BassTractor

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1456702776' post='2991653'] Hmm... Y'know, some days, I have my doubts... [/quote] Hey! Treat Bill with some respect!

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1456492488' post='2989579'] 'Actor' = unemployed. [/quote] This is exactly the kind of rubbish that's ruining BC these last few decades. Everybody knows that demimondaine street courtesans of the night are not unemployed!

Wow, this is still inspiring, awe-inspiring and frightening, and I love it. I'll have to go to Wiktionary now, and find out about "purfling", "routing", "binding" and "guitar". Thanks again for keeping us updated.

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1456409641' post='2988713'] A Jazz Blues fix. [/quote]

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1456396232' post='2988493'] You have come in twelve bars late. [/quote] You mean he's playing:[color=#ffffff] .. [/color]I - - - I - - - IV - - - I - - - V - IV - I - V - when he should've played:[color=#ffffff] ...[/color] I - - - I - - - IV - - - I - - - V - IV - I - V - ? [quote name='ras52' timestamp='1456396849' post='2988499'] Which would never had happened if you had been looking at YOUR music stand. [/quote]

Every single detail that is recognisable from the terrible pictures makes it seem real, and this also goes for the case. Not one fake I've seen has even looked close to this. They usually get it wrong on the shapes, materials and placement of bridge, pickguard, battery cover (if present at all), print on headstock, plus plus... ...and I've never seen a fake MM in a case that looked exactly like an MM case. If this is fake, then it's fake in the way that some parts have been exchanged, but my personal eye does not spot any such part. Maybe another eye is better. You could always ask some BC person from Liverpool to go with you. Personally, I'd be more wary of who this is and where he wants to meet you than of the Ray itself. Just another reason to take someone with you. What I'd start doing was asking seller for the serial number and ask about that number on the EBMM forum. Membership and log-in first, or ask me to do it for you. There's also a chance you can just find that number in that thread, as someone else may have asked about it earlier. The thread's here: [url="http://forums.ernieball.com/ernie-ball-music-man-basses/1254-music-man-serial-number-database.html"]http://forums.ernieb...r-database.html[/url] Good luck!

It looks sped up to me. That does not mean the drummer is trying to fool anyone. There's a plethora of perfectly alright possible explanations that keep him in the clear. BTW, I know they can play this fast, have no reason to distrust them, and just thought the uploader was a fanboi or someone trying to pull some legs.

...but ....but... that first vid [b]is[/b] sped up! Now, I know that I might be wrong about this, but I'm still convinced it really is. Just look at the movements in their garments, as well as some unnatural movements in their arms and fingers. I realise it might be my connection or certain YT artefacts, but I'm not aware having seen the same in other vids. Combining this notion with the IMHO strange sound ideals in the production, leads me to think that it might sound a lot better at slightly slower speed.

"Better hang up your bass. Bass is simply not for you. You're too much of an intelligent, well-educated, calm, friendly and modest guy. You'd be better off in a central, but still serving role, supporting the song and letting others shine..."

This is the lesbian porn of music. Two for the price of one, and you're spared from having to watch singers and guitards. I love it.

I concur with xgsjx's report on HP laptops. We had three expensive ones, and as far as laptops go, they all were the biggest letdowns we've owned. Strangely though, my mom's ultra cheap Compaq (which is an HP) just works beautifully, is silent. IME, the laptops that have given most and demanded the least have been Asus ones. They also had and have a smart cooling system that tends to not clog and is silent. However, my newest £750 Asus (w.2.7 GHz i5, which may be too low for DAW, Idunno) is more noisy and has an annoying pitch. I'll have to open it and go through its innards. One aspect I feel may be important to the OP is how often and how long the laptop must work off the battery. I'm told that fast processors that also use little energy are budgetbreakingly expensive. This may be corrected by someone else, but I found it worth mentioning. Apart from RAM amount and a fast processor, I've found that using SSD instead of an harddisk has had a major impact on perceived speed, but I do not know whether it would have any impact in a typical use of a DAW. The DAW might be able to keep everything in RAM without swapping. Worth investigating though, I think.

You're Manbass, imposter!

[quote name='ped' timestamp='1455901610' post='2983520'] And the man above is an imposter and shouldn't be trusted - with a bass or a tractor [/quote] Bah! Just give me a few months, and I'll have a [b]fantastic[/b] comeback to this. You shall tremble! Disregards, Chris

Agreed. One can simply not remember it all, and one can feel a certain closeness to certain songs, and erroneously think the closeness is from having played on it. I don't believe at all that she does this deliberately. Me, I'm on probably 4 to 6 songs on a certain recording, and [b]nobody[/b] knows who played exactly what. Even listening carefully to style, we could not find it out at all. Again and again it was a case of: "this could be A or B, but thinking about it, C also plays like this sometimes".

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1455895009' post='2983412'] Our drummer is always latency! [/quote] Best sig I've read in a long time, right up there with the "derogatory first" one.

You're welcome, Wiggy. Don't mention it. Slightly embarrassed, Chris

Several years after having had many sales ads (both private and for my firm) on a Norse website, I still get contacted about them. IME, there's a clear division as to who the prospective buyers are: - Some didn't have the money for one certain item at the time, and they desperately started saving, praying to the gods the item would't get sold in the mean time. Some of them offer a higher price if I'm willing to set it aside for them and wait. - Some are only interested in buying extremely cheap stuff from desperate people, and they always start contacting you two weeks after the ad was removed, only asking if there's any stuff left that has not been sold - not asking about one specific product from that ad. After that, they'll follow up with ultra short e-mails once every few months - sometimes for years. To me this only means one has to decide on the course of action beforehand, and stick to that plan. Know your market and its dynamics, and be reasonable in your expectations. This takes time. But yeah, I too have had offers twice the asking price after I'd already made a deal with someone else. They'd go "Can't you just phone him saying the deal is off? Or that you found a fingerprint? I'll pay you twice that! I'll be there in fifteen minutes!". The deal however is sacred. They should've phoned earlier.

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[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1455668142' post='2981408'] That's great. Don't worry about looking for the info, I assumed the seller was part of the Ernie Ball PDN. I did look at Sweetwater who have some nice neck-through Ray's, but I think I'm going to go with the one at ProMusicTools. Thanks for taking the time to explain what you went through. Much appreciated. [/quote] Okeydokey. Be aware that if Sweetwater do decide to sell a new bass to you, which then is in breach of their contract, then EBMM will not accept your registration for the bass, and you will not be covered by EBMM's part of the warranty responsibilities. I have asked several US PDN dealers to send me a bass or even several basses, me accepting the lack of warranty, and they all refused without hesitation. BTW, I'm sending you a PM.

Yup. The first two deals were problem free, if long-winded and unlike other web shopping. This may have changed in the mean time though. The basses themselves were perfect, and arrived undamaged, well set-up and even in tune. I can't remember the seller's name, and all the info is in my broken laptop, but I can try and find the box tomorrow. However, if it's a Music Man you're after, and if it's new, then that shop can't help. They're not a Music Man dealer, and at any rate Music Man dealers are not allowed to sell new basses to other areas the first two years of having the bass in stock. Mine was used (even if it was built the week before - probably a sad story there). (This is where the NOS thing happened: the EBMM guy had forgotten the two year clause in the contract, and so incorrectly concluded either a breach of contract had taken place when a US bass got sold by a Munich shop, or the bass was second hand.) Edit: The "two years" clause in the contract does not go for regular basses, which can never be sold to other areas, but only for presumed risky lim.ed. ones, like for example the Kermit green Dargie Delight series.

[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1455651376' post='2981200'] Mmm. This presumably wasn't anything top do with the "other" scenario you had regarding the NOS instrument? In the absence of others weighing in, I think I might be prepared to regard the above as an unlucky occurrence which hopefully won't be repeated for me. Could I ask how long ago this was? [/quote] It was the very same bass (in 2013 if I can trust you ), but I do trust the bad packaging had no relation with the NOS thing. Probably just an inexperienced employee cutting corners without realising the impacts the bass has to endure during transport. The resulting customer service may well have had something to do with the NOS thing. I'm only human, and so are the folks in Munich. People's glasses can get coloured after such incidents, and maybe I was seen as a difficult customer by then, even though it was EBMM's initiative to warn me rather than to contact ProMusicTools. Me too, I'd wager a guess that this incident was very special and not something that ProMusicTools have planned on repeating with other customers. I'd guess you are safe, but felt I could not just sit still and not tell you what I'd experienced. Also, the bassic.ch experiences are not about packaging and/or warranty claims. They are about visiting the shop. I think it's reasonable to suspect that one person in the firm has issues, not the whole firm. . I guess they're safe to order from, but I'd still make sure they know you expect them to make sure the bass can't move within its case. Incidentally, my next Music Man came from the USA, and that firm had a page explaining exactly how they packaged, and one of their principles was exactly that: using bubble wrap around the body of the bass in such a way that the knobs have leeway, but the body has not.

Sorry for derailing a perfectly enjoyable thread, but yes. Meaning: two or three people on here have admitted, after long interrogations, to having been or being a copper. That said: you did not state what goal, aim or purpose you have with this thread. That, in my book, is highly suspect. I think [b]the butler[/b] made you do it. Him, or reverend Green, with a lead pipe, in the billiard room.

There may also be a follow-up thread about what happened afterwards, but I can't find one. So here's the fatty skinny: 1) I've ordered from them three times. Prices are high, but they do tend to have rare, sought after items, and they do inspect and set up every bass very carefully before shipping. 2) My last Music Man bass from them was erroneously packaged without protection between bass and Music Man case, leaving the bass to move around inside the case. Also, they had put the case in a much larger Fender corrugated board box without filling the void adequately, allowing the Music Man case to move freely within the Fender box. Thirdly, they'd put on the address sticker in such a way that if one had the sticker in reading position, the bass inside would be standing on its headstock. The obvious result of all of this was that the bass had gotten its volume knob knocked off during transport. ProMusicTools initially would not accept any responsibility for this, and instead meant this was due to stupid consumer error, which got me fuming. When they finally did accept responsibility after I'd thoroughly documented how badly they had packaged this time, it took them [b]more than a year[/b] before they sent me the new pot I would solder in myself (I had offered to do this myself in order to save them the hassle as well as the shipping costs both ways). Several of my polite mails during that year remained unanswered, and my last, very clear and very strict one a whole year later (still polite, mind, just factual and strict) that stated I would complain about them to Music Man, resulted in an enormously butthurt answer and in the pot arriving here within a few days. No apology or anything like it. I remained flabbergasted. I saved them on postage twice and offered to take responsibility for the repair, and all they mustered was being butthurt by me saying their customer service was unacceptable to me. 3) the German spoken Swiss bass chat site bassic.ch has a forum where people tend to tell stories about rather creepy experiences with the firm when meeting up in person, leading me to believe the firm are best dealt with as a webshop. In summing up: in my experience they're very good when there's no problem, but they show their private personal issues very clearly when not everything is perfect anymore.

[quote name='operative451' timestamp='1455618623' post='2980667'] 'proper' blues of the 'Disability-Fruit-Surname' variety [/quote] But don't be so narrowminded! It can be a vegetable as well! Oh, and extra points if <surname> is a former US president. [b]Blind Lemon Jefferson[/b] is a classic of course, one of many classics, and both Lemon and Jefferson were even his real names. I'm Slantin' Banana Clinton, but I can't explain that one without the help of... er... that woman... Miss Lew. Er... Liverpool. Grip. Beatles. Carry on!

Congrats! I'm very curious to hear your findings.