Chrismanbass

yeh it depends entirely upon the sound guy but running one extra channel takes exactly 2 seconds and if you've even given him a suggestion on how to mix it moving on from that would be to turn up with a lead and a stand so he has nothing to do this is what really frustrates me about other sound engineers and gives the rest of us who actually give a sh*t (yes there are a few of us about) a bad name

[quote name='operative451' timestamp='1389614861' post='2336058'] So to mildly hijack this thread a bit - IED are looking to do our first 'proper' gigs - we both have mostly virtual kit and like it that way! If i were to turn up with my 'rig' as is: a bunch of pedals (including a sansamp copy) and a DI box, would this make FOH engineers happy or sad? [/quote] yup what he said really you've just got to be careful that all your pedals are balanced pre gig. [b]to the OP[/b] running a mic and di signal into a little mixer would work and you would send the sound guy a complete signal of how you want it to sound however if it was me engineering the gig i would ask for them separately. the reason for this is that i might decide that theres a part of your sound the mix needs more of at a certain point for example if things are getting a bit muddy then i'd try using a bit of your clean(ish) signal to make you cut through a bit more and vice versa however if i'm being sent a pre mixed signal then i'm limited as to what i can do its more of a set it and leave it deal which is fine as its less work but means i can't get the best possible mix to make the band sound good my best option would be to purchase yourself a nice mic something like a 609 would be great and say to the house sound guy that you'd like to be mic'ed because it helps for your tone to carry across better and if he sets it up to about a 70/30 split on his desk (i think you mentioned that as about your sound earlier in the tread) then work from their this way it appears like you've done your homework you've made his life as easy a possible and he then has the facility to tweak as the room and the mix requires

have you considered this place? [url="http://www.premisesstudios.com/rehearsal-studios/"]http://www.premisesstudios.com/rehearsal-studios/[/url]

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1388871216' post='2327275'] I still reckon you could have a dance around at Ronnie's even if they didn't remove the tables. Just stand at the back with the waiters! Seriously though i do see your point. Ronnie's isn't the cheapest place in town so i'd dance on the tables if i wanted too for those prices. [/quote] I did a gig with Rebirth Brass band at ronnies last year and not only did they have the entire club dancing along (including myself and all of the staff) they had 3 separate stage invasions great vibe and not the sit down with a waiter serving you vibe which happens on some gigs Edit: this was without any of the seats removed

they're back in again sometime this year i believe but i'm not sure when yet

are you coming down? worth checking out the support act bassment project who do a monthly night upstairs

i'm one of the engineers on the gig at ronnies with some bands they take out the tables in the centre of the club and convert that area into a dance floor they did this with average white band and reel people last year i would imagine this is the plan for them too

the BBC pays 90 days after the fact as do John Lewis so its not as uncommon as you think but like its been said above if you've agreed then theres not a lot you can do just make sure you have it iron clad in writing including a payment date from them

Hi guys a little new years present for you all a few weeks ago marcus miller turned up to watch the late show in Ronnie Scotts and eventually got up to jam with the band Fletch's brew (normally the incredible Steve Pearce on bass) they played the billy cobham tune stratus and the recording of that jam has just been featured on the Ronnie Scotts radio podcast for 2013 [url="http://www.mixcloud.com/RonnieScottsRadio/looking-back-ronnie-scotts-2013-irsrs/"]http://www.mixcloud.com/RonnieScottsRadio/looking-back-ronnie-scotts-2013-irsrs/[/url] the segment about Marcus and the interview with him starts at about 50 mins enjoy

sounds awesome mate

Yeh if they're passing them off as they're own work then thats text book plagiarism but yeh that would make them a cover cover band

I figured i should probably try and be helpful on topic as well i've not had any practical experience of the Avalon, however we use Radial DI's at my venue and they're lovely nice and transparent and i've never had a problem with one

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1386937602' post='2306584'] There is so much more to go wrong in the average guitar rig, yet sticking a microphone on the final component in the signal path is done without thinking. Why can't bass players be treated in the same way? [/quote] it depends entirely on context of the gig and what you have to work with for certain types of music or gigs using a clean DI signal is the easiest way to get the bass to come through in a general band mix unfortunately bass mic'ed means that you will pick up a lot of noise from other sources which you would eq out of any other mic which you can't from a bass mic because you'd be cutting at the frequency you actually want to hear the problem is magnified on a small stage because of how close everything is. a mic on a bass cab can work well if there is decent separation between sound sources this is why you would see big touring bands using mic'ed bass cabs on stage as the bass rig is sufficiently far away from other noise sources that the majority of the sound is actually bass, also if there is something specific you want to get out of it for example if the bass player is using lots of effects then they are generally translated better through a mic than a di signal. If and engineer is worth his salt he will speak to you about whats going on in your sound and what equipment your using before soundcheck i've found from experience players generally know their equipment better than i do but i know what works in that room to make the band sound good. i've argued with players before about what to use generally with double bass players about mic/DI signal use, but at the end of the day its the players sound but anyway we're getting back into the pre/post di territory from a few months ago hope that helps to explain why some engineers have an aversion to mic'ing bass cabs

for the amount of money your spending it may be worth looking at alien ears c3's they're moulded and not too much more expensive. i've not had any experience with the 535's but i have a pair of 215's as a backup set of in ears and they're awesome for the money i paid for them

na shouldn't do thats only if you over power speakers so for example using a 900w head on 700w cabs tbh using your ears is the best bet the speakers will fart out if your head is too powerful

slighly less volume than the cabs are able to produce tbh thats about it

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1385835356' post='2292728'] I recall reading about a well known music producer (can't remember his name but was in the SAW/Cowell league) who would insist on doing something similar to get on the credits list so that he could get a share of the royalties. [/quote] i heard about pete waterman doing a similar thing

So i've just recorded finger clicks on a friend of mines album and it turns out that i get a credit as a musician as ancillary percussion Im not playing bass as well but the funny thing is that i get paid the same amount of PPL royalties if it gets released as the proper musicians easiest money i've ever earned

reverb on bass is generally a bad idea as it tends to add to the general muddiness of the sound unless your soloing when it can be a kinda cool effect i would steer well clear if it sounds good to you it might be time to engage your DFA switch

if i remember rightly there was a fourum member who does a commute from portsmouth to london daily that took my hard case down to jimmy for the relay if you can get it from portsmouth to somewhere in london i could get it over to kingston for you?

haha there are several of us were all lovely people really come say hi next time your in oh and were fuelled by beer too

no i wasn't working last night might see if i can sneak in tonight and catch a bit of the show though

[quote name='tedmanzie' timestamp='1384977162' post='2283091'] Ha! I wondered what happened, i was sitting behind the piano in the last row so all i heard was a very loud crack and then the bass losing its proper sound. i saw you rushing on to fix it and then all was great! What a great job to have! Sound was very good from where I was sat (bass was great), the piano was a tiny bit quiet compared to the bass but no big deal (is the piano also amplified?). I thought the first tune, then first tune after the interval (Povo?) and in particular 'My Favourite Things' were genuinely amazing, although it was all excellent. They're all on a different level and totally blew me away in places. I enjoyed the 'soul hits' of course but soul medleys played by world class Jazzers are not really for me. I wanted another mind bending musical journey... [/quote] Yeh my favourite things was great tbh i'm not too sure on names of stuff either but i was talking to the drummer after the show and he was saying its funny playing with christian because you forget sometimes how much of an incredible player he is and that some of the stuff he does nobody else can do

sorry not tried any of them so can't help on that front, but their website looks like a giant lawsuit waiting to happen

I still don't believe i get paid to do it mate i've met some amazing people and seen some phenomenal gigs