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[quote name='nick' post='177009' date='Apr 15 2008, 01:13 PM']Have you considered EHX Octave Multiplexer?[/quote] Yep, I've got one of those (and a micro synth and Korg G5, which would both do the job). Only it's not for me - a friend is being urged to get something suitable for a few songs to fill in for a recently departed keyboard player. And as I hinted at, he's looking to do it on the cheap. I might just suggest the Black Paisley, since nobody seems to have tried the Behringer and there's not really anything else that can be picked up on the cheap.

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That'd be cool Matty, thanks.

[quote name='tauzero' post='173891' date='Apr 10 2008, 01:32 PM']Note that anything marked "Terminal 5" will disappear and never be seen again. Ask Naomi Campbell.[/quote] EDIT: In fact to the quotes thread with you!

[quote name='BassManKev' post='175102' date='Apr 12 2008, 12:09 PM']if he's loaded, im selling one of the best analog octavers available... the behringer wil be terrible no doubt, OC-2 is the best way if you want it cheap the french toast is cool[/quote] Cheers Kev. Yeah he's loaded, but also very tight. The two probably aren't unconnected.

Anyone had any experience of either the Danelectro Black Paisley or Behringer SO400 Super Octaver? A friend is being asked to get a fuzz and octave down for the band he's in. I suggested the Danelectro French Toast because I know some people on here really seem to rate it, but just checking it's actually an octave up pedal. So looking about, it seems that the Danelectro or Behringer might fit the bill for a cheap pedal. They both appear to be distortion plus octave rather than fuzz, but I'm wondering if they've got decent levels of drive and sound any good with bass. Any ideas?

+1 to what everyone else has said. Wattage is no guide to how loud something will sound without knowing the other factors involved, the most important of which is the sensitivity of the cabs. Doubling the wattage will give you about 3db increase in volume - about the lowest amount that you would notice as an appreciable increase in volume. You could equally achieve that same increase in volume by using cabs 3db more sensitive, e.g. a 300W amp into a cab with 100db sensitivity would sound as loud as a 600W amp into a cab with 97db sensitivity (all other things being equal). Another way of thinking about this is that two guitarists using identical stacks will only be 3db louder than than just the one guitarist. As I pointed out in the other thread, halving the impedance will give you about a 50% increase in wattage. This will only give you less than 2db increase in volume - ie scarcely noticeable. All of which is another way of saying - DON'T GET HUNG UP ON WATTAGE! Please. The GK will be loud enough - more than likely into the 2x10 you're looking at, definitely into the 4x10.

£52 with a day to go? There's a guy selling them new for just £7 more. I can spot a business opportunity here - I'm off to buy some red emulsion!

My Status Matrix used to belong to Guy Pratt - it appears to be a prototype. Didn't get to meet him though. I've also got a Marshall 4x12 that I bought off Nicky Garrett from the UK Subs.

Actually that note in the wiki is slightly misleading, as you can read it as meaning using higher rated speakers is a bad thing. It was really intended to point out to anyone thinking that if they use speakers rated much higher than than the amp, they can't possibly blow them. As has been pointed out above, that's not the case. If you max out an amp and drive it into clipping it is possible to damage your speakers, regardless of their rating. Personally, I think a 2x10 would be more than up to the job with the GK. As Alex said in another thread, it is possible to get the guitarists to turn down in the unlikely event you're being drowned out - playing in a band is about teamwork, not a competition to drown everyone else out.

[quote name='Boy Thunder' post='172790' date='Apr 9 2008, 01:42 AM']So I make a single circuit of both drivers... Then I have a 4 ohm cab at 300w... if I understand you right... yeah?[/quote] Nope... You'll have an 8 ohm cab at 300W.

Simply put, you shouldn't just do a straight swap with your drivers. Your cab as it stands is wired in parallel - ie the cables from the input jack on your cab go to each speaker individually. Wiring this way means the impedance is split between the two drivers and halved. Which is why your cab is 8 ohm even though it's load with 16 ohm speakers. If you wire up two 4 drivers the same way you'll get a total impedance of 2 ohms, which is below the minimum impedance of you amp. Result = blown amp. However if you wire the drivers in series (ie take the output from one speaker and feed it into the other) you add the total impedence of the drivers. So you'd be back to a 8 ohm cab again. Don't worry about the peak wattage of your amp, it's just quoted to make it sound more impressive. However the cab is wired, wattage is shared equally among drivers with the same impedance. So your cab will be capable of taking 300w (150W per speaker). Incidentally, the MAG puts out 180W into 4 ohms. That means you'll actually be drawing around 120W into an 8 ohm cab.

In a word, no. I wouldn't get hung up too much on the wattage the amp is knocking out - It'll be something around 650W at 8 ohms and the full 1000W will be a 50% increase on that. Unfortunately an increase in wattage doesn't correspond directly to volume. A 50% increase in wattage will give you less than a 2db increase in SPL - to give you an idea of what this means, a 1db increase in SPL is regarded as the minimum increase in volume a human can detect. And you'd need 10 times the wattage to get double the volume (it's actually a bit more complicated than that, but works as a handy guide). The long and short of it is that it's really not worth sweating over such a small percentage increase in power.

Wembley Loudspeakers in Shepherds Bush will sort out you driver problem, though they're likely to recommend a recone rather than a bodge up. If you take it into a shop they are likely to send it off there anyway.

[quote name='SJA' post='172304' date='Apr 8 2008, 03:11 PM'][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEui2pouQWk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEui2pouQWk[/url] Hiwatt head into Marshall cabs? (see at 1.22, beside cheery Jet Black)[/quote] Definately. In fact looking at a few other you tube clips from around the period he seems to be using a variety of cabs, including a salt and pepper Marshall topped with a slightly smaller 4 speaker (12's?) cab in the Straighten Out video. But looking at the 'second coming' download on the strangled website and there's pictures of him in front of a large PA type rig with white speakers between mid 80 and 81.

I'm not so sure about the Hiwatt stack thing. I saw the Stranglers back in the day and he was definately using a Marshall cab (just the one). Not that it makes much difference really.

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='171863' date='Apr 7 2008, 10:31 PM']It just goes to show ... using a JapCrap RickenFaker as the anchor for your dinghy is probably not your smartest option.[/quote] Nope... that's what 70's Fenders are for!

I think wanting a big stack is fair enough. They can look the dog's danglies - just ask the bands that take a bunch of empty cabs and heads on tour. But of course a big stack isn't needed. A pair of cabs isn't necessarily louder than a smaller, lighter and more transportable cab, depending on the efficiency of the cabs. Nor do they necessarily sound better, which is probably the most important thing, but at least you'll be on the way to looking like your heroes playing those stadium gigs. So on paper the Hartke rig fits the bill - a relatively light 4x10, decently powerful amp and not too pricey new. I'm not sure there's too much else out there to look at without going secondhand or smaller.

Hi Dan. What kept you?

Free - Mr. Big (live version) Anyone even thinking about doing a bass solo should listen to Andy Fraser's effort and remember the words Simplicity, Phrasing and Melody. And then promptly forget about ever taking a solo.

[quote name='d-basser' post='171740' date='Apr 7 2008, 08:35 PM']right so distorion could be a sign of the valve being 'on its way out'. i will swap and see if that fixes it, i have tried it with two basses on passive and one active so it aint the bass. Any suggestions of a nice preamp valve for a Fafner or should i just replace it with the same again[/quote] Are you sure it's the amp rather than the cab? You might like to check that the valve is seated properly once you've eliminated the cab from the equation. As for the choice of valve - [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=42"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=42[/url]

I've got Status Matrix but I use an Aria Cardinal now because it's more suitable for the 60's garage stuff I play (it has a shorter scale for a start). But when I used the Status I loved it for it's aggression and definition - I'd been using a Rick to that point and wanted something that would keep the clarity of the Rick but with more bottom end. Listening to the Status on its own it did sound less organic somehow, though that didn't manifest itself in a band situation. It's that old thing of horses for courses - which is a great for GAS.

It's a Burns Jim, but not as we know it? It's very much a Burns - he didn't just produce quirky Fender inspired instruments. This is based on the 70's Scorpion which IMO looked much better and better proportioned than the current version - had a few innovative ideas incorporated into the original design as well. You might like to check out the Flyte for one of Jim Burns's more off the wall designs as well.

[quote name='sk8' post='171135' date='Apr 7 2008, 08:08 AM']the Bergantino AE range get alot of good press[/quote] I think the Bergantino probably falls into the Eden, MarkBass, etc category - quite pricey. Josh - looking at your posts I get the impression (forgive me if I'm wrong) you're looking for a big stack, so that does kind of rule out a lightweight rig at a cheap price. You pay a premium for neo drivers, so a cab with 4 10's is naturally going to cost you more. There are plenty of options if you'd prefer to go for something smaller with fewer drivers, but maybe you can think about getting a trolley. Lidl have a cheap sack trolley at the moment (came in a fortnight ago so be quick if you try to get one) or Argos do a 'fishing cart' for about £35. Doesn't help with stairs of course, but as has been pointed out decent handles do make lifting easier than handling a square box. +1 for trying before you buy, though you never really know what a rig will sound like until you use it in anger. That's why so many people on here seem to change their gear more often than their underwear.

[quote name='dood' post='170391' date='Apr 5 2008, 07:11 PM']If you bought the amp from a shop, why don't you just take it back again and explain the situation. You are perfectly entitled to do so within 14 days without any quibble. Even if you bought from the internet.[/quote] Is that right? I was under the impression that you only had a cooling off period if the transaction was made in your home - like with a door to door salesman. I didn't think there was a statutory right for a refund from shops if you just change your mind, though of course a lot of places would refund you anyway.