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[quote name='ahpook' post='218055' date='Jun 13 2008, 01:02 AM']i pair up my ampeg svp-pro with a soundtech ps802 and i love it. 1U and ~16lbs. the only down side is that the fans are quite loud, not an issue live, but noticeable at home.[/quote] Hmm...that's interesting mate! Do you have the specs or rough pricing on how much one would be? Just googled it and can't find much! Coasterbass: Pm me some details please mate!

Hello everyone, Well, following on from my many other threads about gear at the moment i'm needing some help with power amps if that's ok... I've just got my SVP-Pro pre-amp, so that's all sorted! Now i need some power, don't need anything silly, just enough to fill medium sized venues, so bars, clubs, music venues...erm, the odd festival (although i'd D.I). I need something that will help me get that awesome Ampeg tone out there. I'd prefer a 1U power amp if at all possible, but i guess it's not essential. Price wise, i'm hoping to keep costs down. Dood's Powersoft would be awesome but too pricey unfortunately. Hope some of you can give me some suggestions... Thanks Jamie

[quote name='6stringbassist' post='218047' date='Jun 13 2008, 12:44 AM']Actually if you look on the Thomman website, the 2x12 is actually very reasonably priced, it certainly compares well with Bergantino and Epifani. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/warwick_jh_hc_212_hellborg_hi_cab.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/warwick_jh_hc_212...borg_hi_cab.htm[/url][/quote] I think it's more a question of power though...200 watts @ 4 ohms. I think that's quite poor!

That's why i was in touch with him...about a pre-amp, trying to get the Fodera tone. I guess i should just save up and get the real thing like a certain fellow basschatter lol!

[quote name='mcgraham' post='217872' date='Jun 12 2008, 07:42 PM']You've inspired me to get back into Hiromi's stuff and transcribing it. Her group sounds soooo much fuller now she has an electric guitar in it.[/quote] I got one of her earlier albums a while back - 'Another Mind'. I've not yet listened to it all that much. From what i have heard though, i prefer the more recent stuff. Listening to Weather Report - Heavy Weather, and Mike Stern - Voices at the moment...oh, and The RH Factor - Hard Groove. All wicked albums!

Happy Jack - Notice what i said about the stage i'm at, i was asking for novice advice, but rather advice that would help and experienced player to overcome the next hurdle! I'll certainly send him a collective thanks...i sent him many kind words of thanks initially as well!!!

I use Dr Bass cabs and i too am considering a 2460. I have an RX210 and RX1260 (the little brother of the 2460)...the 1260 i have is awesome, and i have no doubts that the 2460 would be equally so!!! Don't be put off by the low price tag, they're a contender without any doubt!

All very interesting stuff guys!!! Thanks for the thoughts!

[quote name='mcgraham' post='217374' date='Jun 12 2008, 09:02 AM']Those are indeed encouraging words. Really good of him to take the time to correspond with you. Some of us do get caught up in just sheer technicality without any musicality, others become complacent/content with 'nice' music and never bother to improve their technical facility which should in turn serve their music. Either way, it's important to remember that exercises and technical ability are not an end in themselves, but just a means to an end, the end being creating music and saying something musically. Mark[/quote] Yeah Mark, wise words...you're good at that I think what moved me the most with regards to what Mike wrote was that he high lighted the need to just make music to improve. Not to get bogged down in all the rudaments etc. But it's helped me to take a different view of my technical pursuits, i'm trying to apply them as soon as i can now, rather than just rigidly practice them over and over out of context. Mark - what helped you to get your head into all the Hiromi stuff, and to develop your ability in order to play all of that?

[quote name='Finbar' post='217332' date='Jun 12 2008, 01:53 AM']I can answer that for you as soon as I get a new cab to hook mine up through! Don't know when you'll have yours up and running? To be honest though, it won't sound like an SVT. The SVP can only ever give you preamp distortion, unlike a full blown SVT, which will give poweramp distortion too. I'm still interested to see what mine will sound like as well! [/quote] Ahh...but you see, i'm not after distortion!!! Not to that extent anyway. Although i must admit, when i've cranked it up and it's given me some growl i have been rather fond of it I'm playing funk and jazz mainly, so warmth is what i want!!!

[quote name='bass_ferret' post='217319' date='Jun 12 2008, 12:47 AM']A good way is to sing harmonies, hum them in your head if you like, then learn to play what you are humming. Its not easy and I am too lazy to persevere TBH, but learning to play what you hear in your head is worth doing if you want to master the melodic side of playing.[/quote] I've been working on that for a while...my vocal abilities alone have sky rocketed, but the only application to bass so far has been that i'm able to find the notes i'm hear/singing quicker. Which is obviously a good thing!

[b][center]* just posted this in the general forum but thought it'd sit in here too *[/center][/b] Hello everyone, I've been in contact with Mike Pope this week. For those of you who don't know who he is, he's one of the top players over the US, based in NY i think. He's well known within the Double Bass circles, but he's also an awesome electric bass player...he's pretty hot at this game to say the lease. He's also the guy he designs and manufactures the pre-amps found in the Fodera basses. Google him... Sorry for that if you already knew of him. Anyway, i've been in touch about pre-amps, but I though i'd take the chance to ask him some questions about harmony and technique. To briefly explain...it seems to me that most top players who i've asked, or heard other people ask about harmony, getting better etc...they all seem to say stuff like get to a college, practice 6 hours a day, do loads of technique exercises, stuff that i personally find tedious and hard! But i want to get better, to improve. So i but that to him...here's my original message and Mike's reply (i asked him if i can post it, he's cool with it) - Bassjamm: [i]A slight side point, more with regards to playing. I respect your playing a lot, and from the material i have of yours, or with you playing, i really find it interesting. I was wondering what tips you may have for young players looking to master the bass? At the moment i feel my chops are slightly slow, but more so, that my knowledge of harmony is limiting me. I'm in no position to go to college to learn, but i practice at home as often as possible. Do you have any thoughts or excercises that you think would help someone to broaden their knowledge?[/i] And here's what Mike replied with - Mike Pope: [i]As for your harmonic knowledge...use Oteil Burbridge for example. All that complicated harmonic stuff he plays... He doesn't know the first thing about harmony in an academic sense. That certainly doesn't keep him from playing it. So don't get hung up because you don't know what something is. If you can hear it, recognize it, play it, and use it musically, you know what it is. Period. If you need to communicate it to someone else who doesn't get it (naturally anyway), then you need to know what it is. But that's easy once you're actually playing it. So focus on what you want to play and understand it in a way that let's you make music with it. As for agility on your instrument, there are a million books out there with exercises you can use...but the best way to learn your way around your instrument is in an effort to make music. Not, "I wanna sound like Joe Shmoe", but like you're playing a piece of music. Trying to make music in the HERE AND NOW is the best way to get better. Not playing exercises in the interest of making music later.[/i] I just found that really encouraging and felt like it's advice that, if i put it into action (that's the catch), then i'll definately benefit from it. It's already helped me to change the way i view my practice routine, how i view transcription and things. I hope that this will help some of you as much as it has me! Thanks Jamie

Hello everyone, I've been in contact with Mike Pope this week. For those of you who don't know who he is, he's one of the top players over the US, based in NY i think. He's well known within the Double Bass circles, but he's also an awesome electric bass player...he's pretty hot at this game to say the lease. He's also the guy he designs and manufactures the pre-amps found in the Fodera basses. Google him... Sorry for that if you already knew of him. Anyway, i've been in touch about pre-amps, but I though i'd take the chance to ask him some questions about harmony and technique. To briefly explain...it seems to me that most top players who i've asked, or heard other people ask about harmony, getting better etc...they all seem to say stuff like get to a college, practice 6 hours a day, do loads of technique exercises, stuff that i personally find tedious and hard! But i want to get better, to improve. So i but that to him...here's my original message and Mike's reply (i asked him if i can post it, he's cool with it) - Bassjamm: [i]A slight side point, more with regards to playing. I respect your playing a lot, and from the material i have of yours, or with you playing, i really find it interesting. I was wondering what tips you may have for young players looking to master the bass? At the moment i feel my chops are slightly slow, but more so, that my knowledge of harmony is limiting me. I'm in no position to go to college to learn, but i practice at home as often as possible. Do you have any thoughts or excercises that you think would help someone to broaden their knowledge?[/i] And here's what Mike replied with - Mike Pope: [i]As for your harmonic knowledge...use Oteil Burbridge for example. All that complicated harmonic stuff he plays... He doesn't know the first thing about harmony in an academic sense. That certainly doesn't keep him from playing it. So don't get hung up because you don't know what something is. If you can hear it, recognize it, play it, and use it musically, you know what it is. Period. If you need to communicate it to someone else who doesn't get it (naturally anyway), then you need to know what it is. But that's easy once you're actually playing it. So focus on what you want to play and understand it in a way that let's you make music with it. As for agility on your instrument, there are a million books out there with exercises you can use...but the best way to learn your way around your instrument is in an effort to make music. Not, "I wanna sound like Joe Shmoe", but like you're playing a piece of music. Trying to make music in the HERE AND NOW is the best way to get better. Not playing exercises in the interest of making music later.[/i] I just found that really encouraging and felt like it's advice that, if i put it into action (that's the catch), then i'll definately benefit from it. It's already helped me to change the way i view my practice routine, how i view transcription and things. I hope that this will help some of you as much as it has me! I think i'll post this in the Technique and harmony forum too... Thanks Jamie

It's all very interesting stuff!!! I think i'd try it out if given the chance, but by the sounds of it, it's not worth going out of my way for!

Keith...you have a pm! Yeah, i've loving the SVP...been messing around with it all night! I'm going to have a tinker with it tomorrow again, hopefully A/B'ing it properly against my SVT-II. I've rigged up my mixer so i can take a D.I out of both pre-amps and listen to them both through the same mixer and headphones. Not ideal, but at least it reduces the variables! Any thoughts on what it'd sound like through a Power-amp...would i be able to get my SVT's sound?

[quote name='Mr Bassman' post='217161' date='Jun 11 2008, 08:16 PM']Harrogate, about 30 minutes from Leeds[/quote] Ooo...very interesting! Went there with Geoff to see Wayne Shorter play at the Jazz festival last year That's cool though!!! I'll certainly get in touch if i'm up that way if it's ok? How do you find it sounds though?

[quote name='Mr Bassman' post='217057' date='Jun 11 2008, 05:32 PM']I've got an SVT-11P if you want to try it. I'm in North Yorkshire, where are you?[/quote] Oooo...interesting!!! Might have to take you up on that! I'm in Grantham, Lincs, but i'm due a visit to see Geoff (geoffbassist) off here, he's in Leeds...how far from Leeds are you?

I'm trying to A/B the 2 pre-amps the same power stage, but not at the same time. So SVP into Hartke, play away, then SVT into Hartke, no play...doesn't want to send a signal!!! Or, play the SVT as normal, then try the SVP through the SVT's power stage by-passing the SVT's pre-amp...but this creates a lot of electronic interferance...me no like!!! One thing i want to know, and i'd appreciate honest thoughts. The SVP...will it give me the same tone as my SVT when used with a solid-state power-amp?

[quote name='Mikey D' post='216794' date='Jun 11 2008, 12:46 PM']It was part of the Sligo Jazz Project over in Ireland. This year they have got Reggie Washington teaching.[/quote] Ooooo...nice!!! Have you heard him with Roy Hargroves...awesome bassist!

Take the A Train is a II-V-I i think...or Satin Doll, one or the other, and most people know them! Also, a bit groovier, but Chameleon, or So What...and another nice little one, well known too is Blue Bossa.

Jase - Still waiting to hear back from the fella!!! It certainly is a nice sound though guys! I messaged Dan earlier (previous owner) telling him i was loving it. I find it's a bit cleaner, well, i think it sounds a bit different anyway...from my SVT II that is. I got the SVT back last night though, and the new pre-amp valves have given it some real nice tones. It sounded awesome before...but now...oooopphhhhh!!! It's almost a tailor made amp for my tastes, the highs aren't as bitey as they were, they're there, and beautiful, but not as zingy to the point of 'uhhhh'...now they're yummy. The SVP pre sounds like my SVT did before the service, in that, the highs need rolling off. But...as you say Coaster...it does everything BIGGER!!! It does sound bigger, top notch i say!!! Still keen on the idea of the SVT-IIP though Quick question guys...i don't have a power-amp yet. I've got my SVT, and a Hartke HA2000...how can i get the best A/B between the 2 Ampeg pre-amps from that setup? I've run the SVP through my SVT, and i get some electronic interferance which is causing an almighty great 'hum'...but a bit volume cranking soon sees that off Thanks Jam

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='216758' date='Jun 11 2008, 12:13 PM']The stage is a very crude listening environment, I think that all the refinements on offer here would probably be completely lost unless I was doing a solo acousitic gig.[/quote] There we have...the future of the bass guitar Hehe...totally understand what you're saying there mate!!!