Al Krow

Hey Gav this short clip will give you a feel for what the pedal can do:

Agreed - not a fan of tokenism. But it's a little shocking what a disparity there is in the number of top male and female pop and rock (and jazz?) instrumentalists generally, not just on bass. It's not like the ladies aren't into pop and rock music! Obviously the same doesn't apply to vocalists where it's gotta be much closer to 50:50. And completely different again in the classical music realm where there are a ton of great musicians from both sexes.

They wouldn't be in my top 10 (only Carol Kaye would feature at that very top end), but I'd certainly be cool with bumping a couple of the others further down the list to make way for this pair 😉

How about Tina Weymouth? And if we're going current Kinga Glyk.

One of these left on fleabay for £20 if folk are still after one.

Yeah - that Leeds seems to have a big fan club! RAT drives seem to be both great sounding and the worst for sucking out low end of any of the drives I've come across. I've got a RAT drive effect set up on my Zoom B14-X multi on my little pedal board, but I've put the Zoom in the parallel loop of a Boss LS2, so that I can blend in an equal amount of clean to preserve low end and authentic bass tone, which seems to combine well with the RAT drive. Recommend doing the same with your Caline at some point.

All the extras on the 1024x you've mentioned are definitely nice to haves (as is the better looking bridge piece on the 5 string versions). But for me the biggest difference in sound is down to the pups. The 424 pups carry a serious punch! Whereas the 1024's are more civilised and harmonically richer sounding. I really love my 1025, but enjoyed having my BB 425s (I sold the first one and regretted it, so replaced it with another which also ended up in the possession of a fellow BCer). Anyway you're right, white is best colour for Yammy BBs 😁

Great looking bass and welcome to both the BB club and to Basschat! Which other basses have you played before and how are you finding the 424 compares to them?

Interesting you say that: I've been mulling over whether I should hold onto my AS, which is effectively a drive multifx, given that I have a whole 'nother set of multi-drive options in my Helix. What I really do like about the AS is it's ability to retain low end and augment this with blending in clean, as required, with an easy to use dial rather than needing to think about introducing a parallel clean blend (which can be easily done with the Helix) but requires an LS2 or similar for other pedals. What's the low end suck out like on the Joyo?

Gotcha. And the point is the SY-1 does them both together better than any other synth pedal I've played (and I've now been through a fair few). It's light-years better on note & latency tracking than e.g. the SYB-5, its immediate predecessor, and means that when you're doing fast runs, this thing can keep up with you.

In common parlance must admit I use the term "tight tracking" to mean that it can follow the notes played without glitching or noticeable latency. So that we're on the same page, sounds like you're distinguishing accurate note tracking (pitch) from instantaneous tracking (latency), right?

Nice one! Clone of the Tech 21 Blonde with many folk liking the Joyo just as much or even more. Seen comments about lacklustre build quality, but for around £30 not sure anyone can complain!

The potentially most controversial aspect for me is that there are only two women on the list. Having said that, none of the "omissions" mentioned on the posts so far have been of female bass players, so maybe it's just a reflection of the state of play and nothing more?

Very nice. Could I guess that you are a fan of the BDDI by any chance? 😁

Yeah I get that the bass is going to be a fixed-ish weight around the 10lbs or so mark, including gig bag, that's not too bad though. Amps and cabs can be very heavy and a lot of us have deliberately gone for relatively light weight amps and cabs to keep the weight down, even if we have to compromise a bit on the sound with a D class amp. Or ditched amps and cabs altogether and gone FRFR. Smaller pedals also mean that you can get more effects onto a given pedal board. And the Valeton OC-10 new is less than half the price of a used OC-2, sounds incredibly close to it, is built like a tank and takes up half the pedal board estate. What's not to like?

Well that's going to be a slap in the face for many folk! 😁

Agreed. For me the polyphony and great tracking / lack of glitching combine together, so the pedal can easily work with your playing style rather than forcing you to change your technique so that it can cope. Means you can play naturally rather than needing to go for a more staccato approach.

Well you weren't going to get any debate on electronic stuff from me matey! Your ability to use your Helix LT to be a rock god, well now that's a whole 'nother matter 😁

Right - time knock this debate on the head. The Boss SY-1 is a cut down non programmable version of the Boss SY-300: "The SY-1 transforms any guitar or bass into a versatile synthesizer that’s fun, inspiring, and ready to play. Backed by advanced tech first developed for the SY-300, this super-cool pedal delivers a huge selection of analog-style synth sounds while occupying minimal space on your board. What’s more, all the sounds are polyphonic, allowing you to play both single notes and chords." [Source: https://www.boss.info/uk/products/sy-1/ ] https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/boss-sy-300 polyphonic pitch extraction is dealt with in the section "Right On Track"

+1 ^^ I guess I was lucky in that I'm a bit partial to a vintage white bass and as it was also cheaper it was an easy decision! The other finish that I could definitely have gone for was the natural alder, but I've made my bed now...cue gratuitous pic of my P7 And great choice of bass btw - it has a more versatile EQ and generally holds itself up well against basses costing several times as much!

I note you have the LT from your previous post and that there's a ground lift switch on the back. Does that not help in relation to breaking the electrical earth connection?

Glad it arrived safely I've had more than one experience of things getting lost in the post when not sent by "signed for" delivery, which given the current shut down of local Post Offices means it can be a bit of a lottery.

Oh dear this doesn't sound good! And from what you're saying it seems to be classic non isolated PSU related noise. Is it only happening when you're using the Helix as an audio interface to your laptop / PC and not when in Helix Edit? Bit concerned by your comment that it occurs when "going direct or going through a standalone interface" i.e. are you finding this to still be the case if you're going via a separate interface (e.g. a Focusrite)? FWIW I've not noticed this with mine when going via my Focusrite into my PC but then I'm taking a DI output from my VT Bass DI which is at the end of my chain. However the Stomp already has a balanced output, I believe, and the LT has XLR outputs which I presume are also balanced, so it shouldn't be related to that. So maybe it's the Focusrite that is screening out the noise?

This delivers 200W RMS at 4 ohms / 130W RMS at 8 ohms, I believe. And I'm old fashioned in considering an RMS watt to be a RMS watt, assuming that they have been measured accurately and not deliberately understated or overstated. Whether this is going to be loud enough for your gigs must be very dependent on your band and set up. In my case I'm using a single 8 ohm cab, with a full rock band and typically no PA support and I like a bit of headroom in my amps so that I don't need to drive the amp too hard. So I like to have a min of 300W+ at 8 ohms on tap. (I've actually got 450W at 8 ohms which is more than ample). However @Deedee's experience is a better guide as he's put one through its paces.

Ah yes, you bought that lovely Xotic in the FS - I've seen your NBD post. That's a quick decision to jump from 4 to "permanently" 5 then! I seem to recall that Luke was heading in the opposite direction after his first foray into 5 strings. You've clearly taken to it like a duck to water!