be done. Business is business and given the current debacle, plus this nugget of info, JC needs to take a course in how to run a manufacturing and service company. [/quote] I completely agree. You build a substandard bass and take it to a show??!! And then sell it for FIVE f***ing GRAND??!! Where the f*** did he find THAT business model? There was small a guitar company I read about in Guitarist probably 8 years ago, can't remember the name, but they looked good and unusual. I tried one in a shop and it was glorious! It felt superb to play and sounded lovely. But it wasn't the shape and colour I wanted and they were about a grand. So I visited their stand at a guitar show in Olympia. They had a display guitar at the front of their stand. The strings were all to cock having a mis-aligned bridge. Looked like a typical 1970s 3-bolt Fender Jazz with the strings hanging off one side of the neck. I had a look around the stand but I was disturbed by this and didn't play any of the guitars. I thought of pointing it out but thought better of it. I visited a shop in Denmark Street a couple of months later that had a whole bunch of them (I'd forgotten about this brand by this time), I played one but it was dirty and the strings were old and dead and corroding. That was the end of that. I've had a whole bunch of guitars since then and I've ended up with a Deluxe USA Strat which I love. Builders who don't pay attention to their own business lose a lot of business. Fender and Gibson will mop up for them even thought their QC is often highly suspect.

[quote name='The Bass Doc' timestamp='1376393535' post='2173182'] No problem in making a left-handed version of a Jazz guard - I'll just need to use a mirror when doing it [/quote] Does making a reverse mirror PG send you back in time? Uncle, if you give me your email address, and as long as you don't mind it being public, I will post the pics and sh*t on Talkbass, you might get some orders for them from there. I beleieve there was some interest in them from when I was searching. Let me know.

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1376393298' post='2173170'] Cheers Nige! I knew this was the one about pants [/quote] Yes, it one of the less saucy ones

Si, I hope you don't mind me posting the copyright and credits so I don't get in trouble Also, the lyrics if they help. Released 10 October 2011 Song and lyrics (c) Copyright Kit Richardson 2011 Written, arranged and produced by Kit Richardson except; drums by Oli Dacombe; guitar by Sam Simon-Norris (and very occasionally Kit); bass by Nigel Dale. Violins played by Emma Blanco and Jessie May-Smart. Recorded at The Music Complex Depford by Chris, and Unit 2 Studios by Adie. Mixed, mastered and magic'd about by Simon Naish. [b]YOU LOOK SO GOOD TONIGHT[/b] You look so good tonight I forgot to breathe You look so good tonight Keep your hands at your sides Did you leave something on I can feel something burn At six o'clock I thought At six o'clock I thought of your face I got my fingers caught My fingers caught in my knicker lace Something's not right tonight Some consolation Something's not right tonight You're a man, you're Not a child Not destroying a star You're destroying a constellation You're weaker than I thought You're weak and I'm starting to shake I haven't got an eraser In case we make a mistake Tomorrow you'll wake With head and heart ache Lungs right out of air Breathe in the breath that I forget to take In your big grey eyes I can see the wires You got bored of nice Your striking matches don't set me on fire Higher, higher, higher .. Lyrics and music (c) copyright Kit Richardson 2011

Done. Best of luck, please post your findings.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1376334845' post='2172409'] It certainly does, and I've ordered one from TBD for my BD Custom P. Pics to come. [/quote] Excellent!

[quote name='risingson' timestamp='1376144502' post='2170203'] Looks great, and I'm not usually into the anodised look at all. I think the white pickup covers and vol/tone knobs go nicely. [/quote] [quote name='paul h' timestamp='1376200514' post='2170680'] That. Looks. Awesome. [/quote] [quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1376208774' post='2170727'] Couldn't resist the shinny shinny Cool. [/quote] Thanks fellas, I think it looks wicked

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1376253453' post='2171436'] Apology accepted, and a low bow for your sportsmanship. Many thanks, much appreciated. No, It's not quite the text that I had captured , so I'm glad I asked. PS: Sounds like 'With head and heartache' to me ([i]but then again[/i]...) [/quote] You're right! headache and heartache. Nowt wrong with your ears is there! Interpret that line in a way that makes you happy

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1376247119' post='2171313'] [i]Sounds of faster foot tapping, less rhythmically.[/i].. [/quote] Sorry old bean, had a table booked for dinner, see above Couldn't get one word, sounds like hadn't or haven't but you'll get the gist.

You look so good tonight I forgot to breathe You look so good tonight Keep your hands at your sides Did you leave something on I can feel something burn At six o'clock I thought At six o'clock I thought of your face I got my fingers caught My fingers caught in my knicker lace Something's not right tonight Some consolation Something's not right tonight You're a man, you're Not a child Not destroying a star You're destroying a constellation You're weaker than I thought You're weak and I'm starting to shake I haven't got an eraser In case we make a mistake Tomorrow you'll wake With head and heart ache Lungs right out of air Breathe in the breath that I forget to take In your big grey eyes I can see the wires You got bored of nice Your striking matches don't set me on fire Higher, higher, higher .. Lyrics and music copyright Kit Richardson 2011

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1376242502' post='2171222'] Glad for you, old son, glad for you. Meanwhile, my old cloth ears can't pick up the subtleties behind the vocal gymnastics, and it's a bit frustrating. Old age is the problem, not the performance, or the recording. We'll discuss again in 30years time, perhaps. I'll repeat the request, whilst thanking you for the suggestion. I think the modern expression would be "My bad...". [/quote]Gimme 15 mins.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1376225496' post='2170954'] Any chance of getting the lyrics at all..? I'm sure I'm missing part of the 'feel' of the song for not being able to catch it all, and it would help (me, at least...) better interpret what's required. Can it be done, please..? Pretty please..? [/quote] Hello dad. If you solo the lead vocal track the lyrics are very easy to hear mate.

I usually write and record my lines at home rather than in the studio. I get sent rough mixes with no bass obviously. I usually play it in headphones quite loud and sometimes dance a bit if it's a groovy kinda beat. In my head I'm singing along to it and often out of that a bass line will emerge, I repeat the process and I'm looking for drum and vocal stuff that I can augment or accent, and also thinking about the same for the chords in terms of some cool harmony opportunities that don't sound twee or tacky. Another way is just playing along to the music but more like a guitarist, lots of notes and rhythmic patterns and accents, just having a laugh. After a while I'll start repeating the things I like and chisel away until the bass line essence is sculpted. We decided to do a cover in the rehearsal the other week, a weird version of Megalomaniac by Incubus. Straightaway hearing her arrangement I knew it needed texture rather than a bass line. I made a patch on the POD with high compression, flanger and loads of quick bright plate reverb and delay. I swelled the volume pedal into root octaves on the three chords, then changed the root to the fourth, and on the last pattern I hit a minor 11th (I think ) on the last chord and it all sounded glorious, bandleader loved it. Wrote it on pure instinct on the spot and I love it. That doesn't happen often. I think if you have some confidence, and play what you get off on, that's a good start, but I'd advocate being as versatile as possible so you can take direction from the producer or artist quickly and easily. EDIT: I'm not a pro but I play for some pro artists.

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1376147288' post='2170245'] It absorbs all sense of taste, tone and musicality before it comes out of the guitar..... [/quote] I agree, very clever but I find it deeply unmoving, almost a pointless exercise.

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1376140795' post='2170145'] Looks like another 1st class job from Uncle H. That's a damn fine looking pair now Nige Cheerz, John [/quote] Thanks John I much prefer the all in one PG than the separate control plate look on the Jazz.