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[quote name='Waldo' post='340148' date='Nov 28 2008, 11:43 PM']So let me get this straight. The over sensitive, prissy types in this forum got outraged over BBC's somewhat close to the mark posts, and effectively started a campaign to have him banned and succeeded. So now, a member steals a large ammount of money from someone half way across the world, thinking that he can get away with it and then decides to rectify the situation four months later after trying to cover his tracks, only because he had no choice but to do so. The forum response is to forgive him, blame it on his young foolishness, feel sorry for his 'problems' (which you don't even know exist, happy to take his word on that are you?), say that he shouldn't be banned from here, oh and pay the sizeable shipping costs to get the bass to its original owner for him. Right then.[/quote] Admittedly, I have to agree with this point. Well played sir.

[quote name='noelk27' post='339905' date='Nov 28 2008, 05:24 PM']You're a top bloke, Rob. And you deserve everyone's appreciation, a few pints, and a good kip.[/quote] For the record, I am straight edge, have the pints yourself!

A few people have asked me for a TLDR (too long didnt read) version of what happened so here it is! (from my point of view) TLDR version. A guy in the phillipenes bought a warwick off of jakebass 4 months ago and paid for it Via paypal. jake decided to keep the money and the bass. 4 months down the line buyer puts a help thread up on the warwick and BC boards. Turns out i used to talk to Jake alot before this happened. I had his email address and searched for his profilel on myspace, which was private. But it was there. I then searched for "jake brighton band bassist" on google and turned up with an old band of his called icebound which had Jakes profile in the top friends, I put two and two together. I contacted numerous people that were in his old band, they clammed up and didnt tell me anything, I managed to find his phone number and address of his parents, At this point jake was really worried and came onto messenger to help sort out the whole problem, Obviously the pressure got too much for him and decided to send the bass. Anyway, I managed to set up a meeting between steve norris and jake this morning, Where steve would pick up the bass and get it to Gman who is a moderator of the warwick forums, We have setup a fund which has more then enough in it to send the bass to the buyer in the phillipenes, Gman will then mail it to the buyer. Currently Steve Norris has the bass and will be getting it to Gman within the next few days. There are many things missing but thats the gist of it. There has been so much backing and filing on jakes part, I have had to ring many many people, get the police involved (But ultimately not use) call in favours, setup meetings, cajoule and encourage Jake to do the right thing etc. I am not the only person to have done things. Thanks to Gman from the Warwick Forums for doing other behind the scenes stuff involved in tracking down things, Steve Norris For picking the bass up from jake, the burpster for his sound advice. The people who helped donate to get the bass over to the phillipenes and people who invested their time into this. Also a national newspaper has wanted to get involved, However i have declined, I dont want this going public to the nation beyond the boundaries of bassdom, To protect jakes identity and to prevent internet sales media scaremongering. Im f***ing knackered, I just want this situation over! My fingers are falling off from all the typing! -Rob.

[quote name='Wil' post='339887' date='Nov 28 2008, 05:13 PM']This forum is getting more like the Sun every day.[/quote] Wheres my page 3?

I used to be a Super moderator for Ultimate-guitar.com, We never allowed the average member to decide on bannings and such. I think its up to the mods of BC to decide. They know the story and are probably discussing it.

I dont think i can contribute to this thread as i have mix feelings. If jake intends to reimburse people for the shipping at somepoint then ban him from the sale section. and see what happens.

Just got an update text from steve, [b]Bass looks like its in good condition [/b]

[quote name='Lorne' post='339794' date='Nov 28 2008, 04:16 PM']Fan-F***ing-Tastic I take it Steve actually saw the bass,and not just picked up a box without looking to see what the contents were?[/quote] Yup i am sure he saw it! -Rob.

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='339788' date='Nov 28 2008, 04:10 PM']I want to donate but I can't use PayPal.[/quote] The thought is appreciated though mate Thank you!

[quote name='bassoctopus' post='339780' date='Nov 28 2008, 04:05 PM']Let's not forget that Reuel has already paid Jake to ship the bass once already, so claiming poverty is no excuse. I personally think if he was sorry he would have handed over one of his precisions to be auctioned on ebay to pay for this. Just goes to prove he's not sorry at all IMO[/quote] It could be possible that hes sorry but seriously has no money. I am not supporting him in this matter, thankyou very much for the donation its really appreciated, Whatever happens with jake concerning shipping money is up to jake to do. -Rob.

[quote name='bassoctopus' post='339771' date='Nov 28 2008, 03:59 PM']Tenner in from me. Did Steve manage to speak to Jake without punching him in the face? Has Jake contributed to shipping? I expect Jake to pay us back for this - the actual money can go to charity as far as I'm concerned.[/quote] Steve felt that he was genuinely sorry (For himself probably but and on the overall situation) and just wanted this over. Steve feels that no action should be taken against jake, And i agree. Jake claims not to have any money, I believe him. Whether he is likely to pay back the shipping i have no idea that is up to him. I dont want anyone harrasing jake publicly anymore, or getting the police involved or phoning his family. This is now about getting the bass to the phillipenes, If you dont want to donate thats fine. [quote name='thisnameistaken' post='339772' date='Nov 28 2008, 04:00 PM']If I sell someone a bass can I have a whip-round for whatever associated costs I don't feel like paying?[/quote] This is not helping. I understand your frustrations.

[b]THE SHIPPING FUND. [/b] paypal address is [email protected] Donate as much as you like, Shipping is likely to cost over 100 quid. [quote]Hi all, Well I'm ecstatic that Reule's bass is now in friendly hands! I'm hoping to arrange with Steve to pick it up asap and get it off to it's rightful owner. So....contributions gladly accepted! Paypal payments to: [email protected] Any amount will be gratefully received - so please donate however much you feel. I'm guessing the shipping will be well over £100, but I'll know better once I have accurate dimensions and weight. Thanks for your support - bassplayers are the BEST! Very Happy Giles[/quote] Donated a tenner myself! All i can spare (Just a poor student )

I just wish i could see the bass at somepoint! RL or photo! I wont even get to touch them damn thing! lol.

Gman will be collecting funds on the warwick boards, I will crosspost his address when i get it. -Rob.

[b]THE BASS HAS BEEN PICKED UP![/b] Steve now has the bass.

[quote name='Lorne' post='339132' date='Nov 28 2008, 12:40 AM']it sure feels good to retrieve stolen instruments eh?[/quote] I have a headache

Ok i have been working and typing and phoning on overtime, Arranging all of this so i will keep this short. Tommorow, Steve (BC member) will be picking up the bass from jake in hove at 4PM. Steve will then take it to Ped's (BC admin) at oxford in evening. Then gman (Warwick Board member, Whos only 45 miles down the road in coventry) Will probably pick the bass up from ped and send it on to roeul! I will keep everyone updated. Balls in Jakes court. -Rob. TLDR VERSION OF STORY. (Short version of story. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=32680&st=80#entry339900"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...=80#entry339900[/url] UPDATE. [b]THE SHIPPING FUND. [/b] More then enough donations have been given to cover the cost of some very speedy shipping and insurance, thankyou very much! Any surplus i imagine will be going to charity [quote]Hi all, Well I'm ecstatic that Reule's bass is now in friendly hands! I'm hoping to arrange with Steve to pick it up asap and get it off to it's rightful owner. So....contributions gladly accepted! Paypal payments to: [email protected] Any amount will be gratefully received - so please donate however much you feel. I'm guessing the shipping will be well over £100, but I'll know better once I have accurate dimensions and weight. Thanks for your support - bassplayers are the BEST! Very Happy Giles[/quote] Donated a tenner myself! All i can spare (Just a poor student )

[quote name='steve-soar' post='339040' date='Nov 27 2008, 11:04 PM']I lost an oven today[/quote] that was unobservent of you!

[quote name='ped' post='339012' date='Nov 27 2008, 10:38 PM']Rob, have you noticed your user title has been changed? :0)[/quote] Bleh Needs a Medal Picture or something, I could have added that title ;-)

[quote name='The Burpster' post='338978' date='Nov 27 2008, 10:07 PM']Anyone else from the Brighton are or within striking distance please? (contingency planning stage one)[/quote] Dude, jakes pmed Gman and says he will post the bass tommorow. However having backups is a good idea. -Rob.

[quote name='kevbass' post='338960' date='Nov 27 2008, 09:52 PM']So go on then, whats the story? whats that fellas excuse for behaving in such a way?[/quote] This is not the thread for that. We will get the bass from him and THEN talk about it. Or else this thread will be closed like the last one.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='338952' date='Nov 27 2008, 09:47 PM']I might be in that area tomorrow if I am I can pick it up.[/quote] That would be some great help, if you can 100% do it, I will provide the details. -Rob.