Al Krow

Just came across this, which might be of interest: The Best Compact Analog Mixers for your Studio Flattering to discover two of the desks I've had over the years on the list (Allen & Heath and Soundcraft)!

So in answer to your question with regard to filters... I've now been using the GT Core for a week and getting my head around it's various features and possibilities. The EBS IQ filter pedal I've currently got on my board (pictured above) is one of the very best analogue filters I've come across - almost on a par with 3Leaf filters I've had the privelege of owning, and considerably less expensive. I've set up a filter patch on the Core, [using the Touch Wah fx in band-pass filter mode - in case of wider interest] which gives me the choice of up or down filter. I've also included an octaver, but just with the up-filter, to thicken up the sound. Really like what I'm hearing on both up-sweep and down-sweep. And the excellent EBS... well that's just been taken off my board and will likely be appearing in the for-sale section in due course 😊

The BB P35 is a superb passive bass! Great tone and playability. Loved mine - wished it had been a touch lighter for my aging frame and it would have been a keeper!

Fishman Powerchord FX Patch One of the things we've been figuring out in my covers band is how to fill out the sound when the rhythm guitarist switches to doing a solo and we lose both vox and rhythm guitar and just have bass and drums underneath. It can feel a little empty! I've been thinking along the lines of a Fishman Powerchord sim on bass. I actually briefly owned the original pedal a few yeas back but found it a little too glitchy for my liking. Pitch shift seems to be a significant challenge for most multifx to do well and my Zoom B1-4 could only produce a mushy mess! I guess this is where the serious DSP firepower in the GT 1000 / Core comes into its own. I've created a little patch with a parallel signal path for: Basic setting: Pitchshift sim +7 (i.e. adding a fifth) Ctrl1 1 --> adds in Overtone sim with a modest lashing of octave up On the common path, additional options to kick in: Ctrl2 --> Chorus Ctrl3 --> Cry Wah which tightens up the EQ making it more punchy / less bassy (but also less warm) Loving the lack of latency and tightness of tracking on this patch and IMO this actually improves on the old Fishman pedal quite a bit.

@SumOne now you've had had a play with the GX10 for a while, was it the right decision to "trade down" (the colour touch screen is definitely an upgrade!)? Just wondering whether a combination of Core + Expression Pedal might have been potentially as good / possibly better? Having said that, I'm obviously delighted you decided to drop muggins here a DM,wondering if I might be willing to take your mint Core off you for a good price 😂

Wish you all the best Dave - I've really enjoyed your "How was your gig last night posts" over the years, and you were always very generous in your comments to the rest of us on there. If you can manage to part company on good terms and avoid burning bridges, so much the better. Who knows where things may end? If, as you say, you're a perfectionist, you're likely to be delivering to a high standard and have been doing for many years. Goodness knows if they will find someone as good as you to fill your boots!

Old pedal board: Current iteration: The GT 1000 Core is a considerable step up over my long term love-affair with the Zoom B1-4, which has been an amazingly good value workhorse budget mulitfx, and has been at the core of my board for several years. I was very pleasantly surprised to find that, unlike the B1-4, the Core does a great job at providing a very usable drive/fuzz which I'm liking a lot and also an octave up/down capability that is easily as good as the excellent Boss OC-5, and which I can access different settings as presets e.g. starting with just octave down and adding in an octave up to further fill out the sound, rather than needing to manually adjust during/between set list numbers. Had its first gig outing on Saturday with just a few basic patches set up and performed just fine, so I'm looking forward to getting to grips with it via the easy to use Boss Tone Studio PC Editor over the coming months and refining my current patches and creating some additional gigable ones as well as some fun ones for home use. For some reason I never really bonded with either the HX Stomp or Effects, which I know a great many BC'ers love, despite several attempts! So it's great to find an alternative and equivalently capable mid-range multifx (but with a much more recent and more powerful chipset) that has been so quick and easy to take a shine to. I suspect it's going to mean a clear-out of a bunch of my pedals e.g. I have managed to accumulate half a dozen drive/fuzz pedals in my quest for that elusive drive tone...only to find one I really liked within a day or so of auditioning the factory presets on the Core!

Thanks for that - you and @MrDinsdale have both mentioned using slicers! Must admit that's not an fx I've previously paid any attention to. How have you both been making of use of it with bass? Does it do quite a lot more than a delay fx?

Aha ok that makes complete sense, thanks. You've pretty much done the equivalent of my Zoom B1-4-> GT1000 Core upgrade, by upgrading your Core to the high end QC. Not sure multifx get much better than that one currently? I will be holding onto one of my two Zoom B1-4s for the foreseeable, not least 'cos it has a very usable drum kit for home practice, and its tuner is more sensitive to the low B open than the Core's (I've got a workaround by tuning to the B on the 12th fret, or I could equally do an E on the 5th fret of the low B string). Actually that's not correct, just needed to switch on 'Bass mode' in the Master block for each patch and then it reads the low B string easily. Ideally there would be a global setting for this, but it's literally a 10 second job to engage bass mode on each patch so no biggie. So if you're missing having a pedal board friendly Core then maybe the same logic, albeit one level up, applies? 😊

Sounds like you delved pretty deeply into its capabilities. Why did you choose to move yours on? Any particular limitations or issues?

Not found a decent synth patch on it or Tone Central yet...but tbf I've not looked particularly hard, as I have a SY200 sitting next to it on my (significantly simplified!) little pedal board. Jury is still out on filter in particular whether my EBS IQ is sufficiently better than the up/down sweep patch I've put together, for an audience to notice.

Per discussion with @SumOne we both previously saying that we found that multifx were often much less good at filter, synth, octaver and fuzz than standalone pedals. The GT 1000 Core, to my very pleasant surprise, has made both my fuzz pedals and Boss OC5 octaver redundant because I'm finding it at least as good, if not better, on both counts. Was very straightforward to incorporate a cheap as chips Mosky dual switch with a TRS cable to get two additional footswitches with ability to assign to different parameters. There's scope for a second dual switch or alternatively an expression pedal down the line should the need arise.

Nice bass tone Dan - particularly stood out at the start of your final song Hives! Great to put a face to a name!

If you are gigging, it's worth noting that Zoom have designed the software on the 60B+ so that the patch name doesn't stay displayed but it defaults to one of the fx in the chain. This, plus lack of PC editing ability available on earlier Zoom models, were deal breakers for me and a few others on this thread.

Yeah, a lot of folk talk about wanting to tweak stuff live. But being competely honest, I don't have headspace for thinking about that during a gig - too much else going on! Definitely prefer to get to something that sounds decently good, based on prior experience, at home and then make a mental note of any adjustments (eg drive not cutting through the mix or whatever) during a live performance. I do love ability to preset on multifx, it's one less thing to think about and no worries about dials getting knocked etc. But then again I'm on PA & desk lead for my band - I guess if someone else is dealing with that then you're freed up to focus on "just" being the bass player, which would be grand! IMO, most things that are EQ related can be dealt with via a decent desk, and perfecting flavours of tone are nice to have, but not what a good band performance hinges on?

Fraction of the size of a B1-4 for starters. Not aware of any that look as good on paper as this one for the money and compact enclosure? I suspect it may well sound better than the B1-4, too, but I'd need to A/B it to find out and tbf no particular rush for me to do that as I've got my work cut out for a while getting up to speed with my Boss multi 😅 Greg's suggestion of it providing a back up is a neat one, though.

That's not a bad thought! It's not going to take up any space and as back-up can potentially cover off a full pedal board!

Valeton GP-5 - announced at NAMM 2025: super compact multi fx for £79! 100 effects Supports loading 3rd-party cabinet IRs, max 20 stored Supports latest Neural Amp Modelling (NAM), with 50 curated files, max 80 stored 100 patch slots (50 factory patches) Up to 9 modules able to work simultaneously, with the order of some modules being customizable Built-in chromatic tuner

Boss GT-1000CORE Multi-Effects Guitar Processor - Black for sale online | eBay: Not sure how long this one will be knocking around for, but that's a good price for one of these, and seller describes it as being in 'mint' condition. [Update - sold overnight, not surprised!] First patch created - added a clean blend to the drive sound I took a shine to, using the easy to use parallel path routing. Nothing comparable to this on my little Zoom B1-4, and starting to look like my personal Zoom multifx era could finally be coming to an end! Also need to explore what bespoke patches folk have created and shared for bass on Tone Central. Hopefully some good preamps that I can filch!

You're welcome! Tbf the journey, including some of the dead ends, has been part of the fun - all helped by sourcing kit used from BC or elsewhere, which makes "mistakes" not expensive in the financial sense. Unfortunately you don't see too many of the Boss multifx's coming up for sale used, maybe because fewer people are buying them and those that do are holding on to them. I run my pedal board straight into the PA and we use IEMs for monitoring. Look forward to hearing how you get on!

My own experience fwiw: Current: Zoom B1-4 - been gigging this for several years and has been a core pedal (and great tuner!) at the heart of my little pedal board. Can be a little noisy and need to regularly use the noise reduction fx on patches which can make the bass tone feel less 'open' / more blanketed, but not particularly noticeable in a band mix GT1000 Core - new to me and currently putting it through it's paces. Liking it a lot so far and it's getting to places (e.g. a quality dirt/fuzz for bass) that the Zoom never quite reached Previous: Zoom MS60B - much loved by many since its launch in 2013 Zoom B3N - decent --> I replaced with the much more compact Zoom B1-4 Zoom MS60B+ was looking forward to this one, coming out last year a full decade after the 60B. Disappointed that Zoom have designed the software so that the patch name doesn't stay displayed but it defaults to one of the fx in the chain, which makes it much less user/gig friendly for me. This plus lack of PC editing ability, available on the above Zoom earlier models, were deal breakers for me. Shame. Helix HX Effects and Stomp. Tried several times to bond with these, but for whatever reason didn't manage to. I've found several of the guitarists I've worked with getting quite a harsh tone when going straight into the PA with their Stomps (unlike the GT1000 Core). A few guitarists on YT seem to have managed to crack by focussing hard on the EQ. Huge bass-playing fanbase on BC and elsewhere and the Helix software fx is unmatched IMO and regularly updated. Hardware getting a little long in the tooth now: 10 y/o chipset. Hope that's useful!

I sold my GT 1000 Core to our band's guitarist a year ago not really having touched it myself. He's put it to really good use and easily managed to avoid the harshness of tone that guitarists I've worked with can struggle with some multifx pedals (notably the Helix Stomp until they've really got their head around the EQ on that pedal). However, I managed to get hold of another Core (from my usual BC source, haha) a little while back and finally had a bit of head space to load up the PC Editor, which is pretty easy to use, and spend a bit of time with the pedal. First impressions are very positive! Just picking up on a couple of comments made on another thread recently: I seem to have amassed quite a collection of dirt/fuzz pedals which I was going to spend some time A/B'ing. Not sure I will bother now - I found a drive sound on one of the preset patches (#226 "Classic Rocker") which I think is going to work really well in the mix. Not something I ever managed to get close to with my Zoom B1-4! The octave capability doesn't seem noticeably worse than the excellent Boss OC-5, and I think certainly usable live, to thicken out the sound. And it has a decent up and down filter patch, although not on a par with the best dedicated pedals, so my EBS will be not be getting booted off my little gigging board just yet! Really liking the #12 Clean & AG Mix patch - which has quite an upright bass feel to the sound. Very much looking forward to creating some bespoke patches over the coming weeks.

Nige bought my Future Impact v4. Great comms and immediate payment. Hope you enjoy the pedal!