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[quote name='MB1' timestamp='1359632142' post='1957805'] MB1. Great live band! Not heard of them playing Manchester in a while who promotes them? Seen them previously at the Academy 3 (11/3/05)...Mustard! I thought theyed decided to call it a day due to Chris's throat problem? [/quote] I'm not sure who the promotor is, but they toured in '11 for the 20th anniversary of 'Pocketful of Kryptonite' and they played the whole album including the UK bonus tracks.There is a video on YouTube of them doing 'Two Princes' at Band on the Wall. One of the best bands I've seen live. (Got a signed set list too).

Great band. I wasn't able to see them this time, but I saw their last tour where they played the entire 'Pocketful of Kryptonite' album at Band on the Wall in Manchester. Mark White was usjng his pink Jazz then and wasn't using any effects. He's got a great left hand technique-pretty much double thumbs everything.Very Wooten-esque (Check out his solo on 'Refrigerator Car' from the 'Homebelly Groove' album). Aaron Comess is the drummer.

[quote name='nobody's prefect' timestamp='1359586135' post='1957280'] 11 strings... Eh, I dunno, never felt the need for more than 6. That's how Leo designed it [/quote] Didn't Leo design it as a 4?

I use a dead simple set up right now. I use a Rolls mixer and a pair of T-bone earphones.I was using a pair of Shure's but after they broke I tried out the T-bone's and they do the job fine....and they were £40. They take out enough external noise and I can hear everything clearly-and I have my bass slightly louder than everything else.Triple drivers are great if you are happy to spend the money on them,but I don't think they are essential. A friend of mine blew a pair of Ultimate Ears triple drivers and now uses a pair of Shure that were about half the cost of the UE's and much prefers them. I use a wired system-I'm not wireless with my bass so it doesn't really make a difference. The big issue for me would only be running 3 monitor channels.The reason I like in ears is because you can get your own personal mix at a good volume.If you are sharing a mix with keys and guitar players then the only thing you can do personally is alter your volume,and all 3 of you will have to compromise on your in ear mix.

I put mine at the end of my effects chain,purely to balance things out a bit when I have multiple pedals going at once. If I'm using one of my multi effects,or no effects at all,I don't use a compressor.

[quote name='bassman344' timestamp='1359582226' post='1957147'] I learned on a bass which was advertised in Kerrang magazine in the late 80s. I bought it around 1988/1989, the make was Axe. Any body suffer the same pain please let me know....! [/quote] They used to have an Axe Bass and Guitar at my school in the music room in the late '90s.I didn't know much about basses then but I knew that my Tanglewood Rebel (the earlier model than the 4k) was a far better instrument. The Axe was horrible.

[quote name='plumbob' timestamp='1359579021' post='1957056'] Doddy I refer to what you said earlier ( The characteristics of the player are a lot more noticable, audibly, than the characteristics of the instrument.) So are characteristics not style? As you know with V bass you are but a midi controller triggering the tone . By the way nice hear off another V bass user , I was beginning to think it was only me and Ped ! [/quote] When I mention a players characteristics,I meaning more about the way that they play that shapes their sound-it's an individual and unique thing to each player.You could class it as a style,but I think of style as being more of a genre thing with regards feel and note choices. The V Bass is great,I don't use it often enough though. [quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1359579508' post='1957070'] What if the player plays dubstep, or electronica. I doubt that dub is 'in the fingers' . [/quote] It starts off in the fingers though. How you play the instrument and the sound that you produce changes how the effects react.

[quote name='plumbob' timestamp='1359576617' post='1956998'] Doddy I know what your saying , but are you now talking about style of playing not tone? Honestly I wouldn’t have said that before using the V bass , but the reality now is that I could stick the midi pickup on your bass , Pino’s bass , or even a plank of wood with strings on it and if I selected the Jazz Bass Slap Preset , you or Pino would have exactly the same bass tone as myself . Now whether I can use that bass tone to play in the style of Jamerson , Pino or Marcus is questionable ! [/quote] No, I'm still talking about tone. No matter what you're running it through, it all starts with your hands, and everyone plays differently. How I pluck the strings will be different from how you pluck the strings and that is the biggest thing, way before the electronics. No need to fit a midi pickup to my bass...I've been running a V Bass with one of my basses for years

[quote name='plumbob' timestamp='1359573298' post='1956918'] So to cover most tones I am now using a combination of things, my plank of wood with strings is actually a Yamaha TRB5Pll, a Roland V bass, an EBS HD650 amp and a BFM Jack [/quote] But, if anyone else played through your gear, they would all sound different. It all starts with the player. I could play a Precision all day, and I wouldn't sound like Jamerson or Pino.It's just how it is. The characteristics of the player are a lot more noticable, audibly, than the characteristics of the instrument.

Maybe it could be something to do with the fact that you seem to have a problem with 'breadheads' as you mention them and the fact that there won't be paid work straight away? Most (all?) of the good players around will want to be getting paid work,especially if they are rehearsing every week and maybe paying for it.Also,they will probably have other commitments,which you also don't want. I'm not saying that you won't find a good player to join your band,but it may be limiting your search somewhat.

I bought this as soon as it came out. Great album-probably my favourite that I bought last year.

[quote name='Bassection' timestamp='1359204685' post='1951504'] To the people that don't understand the whole Youtube cover thing: I do it on a regular basis, and I also make tabs to the songs I play. The video acts as a reference for the tab so they can see exactly what's being played, when, and how it should sound. [/quote] Anyone that even half know me,knows why I find this amusing

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1359158299' post='1951100'] Out of everyone on that list only Marlow and Cannibal Zombie do "play alongs." As for as the fact that you haven't heard of anyone doing pro gigs -- are you aware of every musician and what gigs they do? There are lots of full time musicians who don't play full time with a name act. Talent does not equate to fame. If Van Gogh was so good how come he didn't sell any paintings? [/quote] Talent equating to fame was never mentioned and is a totally different discussion. I'm fully aware that there are a lot of full time musicians that don't play with 'name' acts,being as I make my living as a musician. In the opening post it said 'These guys are pro,no doubt',and I actually doubt that most of them are. You said that this was open to debate...my side is that what most of these guys are doing is not particularly great and I would much rather hear them up on a stage or on record making music rather than sitting at home playing songs to post on Youtube or whatever.

[quote name='Rick's Fine '52' timestamp='1359154416' post='1951037'] Really?, please tell more? [/quote] It's more 'synthy' than some other octave pedals (like the EBS) but it's just a great sound,especially with the direct signal turned all the way down. It's got a few glitches,but you can work with them. If I only take one effect to a gig,it's the OC2.

[quote name='Rick's Fine '52' timestamp='1359150796' post='1950962'] The OC-2 is a better visual match for sure, but can it be used with a bass? I assumed not which is why they did the OC-3?? [/quote] The OC2 is [i]the[/i] baddest pedal on bass.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1359143212' post='1950794'] Great playing all round - looks like Keith Carlock on drums . [/quote] Yeah it is...and Wayne Krantz on guitar

Tim Lefebvre...killer player.

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1359138195' post='1950657'] I don't get all this "why aren't these people in pro bands" thing. Why should they be? Who says that being in a pro band is the only qualification for being a great bassist? [/quote] No one said it is.....but,I'd much rather see a player actually out there and doing it. To me,none of the players listed in the OP,qualify as being particularly 'great'.

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1359113688' post='1950019'] Just wish they show more specs on their products specifically Freq Range and Sensitivity on their cabs. I've been thinking about getting a Mi10 for small gigs and home practise with the shuttle but i don't know if it will have enough highs (or lows)... [/quote] The Mi10 has plenty of range and will handle whatever you want to throw at it.

My favourite is the EMMA DiscumBOBulator. I've got a few envelope filters,but that's the one that lives on my pedal board.

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1359137419' post='1950629'] There are certainly a lot of w***ers playing bass on Youtube that's for sure. [/quote] Yep,and unfortunately there is no 'sh*t filter'.

No they aren't easy. Let's be honest about it,playing simple bass is far easier than learning simple drums.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1359129100' post='1950366'] 2. If they are all so freaking awesome on the bass (or whatever other instrument we see them playing) then why are they still stuck in their bedrooms playing along to other people's records? If I had half the technical ability that these people appear to have I would be out there taking every opportunity to play with as many people as possible, gigs and sessions and so on. [/quote] I totally agree. In the opening post it says 'these guys are pros,no doubt',yet I never hear about the majority of Youtube players doing any form of pro gig (or any gig really). I don't get the whole Youtube playalong thing...I really do think 'so what?'. Everyone plays to records at some point but what's the point of putting it online? Also,the majority of 'lessons' are really poor. Taking a couple of popular Youtube guys-DavidSinRocks,to me,sounds like a poor copy of Flea in everything he plays (including the Maceo vid above) and is really unimpressive. Marlowe DK can play but,for me,his lessons don't have enough substance or information. He demonstrates everything clearly enough,but I'd like to hear him explain what he's doing more and why,rather than just mostly playing the licks at a slower tempo.I've not seen his website (I'm not interested), so if he does this,great,but I'm going off what I've seen on Youtube.

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1358880515' post='1946522'] Luck or i've just worked with more organised MD's. Don't get me wrong, I've had a couple where you get it just before or when you get there. A lot of the time it's friggin piano score has well so your reading 12 lines below. Which frankly pisses me off! [/quote] I don't know if it's a matter organisation. A lot of people don't want the hassle and expense of posting the scores out to the various musicians,especially when it's generally expected that they can read well enough o do the gig anyway. I've rarely had to read piano scores as well....the only time I have is when an Am Dram company is doing a compilation show and they just photocopy a piano reduction to give to everyone. It is annoying when you get them though.

I don't have chance to listen to the tune, but if the chords are just E, A and B you can easily play major arpeggios or scales over them. Even in a Blues, the chords are generally dominant ( I, III, V, bVII) so major will work over them-when playing a minor pentatonic over them the b3 of the scale is normally acting as the #9 of the chord,becauee the chord contains a major 3. I think what will be better for you at this point would be to focus mire on the chords than try to blanket them with a scale.In this case it's all in E major,but look at the chord tones- E major-E, G#, B...A maj- A, C#, E...B maj....B, D#, F#