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[quote name='Bassassin' post='794864' date='Apr 3 2010, 09:52 AM']With age comes wisdom, young sir! That's exactly what they are - or at least the neck covers. The intention was that the edge of the palm rested on the cover & the thumb plucked the strings. This is why "thumb" rests (a "tug bar" if you're Rickenbacker) on the G side of the strings were common in the 50s & 60s - an anchor for the fingers of the plucking hand. Jon.[/quote] Right..... Although I'm pretty sure that 2x18 is right with the feedback prevention idea. I seem to remember reading a while ago that that was the original intention. Either way,I think they look great-Especially just one over the neck pickup on a Jazz Bass,Marcus style. I find it a little weird to play a 4 string Jazz without one now.

The only time I've ever had a problem in a music shop,is in a certain shop in Birmingham-I won't name them but it's opposite New Street Station and sounds similar to Fair Deal Music. I been in to the shop numerous times and never had any problems,but on this occasion the guys in the shop wouldn't let me go look upstairs where the Basses were because I was wearing an ankle length coat.If they'd have asked me if I minded removing it or something I would've done,but they didn't....just that I couldn't go upstairs because of my coat. This will be about 3 or 4 years ago,so it wasn't like I was kid or anything. So,I just walked down the road and spent my money in Sound Control instead.

This has probably been mentioned already,but it's ace........ [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC4XKk5V8lw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC4XKk5V8lw[/url] I'm really digging this track at the moment. In fact,I'm digging the whole album.............. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRL6KEGLAGE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRL6KEGLAGE[/url] And just for something a bit different.............. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ISF95axZQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ISF95axZQ[/url]

Roscoe LG models have angled pickups.

Nice one Bilbo. Very clever.

I still pick up the bass everyday. For fun I play things that I'm not regularly playing.At the minute I'm doing quite a few funk and jazz gigs,so for fun I'm enjoying playing some rock and pop. Got to keep the chops up

[quote name='thack' post='791437' date='Mar 31 2010, 02:11 AM'] Surely if you practice good technique, you shouldn't need a single-cut to force your thumb down?[/quote] No you don't need one. Like I said,there are alot of players who put their thumb over the neck when they play,and you cannot do this on a singlecut. I have had people play mine and struggle in the upper register because they tend to grip the neck with their thumb over the top. So when I said that it facilitates good technique,I am saying that you basically have to use a 'correct' hand position up the neck as you cannot physically reach your thumb over the top. If you have your technique together,it's not a problem,but for some people it is.

[quote name='Oscar South' post='791344' date='Mar 30 2010, 11:34 PM']Definitely true, but its just common sense to lead a figure with the same finger each time, otherwise you'll lose some degree of consistency and essentially double the phrase length for no real reason. Little detail though.[/quote] I don't think it matters if you lead with the same finger or not. Most people will always lead with ,say, the index finger,but if you practice leading with the other fingers aswell,there won't be any inconsistencies,and it won't make any difference.

I've seen quite a few people who don't use the 4th finger,especially up the neck. Just try running a few scales and focus on using all four fingers.If you start with your middle finger the major scale will fit under your hand with no shifts-if you play 1 finger per fret that is.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='791116' date='Mar 30 2010, 09:09 PM']Sorry if I upset you by not blindly accepting your "the design facilitates good technique blah blah" nonsense and instead making you look a bit daft. I'll shut up and let you rabbit on in future, it's not like anyone was listening.[/quote] It takes more than you arguing with me to make me feel daft.

I've got a van with a disabled conversion and a Singlecut. I'm comfortable with my immense coolness.

[quote name='Oscar South' post='790800' date='Mar 30 2010, 04:56 PM']It can mess you up if it makes you lead a rhythmic figure with alternate fingers, especially at fact tempos.[/quote] That's a good reason to be comfortable leading with all your picking fingers. I tend to rake if I'm playing a quick descending pattern.I could probably do it be alternating fingers,but sometimes it is just easier to just rake. If you are comfortable with playing both ways it gets to the point where you will naturally play it the easiest way,without having to think about it.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='791059' date='Mar 30 2010, 08:30 PM']Can't you do that on any bass? I can understand having a preference for thru-necks or bolt necks or set necks or whatever, since that actually affects how you have to play the bass because it determines what's under your thumb at the end of the neck, but the presence or lack of the upper bout of the bass wouldn't make a difference would it?[/quote] I can do it on any bass you give me,but I prefer to do it on my singlecut as any temptation to grip the neck is eliminated.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='790988' date='Mar 30 2010, 07:44 PM']I'm going to assume that you're right, because it would be pointless arguing with something you're already so convinced of regardless of how wrong you are.[/quote] That'll be a first

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='791040' date='Mar 30 2010, 08:18 PM']I just think it's a weird thing to like about them, because it doesn't seem to be of any benefit. I've seen bassists hook their thumbs over on lower notes but not (as far as I can remember) up the dusty end. Certainly not *only* up the dusty end. And most bass players only spend a tiny fraction of their time that far up the neck anyway.[/quote] Maybe it is a weird reason but it's one of the things I like about playing them. Yeah a lot of players do put their thumb over the neck down low aswell. Without turning this thread into technique talk,it's not a good idea to do it. I play up the neck quite a lot so being able to keep the same technique over the entire range of the instrument is important.

I love the Bolins.

First of all,I'm not saying that you can't play properly on any instrument. I'm saying that on a singlecut instrument you cannot put your thumb over the top of the neck when playing in the upper range like many people do.It's one of the things I like about them. Secondly, my singlecut is actually lighter than my Fenders,and i'm sure it is a damn sight lighter than your Warwick.

Yes,quite a lot of people do place their thumb over the neck in the higher register. A lot of peoples thumbs also drag behind the rest of their hand. On a singlecut there is no need for this.You can keep a good hand position throughout the entire range of the instrument.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='790952' date='Mar 30 2010, 07:14 PM']What does that mean?[/quote] It means that you can't do the whole thumb over the neck,heavy grip thing that a lot of players do. You have to have your thumb in the centre of the neck when playing in the upper register of a singlecut bass.

I totally dig Singlecuts. I've got a Shuker Singlecut 5. They balance great and they really facilitate good technique in the upper register,and allow access to the whole range. Plus they look cool.

[quote name='steve' post='790853' date='Mar 30 2010, 05:45 PM']Give a man a riff, and he'll play for a day, teach him how to riff and he'll play forever (I'll get my coat </mb1>)[/quote] Leave your coat where it is....You are totally correct.

I think the image matters to a point. For instance,I'd never take my singlecut on a sweaty rock gig.I'm more inclined to use my Fender,partly because it would just look totally out of place. Most times it doesn't really make a difference,as long as I like it that's all that really matters. But sometimes you have to look right,and the instrument may be as important as your shirt.

[quote name='tom1946' post='790637' date='Mar 30 2010, 02:45 PM']I don't want to learn to read because I wouldn't remember it very well. (age) Just need to learn riffs and technique?[/quote] If you are going to have lessons to just learn riffs,then I think you are probably wasting money. If you pay your £20 or whatever and are shown riffs,then all you can play is that riff. If you learn to read,and play scales and arpeggios and concepts and things,you will have the knowledge to play a million riffs.

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Like I always say,for solos I always start off by looking at the chord tones,then fill them out with their relative scales with the ultimate goal of playing melodically over the changes. When the chords are going by quickly,look for sections where you can almost 'blanket' a few bars with one scale(eg. ii-V-I).It will allow you to open up and play longer phrases than if you are focusing on the changes individually. In this case you can look at the A section as one big Bb major thing if you want to,and the B section as stating in D mixolydian then moving in fourths. Of course you can approach it differently if you want,but this is a way to allow you to think about playing over the changes melodically without too much thinking.