Wolverinebass

I'd get a Dean Edge. At the budget end, it's the best one. If Dood is talking about the Spector 8 string that they had at the recent bass show, I'd avoid. The neck profile is wrong as its just a thin C neck with 8 strings. At 1.65 inch at the nut your hand will bunch up. Lastly, the active eq I found to be lacking. Okay, it was only £400 or so, but it was still just a 4 string neck with 8 strings and more than a tad pants. I say that and I like Spectors. If you were really wanting a conversion, get the neck from warmoth and Schaller 471 bridge. Job done.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1458585830' post='3008880'] Yep... deadly serious but don't ask why, I can't be ar$ed to explain it, tbh. [/quote] Classic. Have you played one to experience the options of the pickups yourself? If not, what are you talking about? On what basis or evidence is this statement built on? You've just put a couple of "meh" comments on someone's nbd thread. What's that all about? On the other hand, I'm sure the op is dying to know why he's wrong to have bought such a gimmicky bass.

[quote name='ped' timestamp='1458510130' post='3008254'] Thanks, that makes sense. So I guess there's still a truss rod? I'm just interested in the tech - not many people manufacturing graphite necks now Cheers ped [/quote] There was indeed a truss rod. I share your concern about lack of graphite instruments. Not in fashion it would seem. It'll come back round though once it's figured out how to making tooling cheaper. If that ever happens.

[quote name='ped' timestamp='1458483245' post='3007927'] So the graphite wrap necks - are they stable or is the wrap mainly for looks? [/quote] I tried one with a graphite neck at last year's bass show. When I spoke to Martin Sims, he suggested that it wasn't for looks but for a marginally different sound. I could tell the difference between it and a wood necked version. The impression I got was that he felt that the low end of full graphite necked instruments sounded compressed and there was maybe a bit too much 6kHz. I know what he means by that of course, but it just depends if you like that or not. With the wrap those characteristics were there but a bit more muted. Besides, after playing your Vigier why would you need another graphite necked bass? I thought it was fantastic!!

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1457970561' post='3003505'] This is a bit disappointing to hear... Not that I'd want to put a downer on anyones day it sounds like a great time was had by all. But I'm only really interested in the trade stands, not really bothered about talks / masterclasses etc. [/quote] I bumped into Paul Herman yesterday actually. Obviously not on a stand. Not that he needs to advertise with a 2 year waiting list these days for a Wal and good for him as he's such a nice guy.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1457970561' post='3003505'] This is a bit disappointing to hear... Not that I'd want to put a downer on anyones day it sounds like a great time was had by all. But I'm only really interested in the trade stands, not really bothered about talks / masterclasses etc. [/quote] I bumped into Paul Herman yesterday actually. Obviously not on a stand. Not that he needs to advertise with a 2 year waiting list these days for a Wal and good for him as he's such a nice guy.

But the main question is "what would John Hall do?"

£750 for a 1x12?!! Pfft. Jog on pal. That's just tonto.

That's awful.

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1457640569' post='3000590'] Gosh. What are Mesa prices going to be like with the exchange rate then!? [/quote] I shudder to think. This almost makes Tech 21 prices look reasonable.

Going on Sunday. Will dig out my lanyard! Hopefully see a few of you there.

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1457373317' post='2997916'] It's got the usual Andy Baxter "add 40% to what it's actually worth" thing happening. [/quote] Ha! Total genius! 😃 Completely agree.

About 9 years ago I took my buzzard to Rob to get something looked at. We were talking about the streamline (which was the newest model at that time) and Rob said that he'd be doing a bass something like the buzzard next. Since then there has been 4 kingbasses (do we need 9 variants? Really?!!), the S3, and Chris Wolstenholme's. So much for anything new as they're just small tweaks on existing designs. Now this. It's like the buzzard crossed with the series 2 and not in a good way. The shape is just a bit odd. Probably better photos might do it justice. I don't know. For those of you who think that the shape of the buzzard is stupid, you're correct. The headstock it just stupidly unwieldy. However, ergonomically it's fantastic. The upper wing if you rest your forearm on it will relax your wrist enabling more dexterous playing. A few folk on the forum have played mine and some have been Entwistle fans, some not. Even the ones who thought the shape stupid changed their mind once they'd played it. I would like to say that this new model will be the same, but I guess only time will tell.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1456654383' post='2990998'] I saw an advert on gumtree last week for a bass player and the ad said that you'd didn't have to be any good or own a bass, the most important thing was that you could bring people to gigs... [/quote] I saw that advert as well Rob. I'm not sure if I was crying with laughter at it or just at my seemingly wasted life. There was me under the misguided apprehension that you should practice and progress as a musician. If only I'd known that all it took to succeed in the music business was to be popular with my high school year and have lots of likes on "the book of faces."

I bought my Hamer 12 string off them. They were great to deal with.

Tech 21 are having a laugh with this. Despite the fact I truly love their stuff and my psa 1.1 is my favourite preamp of all time, it's not enough to get away from the feeling that we're being done. Until they sell stuff in the UK at a reasonable price or the value of the dollar sinks substantively, I'm not partaking in this.

Nice work Rob. Proof that with enough will something other than indie or covers can be played. Finding people to do progressive music myself to do something really technical is appalling!! I feel your previous pain. Really enjoyed listening to your stuff. I would pop down and see your gig as it's not very far from me, but I'm seeing Tesseract next Friday. Hope it goes well for you.

This thread has really killed me. I've been laughing so hard my wife thinks that I could have a stroke if I don't stop. On a serious level, it's taken me a while to figure out why it's so funny. It's because it's like a paraphrase of Spinal Tap. I really hope this doesn't come over as trolling as I'm just trying to explain my somewhat non-sensical thoughts. JT has always stated that he and his band are very discerning about what kind of gigs they play. Spinal Tap were 2nd on the bill to a puppet show. From the photo a few pages back it looks like JT's band were playing 2nd to the FA Cup replay of Crewe vs Scunthorpe judging by the plasma screen in the background. It also has echoes of the "lick my love pump" scene. When mentioning to musician friends what JT expects from a venue in terms of payment, professional PA and class of band, friends ask where his band could be playing assuming it to be somewhere large and well known. "The Tickled Trout." Famously Spinal Tap had amps which went to 11. In JT's case the PA must be able to handle Wembley stadium without breaking a sweat. It all seems vastly silly which is why I find this thread hysterical in the extreme. I hasten to add I've never heard JT or his band play and my comments are based on the absurdity of this thread rather than some form of comment on his or their playing or such.

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1453966919' post='2964667'] I hope regardless of the pa and sound guys requests we can all agree that the main thing above all is that the performance is good, if you play songs with a good hook you should get the venue full to the gills and net yourself a return gig? [/quote] And the trout jokes just keep on coming! I love this thread. Just genius.

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1453938030' post='2964573'] Still rumbling on re some cash back for the general inconvenience. Warwick have moved from replacement pickguard plus full refund inc. postage; to replacement pickguard with part refund; to we'll refund the postage. I did offer to split the whole thing 50/50 but apprently not. [/quote] Oh, come on! How about the fillings out of your teeth as well?!! Warwick showing that they are now coming in a close 2nd to Rickenbacker for patronising customer service awards. Beyond a joke.

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1453803754' post='2962804'] Tickled Trout sound crew. [/quote] Please stop it! I'm laughing so hard I think I might swallow my tongue! It's just the "tickled trout" name of the pub as well. Just conjures up all sorts of very silly images!

[quote name='bjelkeman' timestamp='1453491202' post='2960065'] It does make sense, from the point of view that Doug likes locally produced. I also seem to remember Tommy telling me he had found the speaker cloth, similar to what is on my TKS W2126s, from a different supplier for a different customer. But, I can't remember if I saw a speaker with that on his FB page. (Maybe I am remembering that wrong.) The fact that Doug has a Mesa Carbine, and Mayones bass in the workshop is a hint we have similar taste. My cabs. [url=https://flic.kr/p/hL2TTa][/url] [/quote] Lovely rig, squire.

[quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1453574931' post='2960741'] Saw him at The Cutting Room in New York last May. Turned up mid-afternoon to pick up tickets (as we'd done them online from the UK) and they were loading in. (Corey Glover was the headliner.) Had a very long chat with dUg's tech guy and a guy from Tech21. I was expressing my love for Tech21 stuff and the dUg head came into the venue at which point I nearly jizzed. The guy from T21 was saying how expensive it was to configure heads for Europe and they just needed a minimum order before they'd even try and do it. Much as I'd love one, I believe I could probably emulate the tone for a lot less than £2,000! Shame! [/quote] For that money Tech21 can shove it. The clean tone on it is ropey. Had it been a preamp with midi savable pot settings I'd be in there, but it doesn't and to me it's vastly overpriced.

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1453618247' post='2961024'] You`ll notice a real difference Jim, mainly on the highs. I used to use Markbass (got a lovely sound, especially with a Precision imo) and it`s amazing the amount of high their cabs roll-off. [/quote] Did you have the tweeter on maximum Lozz? Just curious.

They look lovely.