VTypeV4

[quote name='planer' timestamp='1504706961' post='3366769'] Built-in toaster is a killer feature [/quote] Not forgetting the coffee pod holder either - both essential items on a gig!

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I haven't looked at the AW in detail but I did have a look at the 01X although on closer inspection, iit looks to be a backwards step compared to the MOTU / Yamaha combo.. I'll keep my eye on ebay and see what crops up.

No worries Al.. It does indeed have the 60mm faders of the AW (and of the early 01V too) and are cheap as chips - < £200. I recently sold my 'spare' 02R as part of a deal for a bike. I'm considering I could do with a replacement and the 03D may be in the frame as it's much less cumbersome than an 02R with many of the same features. The obvious answer is to grab another 02R or possibly a 328XD but the temptation of something different for mobile / location work is attractive.. It's a real shame the 03D doesn't support the Unity card - that would be a killer mini setup.

I probably should have started a new thread but thought it was applicable here too.. Just a quick one - Has anyone used an 03D in any capacity?

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I've been a long time user of trace gear - from a boxer 30 practice to the big daddy (at the time), the 600SMX and my current V4.. I'd say £800 would get you a long way towards a monster rig! For me, pick of the bunch of the 'traditiional' rigs would be the 400SMX head as it's superbly powerful / loud combined with the 12 band EQ and dual band compressor. They also have the very cool UV light which still look awesome. As suggested, the cabs are showing their age a bit by now so personally, I'd buy a head and run it with newer speakers. There's nothing wrong wiith the old cabs but they're very heavy and bulky allthough they do have a certain sound to them which you may or may not like. One of the best weight / bulk / output rigs I had was the 300SMX with 2103H (2x10) and 1153 (compact 1x15) which really was an awesome little stack. I have considered re-creating it as took a small footprint. Most of the combos are pretty good although the older two-tens may not play quite as loudly without complaint as newer versions or other companies models. The single fifteens are solid - the 715 I had worked very well indeed despite an apparent low (150w) power rating. I also had a V-Type 4808 (300w 4x8) which was a lovely sounding thing but my fave combo was probably a Twin Valve which was an all valve 100w 1x15. As with anything just go try one and see how you go - it might be for you or you might think they're horrible.

Sorry for the loss of images on the thread - I refuse to pay the $399 Photobucket ransome.. [url=https://postimg.org/image/7v5d1s9z7/][/url] Just testing a new solution..

My step dad had a proamplifiers VSQ65 guitar amplifier years ago.. It was an all valve 65w 1x12 combo, multi-channel boogie-esque type thing that was well built, sounded excellent and weighed a ton. Mr Foxen had the 150w head version for sale a while back. I know nothing of the bass model described above but i'm reasonably sure they're had nothing to do with Trace although I'm happy to be proved wrong on that..

Never had an amp but use two Goliath Jr 3 cabiinets (2x10) which are awesome - light by standards - heavy by todays but they're beautiful sounding and well made. Be aware O/E drivers are diifficult to come by and there's mixed opinion on alternative solutions..

Mastering is a tough one.. I agree that you could blitz a track in 15 minutes but the chances of it coming out to potential seems unlikely - like a mix, if you rush it, it'll show in the end product.. I usually (although not always) use a two stage process one with hardware (TC Finalizer in the 02R) and the second with software (Ozone Izotope) and I'm usuallly happy with the result - as are the clients - but it can be really easy to over or indeed under-do the processing.. Starting with a proper mix does make the whole process a far more pleasant one but even then, it's not something to be rushed or forced - it's easy to ruin something that was great before you started.. Just my opinion, of course.. Sorry to the O/P, I don't reallly have time to have a pop at your track but hope the other offers here yeild a top result.

[URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/DSC_0339_zpskl4oydyu.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/DSC_0339_zpskl4oydyu.jpg[/IMG][/URL] 02Rs in service this evening - just console B (main live desk) actually doing any work in the picture although I'd done some work a little earlier with console A on a recording from last night. I'll post the finished track when it's completed sometime next week.

Interesting - especially compared to some of those other consoles. The only analogue console I've used that comes close to the ML is a Soundcraft GB8 although to be fair, it's been a long time since I used one. I think the last time was when the GL went for service and new faders so it's certainly a number of years ago.. I also remember being a little disappointed when I first used the GL after a break from it whilst I was getting used to my 328XD - it sounded very odd by comparison. I love the GL and but the ML will almost certainly kick it's ass. I'm a little surprised the ML out ranks the GS3000 too - I'd always thought these were meant to be the pinnacle and they were on my list as a maybe before the ML was purchased.. I'd love to try (or maybe I wouldn't!) a Soundcraft MH4 or Series 5 as they have a very similar feature set just to see how well they compare to the ML. And a Yamaha M3000A (these seem to have a very poor reputatiion) plus the well respected PM3500 / 4000.. I agree about the cost of things currently - lots can be had for very little! You and I have had true bargains with these ML range desks especially consideriing it's not actually that long since they were current models. I remember a conversation I had with Dave at Bullet Sound probably ten / twelve years ago when they still had their ML5K (32 frame) and him telling me they were getting rid of it. Knowing it had cost upwards of £20K or thereabouts, I asked what he expected to get for it and him saying he'd be happy with 10 - 12 grand.. Madness! I paid £1125 for my 48 frame including the two RPS14 supplies and the flight case. Absolute madneess! [URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/DSC_0337_zpsopudkngy.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/DSC_0337_zpsopudkngy.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/DSC_0336_zpsoty8wbev.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/DSC_0336_zpsoty8wbev.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/DSC_0335_zpsaerhi4nx.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/DSC_0335_zpsaerhi4nx.jpg[/IMG][/URL] With regards to automation, we're largely doing it on the software although for a few things, it's had a few of us riding the faders as the pre-master track records in real time. The VCA control does help not chasing the channel faders round for 'manual' automation - I've used it quite a bit more than I thought I would.

All good stuff there, Al - particularly love the tape machine.. I assume you're pleased with your ML - I've done a few things on my 5K now - no recording though, just mixes, although I really can't fault mine at all. It just kind of ticks all the boxes that a premium console should without difficulty or drama. I can't say it offers a great deal of sonic character but it's exceptionally clean and 'transparent' which allows the detail in a mix to shine through - I don't feel there's any 'smearing' or that it imparts any unpleasant sonic artifacts whatsoever.. How do you think your 3000 compares to the Yamaha? Personally vs my 5000, I think it's six of one and half a dozen of the other. Without meaning to sit on the fence, I think they're different beasts and offer different features (plus my limited outboard is a consideration) so how I approach a mix on the ML is different than that I would on the 02Rs. I should take the same song and do a mix on both then A/B the results maybe..

Done..

A pic of the rack gear currently in use with the ML.. From top to bottom: Yamaha REV500 Yamaha SPX90 (i) Yamaha SPX90 (iii) Behringer MDX2200 (1) Behringer MDX2200 (2) Behringer MDX2200 (3) Behringer MDX2200 (4) I also have a spare comp and gate that I'm not currently using but they're not pictured. [url="http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/DSC_0324_zpsbrgjbyoe.jpg.html"][/url] All working very well indeed - I love it! Still looking out for more compressors and FX as and when but this is cool for now..

I bought a second REV500 although this one is to go with th ML5K setup so I now have the two SPX90s and the new REV500 plus 10 channels of behringer MDX series compression.. [URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/DSC_0321_zpsliazdy2u.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/DSC_0321_zpsliazdy2u.jpg[/IMG][/URL] I'm still liking the idea of a pair of Klark Teknik DN504s too - most likely used as buss compressors.. Al, if you get chance, stick a pic of your ML on.

I can't help with the transformer specs although I read something years ago about Demeter having something to do them? I might have made that up but it's ringing a bell.. On another note, I'd love to see the finished item when it's done and maybe a comparison with my V4 (it's a mk2 so has all the same bells and whistles as the V8) at some point.. Best of luck!

Some lovely pictures there, particularly loving those big '88s!

[quote name='Deedee' timestamp='1491081549' post='3270426'] No, but that doesn't make them any less capable. [/quote] So very true..

Sold my dual stack analog cards so when a Unity card comes up for a decent price, I'll swipe it and bring the 02R at home up to the same spec as the pair at work.. I tried this before but the card was a duff. https://www.facebook.com/Synkronizemedia/ Some newer and older stuff - all mixed on the 02R and all are live recordings ..

[URL=http://s778.photobucket.com/user/VTypeV4/media/DSCN1156.jpg.html][IMG]http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/VTypeV4/DSCN1156.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Is that serious enough? It's rated for ~200w and has a jack socket speaker output.. There seems to be a lot of speculation and a little negativity regarding the Elf however, no-body has actually tried it under 'battle conditons' and those that have had a quick go seem to think it's actually quite good.. The manufacturers can't seem to be clear regarding their figures - for starters they all rate them differently as we well know. If Trace / Peavey would have put it out as a 500w or whatever amp, would it have made it a better product or just satisfied those who buy things because 'they're shiny'..? Or would it have been slated for being 'under-powered for it's rating'? Catch 22... I appreciate that a Speakon connector is a better option (at whatever 'power rating') generally but I really don't see what all the fuss about it is. If it was a 5kW pro-audio power amp then I would certainly question it but in this application, I just don't see the issue.. Personally, I have no desire to purchase the Elf or it's associated cabinets as I'm more than satisfed with my sound and setup - it just seems short-sighted to judge a book by it's cover and associated ISBN number without actually reading it..

Glad your initial impressions are positive, I hope you're as pleased with yours as I am mine..

Any word on the ML, Al?

I've said it a few times (but still haven't done anything about it!) about the CTM100 - they're about the only Ashdown that really interest me. I'd love an A/B with my Trace..