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Although we're all bass biased I think you're right, and it must've been a massive leap to suddenly have a more portable, shorter scale, fretted bass that you could strap on a walk around whilst playing. Suddenly stuff that was virtually impossible on upright could be attempted with success on a fretted electric bass.

Although not disagreeing that there's a lot of drivel around these days, I think there's been a lot of drivel around since the beginning of music. Through the passage of time the drivel gets forgotten but it's always been there.

@TheLowDown The Kinks 'You Really Got Me' (slashed speaker) and The Stones 'Satisfaction' (Fuzz Tone pedal) were '64 &' 65 respectively as well, but they don't appear have been the first. Link Wray on 'Rumble' ('58) had poked holes in his speaker with a pencil to get distortion. Grady Martin used a damaged preamp to purposefully get a distorted sound on his 1961 track 'The Fuzz'. The Ventures then asked to recreate that sound and were given an early Fuzz box to record their 1962 track '2000 Pound Bee'. The Fuzz Tone (Stones' Satisfaction) was released in '62. It's all in the link I posted, and is quite interesting.

Love On A Mountain Top - Robert Knight

Dave Davies (The Kinks) often gets credited with the first distortion but apparently it had been going on for ages. Obviously overdriven valve amps distorted but there were people intentionally damaging amps, dislodging valves and putting holes in speakers to create distortion way before Dave Davies probably even picked up a guitar. So Overdrive and Distortion pedals were made as a result of the music being created already. I know it's Wikipedia but this is interesting.

No but I assume it was a result of the popularity of very early electronic bands like Kraftwerk. This is probably a very good point. Yes I recall Marshall basically building what The Who needed.

Yes, but what I'm wondering is were musicians pushing the builders for development or did the builders make what they thought would be good? Did some musicians make their own innovations which were picked up by builders, if so, who did what? Who influenced who?

Interesting. 😄

A comment in another thread got me thinking again about a topic which might make for some interesting discussion. The comment was by @Bilbo and was "The first electric basses were invented just at the point where Pop music started to become a thing." Which made me think which came first? Was the first bass designed because the music emerging at that time needed it, or was the 'new' music made because the new instrument made it possible? Throughout the years which has had the bigger influence on the other? For instance, did bands get louder because of PA developments, or did PAs develop because bands were using multiple amps to get more volume? Did effects develop because of bands creating effects like cutting speaker cones for distortion or phase effects caused by tape issues, and have effects changed how a band sounds or has how a band sounds changed effects? Then the electronics of the late 70s and 80s, was the explosion of early electronic music due to the tech, or the was explosion of tech due to the bands pioneering it? Then onto the modern computer age. Is modern music shaped by being able to be made by one person at home, or have people fallen out of love with full bands and pushed for equipment that allowed you to become a 'one man band'? So what do you think, has the tech been playing catch up to the latest bands, or have bands been playing catch up to the latest tech?

End Of The Road - Boyz II Men I can only apologise for that 😔

Yokohama-urry love - The Supremes 🤭

Under My Wheels - Alice Cooper

I don't know why, but wierdly I can reach further with my ring finger than my pinky, and as such use it far my than my pinky.

It's bad enough booking some venues as a five piece, but 10,000 Maniacs, how much space will they need?

I was too young for punk being born in '73 When I did work experience at 14 an older lad there lent me 'Now That's What I Call A F**kin Racket', much to my parents pleasure, especially as my mum quite liked Cliff Richard at the time. I loved it. Head Like A Hole - NIN Edit, that'll teach me to waffle on, it still works though.

But if they made a guitar from those 2x4 beams then they would become tonewood. I looked up oak as that should have the structural properties needed to make a solid body guitar. It does but it isn't normally used primarily because it's very heavy and hard, and not particularly pretty. But this is the silly bit, and the phrase that keeps cropping up, "It can be used as a tonewood".What do you mean "as a tonewood"? Is it a tonewood or not? Basically if it's made into a guitar then it's a tonewood, but if that same piece was made into a stool seat it remains just plain old oak. It's just a stupid, pretentious load of nonsense dreamt up to make a fairly mundane material appear somehow special.

By the tonewood label, if it's used to make an instrument then it's worthy of the tone prefix.

I'm sad/bored enough to have done a little research. It appears that any wood used to build a guitar is labelled a tonewood, regardless of any actual tonal properties it may, or may not, have. So as long as it is structurally capable of being used to make a guitar, it's a tonewood. It's as stupid as that. So when adverts/luthiers blither on about magical tonewoods then as long as they've built an instrument with it it's a tonewood, and by default means that every guitar or bass ever built from wood is built using a tonewood. So let's just call it wood. I also found out the best way to get spalting started in a wood is to pee on it and store in damp, humid conditions to let the bacterial growth develop. Mmmm 'Tonepiss'. 🙂

Anarchy in Woolworths - Chaotic Dischord

I Am The Law - Anthrax

This Charming Man - The Smiths

I can't remember now as I've had it (Boss app) so long, but I've a feeling I may have turned the sensitivity down a touch to stop it jumping about quite so much. Another one use for adjusting intonation at home which is very good, if a touch manic to look at is the 'Tuner Time' strobe app by Galexand. I find it very accurate for an app but nowhere near as simple as the Boss one.

Float On - The Floaters 💩

Can we have a whole band? Massive Attack up front.

I hadn't seen that tri line tape. That was kind of what I meant with the fine line tape, two strips 5mm apart and lacquer/nail varnish between them. The tri line will be even easier. The join line might not need sealing in at all, but if you do, try to peel the tape either side of your lacquer off while the lacquer is still wet. This will allow the edges to flow ever so slightly and leave a nice smooth edge rather than the sharp edge you get when left to dry first. Work out how you can pull the tape off in one easy action as you don't want to let it touch anywhere else with wet lacquer on it. It's not vital but just makes for a slightly nicer finish.