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[quote name='Doddy' post='1298156' date='Jul 9 2011, 12:32 PM']But there you are talking about playing a part differently....Who is going to notice if you are fretting a low D on a five rather than drop tuning and playing an open string?[/quote] I agree that no one should care if you play an open drop D note or fret it on the low string of a fiver. However, there are plenty of (mainly) rock tracks that require you to utilise an open string, such as Slither or, say Mr Brownstone (to keep the GnR comparison going!

[quote name='Johnston' post='1298099' date='Jul 9 2011, 11:36 AM']So a load of pissed up punters who usually can't remember how they got home are going to remember that the bassist used an open note and critique you whilst drunk because you fret the note instead I play the intro riff to sweet child different from any version I know. Ironically I use open notes rather than staying around the 12th fret. In something like 8 years no one noticed. Not even the rest of the band. Heck I listened to my mates bands demo and he plays lines that are nothing like the originals. Now either No one notices or no one cares. Because they are booked up something like a year in advance and play something like 3 times a week and nearly every night in the Works Christmas do period.[/quote] So you play a very well known song completely wrong and you think that no one notices or cares?? You're having yourself on mate...........

[quote name='Doddy' post='1297790' date='Jul 8 2011, 10:56 PM']As long as you're playing the right notes,it doesn't matter what you are tuned to. If I'm playing a five string,like I do 90% of the time,should I still tune down a semitone to match the recording? There's no point,I've got the notes under my fingers anyway.[/quote] Sorry, but that is just wrong for a lot of riff based rock songs Try playing for example 'Slither' by Velvet Revolver, a fast open string riff in drop D tuned down half a step on a 5 string in standard tuning and make it sound right? It just won't work.....

[quote name='Johnston' post='1297774' date='Jul 8 2011, 10:48 PM']And do you think a load of pissed up punters would notice the difference?[/quote] Believe me, they will notice the difference if they've seen another band play it properly the week before!

I will be travelling up to Scotland this weekend with the Paddy Maguire Band to play three gigs in two days, in Edinburgh and at the Dundee Blues Bonanza: Friday 1 July (7.30pm) – Wistlebinkies, 4-6 South Bridge, Edinburgh Saturday 2 July (teatime) – The Dog House, 15 Ward Road, Dundee Saturday 2 July (9.30pm) – the Underground, 25 South Tay Street, Dundee You may not be too surprised to find out that it’s a pretty loud blues rock band with a great frontman. Anyone who is into that sort of stuff and is in Dundee for the Blues Bonanza or out in Edinburgh on Friday, please look out for us and come and say hello and maybe have a beer….. Cheers – Pete

[quote name='Doddy' post='1279132' date='Jun 22 2011, 10:11 PM']I think she's a far better player than Tal,anyway. Her playing on the Prince DVD 'Live at the Aladdin' is great. Her solo albums are pretty cool too.[/quote] I was joking of course - mainly as Pete had edited his original post to remove a similar joke, presumably to avoid upsetting anybody! Not a big fan of either of their solo stuff but both seem extremely capable bass players and both seem to work well enough in JB’s band……

Cheers for posting that - been looking for one of those...!

Good stuff – and apparently she didn’t get the gig by sleeping with the drummer….!

I think that I must move in completely different musical circles to some people here! I have never gone to a gig on public transport and can’t imagine getting away with turning up at a show without a rig. I certainly wouldn’t trust most pub’s PAs to be responsible for 100% of my out front sound and to be honest, it is usually much better in small venues to have most of your sound come from your backline and let the PA take care of the vocals, drums & keys, etc (especially for rock bands with reasonably loud drummers)! Even if you are lucky enough to find yourself working on a stage in a big room with a good PA and a half decent sound engineer, it doesn’t hurt to have a backline to give him an idea of what the band should sound like and therefore a reference of what you want him to reproduce out front….!

[quote name='bassbluestew' post='1271038' date='Jun 16 2011, 09:22 AM']Hey Pete, just missed you guys in Scotland, but next time your in Glasgow with Paddy - or anyone else for that matter - look me up and we'll hook up. S[/quote] Hey Stew Have you met Paddy then?? We haven’t got Glasgow in the book at the moment, but funnily enough we will be up in Scotland for the Dundee Blues Bonanza on Saturday 2 July. Also got a gig the night before in Edinburgh Dunno who you play for or if you ever get to the big festivals but we’re also playing the Maryport Blues Festival on 30 and 31 July. I understand that we’re also the house band for a late night jam session on the Saturday If you’re likely to be around for any of those drop me a PM and I will confirm venues & times and exchange mobile numbers and we can arrange to meet up for a beer…! Cheers – Pete

[quote name='bassbluestew' post='1270831' date='Jun 15 2011, 11:21 PM']And you would love it dearly...........................have never played a Burner so no idea what they are like, but my BSR is the poodles plums. S[/quote] I got the Burner for just over £500 about 20 years ago - really nice bass for the money, wish that I had come across it 10 years before! Bumpted into a guy I used to know at a jam session a while ago and got to play his really nice (American) Fodera - he wanted to know if I still had the bright red KS Burner and was talking about what a great bass it was! Would definitely like to try out one of the top of the range KS basses..........

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1267837' date='Jun 13 2011, 08:31 PM']He was rude and arrogant in places.[/quote] He's from New York - Whadaya gonna do about it?? After wading thru this (very entertaining) thread I do find myself taking a shine to Mr Smith. This is something that pleases me greatly as I bought a s/h KS Burner many years ago (still have it) and out of all the basses that I have ever owned, it is certainly one of my favourites! If I was ever going to buy a boutique bass I always thought that it might be a Fodera, but after reading this thread I would definitely consider a Ken Smith…!

[quote name='LawrenceH' post='1263444' date='Jun 9 2011, 11:35 PM']That is one talent. But producing incredibly complicated music that's original and distinctive is also a talent! [/quote] Actually I agree, just that simplicity tends to mean that the music can be accessible to more people and is sometimes more difficult - just how do you produce something fresh with the same four chords? Not arguing about Jaco thru, one of the all time greats.....

[quote name='4000' post='1263166' date='Jun 9 2011, 07:55 PM']Funny, because that's kind of the opposite journey to mine. I was listening to (not just hearing) bebop when I was 6, 7 or 8 years old. I knew who Ray Brown, Charlie Parker, Dizzy etc were earlier than that. I wanted to be Buddy Rich at the age of six or seven. Other than the Beatles (obviously) I couldn't have named a single musician in any rock or pop band. And yet strangely I happily enjoy "predictable" music, and as I grew older I grew to love it more and more. I remember hearing Deep Purple aged around 14 and thinking "damn that's simple....but it's fantastic!". I rate AC/DC or ABBA as high as any jazz artist I've ever heard; higher, probably. There's a tiny hint of the superior about your post. Ultimately your interesting can be another person's anything but and vice versa. At the point where someone feels that only more supposedly "sophisticated" music is better or more worthy, they really don't understand the beauty of music anymore IMO.[/quote] Great post - real talent is in producing simple music that is also original and distinctive!

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='1261339' date='Jun 8 2011, 03:37 PM']Say what you like about Jaco but he was a total one-off, he had an original sound, he dropped jaws without resorting to gimmicks, novelty techniques and party pieces, he had a musicality that very few players ever get near. He really carved his own niche and I have massive respect for him for that. I don't dig everything he did but even the stuff I don't like is often compelling because he puts so much of himself into it.[/quote] What he said - spot on

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1260093' date='Jun 7 2011, 06:58 PM']I don't care if some don't like it. Its beautifully executed. No rhythm? Yeah. Like a train A lot of popular music is based around a definitive and explixit beat. Boom, Whack, boom, whack, boom whack. All beat and no grove. Listen to Bach. No beat there either.[/quote] Nothing wrong with a backbeat - it forms the foundation of 90% of the music that I love and to say that Chic, AC/DC, etc have no goove is just plain wrong! However there has to be room for the other 10%........

I don’t understand the problem that some people seem to have with Jaco I’m no jazz fan but to me it is obvious that he was one of the greats who transcended his instrument and his genre, just like Hendrix, just like Louis Armstrong and a very few others……

If you really want to set up a bass properly yourself then these videos show you how in a pretty easy to follow way: [url="http://www.bassplayer.com/Video.aspx?bctid=54295050001&bclid=27964998001&section=lessons"]http://www.bassplayer.com/Video.aspx?bctid...section=lessons[/url] (video 1 of 4 – just start the next one when you’re ready)

For anyone who may be interested, yours truly jamming with Jon Amor (ex The Hoax) and the awesome Texan guitarist Lance Lopez at the Hebden Bridge Blues Festival Midnight Jam Sessions last Friday night [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bEd1T0zRg4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bEd1T0zRg4[/url] The house band for the Friday night session was me on bass, Mick Cluderay on drums & Kev Fitzpatrick on keys (all from the Paddy Maguire Band)

[quote name='JTUK' post='1251971' date='May 31 2011, 08:09 PM']But Queen in 1975 were competing with Led Zep, Deep Purple etc..and they were never in that league either. IIRC, they were regarded as very lightweight by comparison...and it wasn't until those types of bands died, that Queen came to the fore...plus they were a pop band I am not sure in what period Queen started selling out everywhere, but I doubt it was in the 70's[/quote] To be fair, Queen were massive in this country in the 70s! But they were never as big as Led Zep, etc especially in the States......

[quote name='Sparky' post='1245388' date='May 26 2011, 11:28 AM']Thanks Merton & Pete for your input on the G.K.. What cab(s) are you both using?[/quote] I'm using a Bergantino HS410, which is a pretty loud cab I think that the little GK sounded great (bit of a marmite thing - keys player loved it, drummer hated it) and if you like that sound and you can get a MB500 for £300 like Jakester, I would consider that to be a good alternative If your budget is going to be tighter you will need to shop around the secondhand forum / eBay but do be careful and make sure that you get an amp with sufficient headroom if you are going to gig it – as I said before, as good as it sounds, I have doubts that a MB200 will be loud enough! And please don’t get a Behringer!!

[quote name='Merton' post='1245027' date='May 25 2011, 11:50 PM']The GK MB200 is a loud 200W (whatever that means ), I love mine and it's gigged with a loud band with no problem.[/quote] Funnily enough, I was just about to say that as much as I like my MB200 I found that it struggled in a rehearsal with a loud(ish) band - not sure that I would risk gigging it! Personally I would be tempted to save the extra and get a s/h LMII for live work.....

I really like the J East preamp but you do have to be careful what you do with it - less is definitely more...!

[quote name='molan' post='1243602' date='May 24 2011, 10:39 PM']All of Phil's basses are the newer models - I've had a go on all three of them Was the one you tried the red 4 or the natural 5? Your theory about strings and set up is really interesting. Most Foderas come with 40-100 nickels and a vaguely medium height set up. I helped Phil at the London bass show this year and we literally had two people in a row that tried one of the NYC's and one said the action needed drastically lowering and that he was surprised that Foderas weren't set up with a super low action. The very next person said he couldn't get a proper feel for it with the light gauge strings and such a low, 'unplayable', action! Just goes to show you can't please all of the people all of the time, lol. I know that I've seen basses 'transformed' with a different set of strings and a set up that suits me. Just changing something as simple as this makes them feel totally different and this improved playability makes them actually 'sound' better to me as well - all totally subjective of course! Speaking of which - I once ran a little test at my place with three different people and a Sadowsky Will Lee NYC, a Celinder J Update and a Fodera NYC. Each person chose a different one as their favourite![/quote] It could well have made all the difference if it had a set of steel 45-105s on and I could have got the action down a fair bit (it was the red 4 BTW) Would love to have tried out those three basses when I was looking for a jazz bass - I would imagine that there wouldn't be much between them and you would pick the one that just clicked with you for some unidentifiable reason I really liked the look of the Will Lee Sadowsky but it was way over my budget…. BTW have you ever tried a John East active circuit? A phenomenal piece of kit that really gives you a great active jazz sound with loads of clout

[quote name='molan' post='1242500' date='May 24 2011, 12:20 AM']How old was the one you tried? They've really improved over the last 18 months or so. I'd definitely rate them up with an NYC Sadowsky now.[/quote] It was quite recently (in Bass Gear in Harrogate) so I assume that it was quite a recent model It was a stunning looking instrument (probably the prettiest looking jazz bass that I have ever seen) and I am a big Fodera fan so I really wanted to like it, but it didn't really do it for me! Perhaps if I had 30 minutes with an allen key and a heavier gauge set of strings it might have been different Unfortunately I have never played a US Sadowsky, so I can’t compare it directly. Would definitely love to try one out properly as I imagine it is probably what I had in mind when I was looking for a ‘super jazz’ (which ended up being the Mayones with the East preamp)!