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Combine this with guitarists with pedal tuners who faff around getting the guitar bang on ever song and you soon have a band that looks nervous on stage and this can make the gig hard work.

Yes perfect sense indeed, the neck holes were not threaded, they were drilled and power driven in, taking the bolts or screws out can leave the wood loose and when you replace them you can not get enough torque tension on them again to clamp the neck down to get a nice body to neck resconance. Some are ok, some deterioate with age and the more someone dogs about with it the worse it gets.

They are what was known as a pig rod, inserted body end and end capped at top, hope it does not have to come out, its a drilling job.

Taking the neck of is not the smartest move, getting the bolts to make that last bite might be difficult now on old wood, those that fix basses will know, that last little click makes the bass play, once you dog about with the necks on them, sometimes you can never get that grip back on the neck bolts. To be honest, I am smelling a rat here, the publicity surrounding this appears a "bit too obvious". I think someone is trying it on with an old dog of a JV and they were some old dogs, make no mistake, some just did not make it, like all basses. At £400 in this condition it is well beyond what I class as "top book price"

Do you need a two octave bass ? I have always felt that shorter basses have more growl on the bottom frets where you need it.

Pictures are better this time, looks a bit of a mess to be honest. I would rather pay a bit more for a nice one.

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1388928683' post='2327676'] Have a good look at a 60s or 70s Fender and you may wish that they had CNC capability back then. [/quote] They did not as they were not invented, but comparing them to other instruments of the time, they were comparable. It's more about the brand, where next Fender from Koesung North Korea ? There is always a market for the best, come on Fender !

I would rather see Fender take the brand back in house and only put the name Fender on it's best USA range. The squire brand is established enough to cover the Chinese. Japanese, mexican stuff. But churning ot basses from China with Fender on has devalued the brand. We have SQ basess that are better than starter Fenders and that should not be so. Fender was and should be a premium brand that commands respect, not something chopped out by a CNC machine in a country where they get executed for not been a slave.

Those Orange Terror things baffle me, they are just a box with knobs sticking out. absolute no protection for the controls or anything, a full flight case must be a requirmenent and I bet you have to be carefull putting it in that.

It was not for sale, it was for open auction and would have sold to the highest bidder, it was at £200 with a full day to go. An average Squire sells for £90, so those in the know, knew and were bidding accordingly. Where does dishonesty come in to it ?

Nobody was selling anything "cheap" it was on E-Bay in a bidding auction. Speaking of what is in spirit of the forum. I take it intefering in other members potentiol purchases when you clearly have no intention of purchasing it yourself is fine then ? The high bidder was on here and we were all looking foward to seeing the pics of it fixed up and polished and getting cherrished been played. Personally, I would not intefere with another members deal, if I do not want to buy the bass, then I am out and good luck to the auction winner, I hope they get a bargain. This apprently makes me the bad guy of the forum. Then so be it, but I would rather the member bidding had the JV bass than a collecter.

If your band is loud on stage and you stand close to the drummer who is doing his best to crack the cymballs, what often goes is your ears. Things sound muddy and dull and appear to get worse as you play on. Once you take the edge off your hearing it can take many hours to return, keep doing it and it never does. This might sound daft, but it can be the biggest cause of why does my bass sound dull all of a sudden.

I just fail to see why you would try to stop somone, that could have been a member on here enjoying a JV bass other than jealousy . It was on the worlds biggest auction site, was already well away with 24 hours to go. I dont really think the hundred or so watchers would be detered by one string missing. The bubble of £1500 JV basses burst long ago as people went and dug them out of the cupboard and loft and the missing hundreds appear to be getting found. It might have made £300- £350, a minter from here only made £400. If they come back to you wanting the £500 are you going to pay up ? The Member who was after it, you have my sympathy, but having a closer look, they might have done you a favour, it did look well beaten.

Thought it was a good point. last one in good nick made [b]£400[/b], what do you think a shop will offer them ? Nowhere near, then they are going to be thinking, h,mmm that guy said it was worth £500. I just hope he has his £500 ready and waiting.

It was at £200 with a day left. I would say letting it run would have been a very good day for them. Things that look wounded often sell far higher than good ones as everyone bails in thinking they can make a few quid and gets caught in auction fever. For all we know it could have a snapped rod or anything, they were pig rods loaded from the body end. It was well up anad away in the auction stakes and unless you were prepared to put your own hand in your own pocket and put your money where your mouth is, then why bother. I hope they contact you saying you can have it for £500 and it's a right pig of a mess. What you going to say then. Tar and feathers for you mate !

The white faced firebass 700 was American made, quite rare, but a very valve sounding power head, weighed about 3 tonnes and blows cabs if you get carried away. The input gain had the ability to go from clean to overdrive on the white fronted ones, hit that sweet spot and you had a very valve type sound. Only ever seen one, the later ones were just not the same IMO, the valve sound overdrive on the gain had gone...

Some of the squire silver basses are bodied from MDF , so examine what you buy. They play OK but once you take a screw out, it's not going back in ! They did do a Squire deluxe Precision in the Late 90's/ 00's with PJ pick ups and they were very well made with nice hot pick ups, they had the old 70's sweeping precision bass logo. These will be the next Squires to go up as they were very well made for a squire.

Lots of basses can scoop tones to create pleasent sounds, but when the band is playing, how much is heard in the mix of that super scopped tone. Very little is the answer, how much makes it out front through it is a better aim. With a precision, the tone is full on, unscooped like jazz basses and all of it appears to make it out, you can always here a precision in the band mix, plenty of bass, heavy mids and clean top. As live basses go, they are probally the ultmiate for gigging if you want to be heard. Dozens of basses sound better at home or playing solo, but there is a very good reason precisions are a stable gigging bass and that is they have the full fat, full on in your face tone.

As long as you dont mind carrying a back up, I ran various valve amps from Ampeg to marshall and you have to remember you are carrying a 60k+ box of glass, for gigging, regular failures are the norm. The marshall VBA 400 sounds great, but it eats transformers and once one goes they just follow on with one issue after another. A back up amp are mandatory, in the days of scooped mid clean amps like trace elliot, they were the only way to get a warm driven sound, but emulation effects and better transitor pre-amp stages and you would have all on to tell the difference. The main componant I found in the marshall set up was the 4x12 400w bass cab, now there is a bit of forgotton kit, punchy and stupid loud cab that hits the back of the room like no 4x10 ever will. A very long forgotton bass cab gem, the 4x12.

For me it was the Marshall VBA 400, once they "start" they start, transformers burn out, valve sockets crackle, you need to carry two of them just to get through a gig. They have loverly warm tone, like a peavey firebass 700 head, in fact soundwise almost identlcle just could not keep the damned things running.

Yes, thats the range I would pitch them at, they had a similar build quality, in those days, there were very few cheap instruments, they were about half the cost of a USA precision minius a case as well. They were brought out to answer the Tokai copies and pitched to match, they were very similar in construction as well. In those days £300 in todays money was a budget instrument, I remember paying £775 for a brand new cased USA precision with the Jap fender badged version pitched at £550, so at £129 even translated to todays money, they were a very cheap bass, the Ibanez blazer was £149 and £20 was £20 Now if we are talking rare, who has ever seen a USA Squire, they did make them !

They are a lot appearing, they were a £129 brand new in the box bass sold at most music shops. They got put in cupboards and forgotton about . They were reasonably well made on a par with the latest Squire deluxe range's. Someone decided they were ultra rare and the price rocketed, this has lead to people digging out the cheap beginers bass from the loft or back cupbaord and they are hitting the markets by the thousands and mugs are grabbing them thinking they are really worth £1000+ They are not and as they are hitting the market place in bulk now the word is out the price will fall back. They were the beginers Christmas bass of the day and they certainly sold in quite large numbers at the time, As folk who long gave up playing dig them out of lofts and closets, every one that hits the market knocks the price down as people work out that they are not as "rare" as first thought. I have had the odd one here and there, they play OK, but I would never dream of paying more than a nice USA Fender precision price for them. Like all bubbles, it will burst.

Yes, But it would only do it in memory mode, I found it frustartingly annoying live to the point the 708Mkii just works.

What I could not get on with was, I could have 3 stomp boxes or put it in memory mode, where it did not display the boxes, the only way to cycle up the stomp box displays was to bend down and use the up arrow buttons. I really like the idea of having multiple rows of 3 effects and scrolling up and down them, but it is either one mode or the other or bend down every song. That and every effect needed toning down and volumes evening out, in the end, I decided the the old 708 mk ii with its simple edit and store and just go up a tach was far better live to use. So i agree, it needs an urgent firmare upgrade to make it cycle the patches in stomp box mode from the footswitch. A loverly pedal, but just too hard to use live beyond the three stomp boxes you have down. Could have been great if they had just thought the display through more on the patch mode.

Some bright spark has told them it is worth £1500