Chrismanbass

Had a couple of hours to kill on a plane this weekend so watched this In general the BBC mix wasn't too bad (hot tip the R3 mix is generally better for these kinds of things according to my friend working on the gig) actually listening on my headphones (AT ATH M50's) the bass sounded too prominent in the mix and I wasn't a fan of the tone. Some dodgy playing from SC IMO as well he seemed to get taken by surprise about soloing during the band intros section and there was a fluff in the intro to soul man too. James Morrison was a surprise highlight for me, I'm not a fan of TJ at the best of times and to hear that he's not very well doesn't surprise me. Quite a few faces in the band I recognised from working at Ronnies all top players so the excuse that they were under rehearsed doesn't really ring true to me. What seems more likely is that the older faces are used to freestyling gigs a bit more and threw them a curveball while on stage causing the band to have to react which with a bigger ensemble like that isn't an easy thing to do.

agreed hole stopper would be my first port of call alternatively have a look at a graphic eq pedal which would give you the ability to notch out the troublesome frequencies

[quote name='Fabrocker' timestamp='1496183068' post='3309462'] Hello Chris, we forgot about mic for audience, that's our first live rec. Thanks! [/quote] awesome job in that case its a really good recording something to rememeber for the next one chris

Nice! love the band the lack of any ambience makes the whole thing sound a bit weird to me theres no crowd noise at all which makes it feel like there's no atmosphere at the gig which judging by the pictures isn't the case at all other than that a solid metal mix with a really tight band don't know if you were looking for comments or not but just my 2c worth Chris

maybe something to do with having to use open strings for a certain riff to make it work for example Living on a prayer in any key other than Em doesn't flow properly to me as theres always a small jump between the first two notes of the line but i've always done it in EM or Ebm (tuned half step down) so never been an issue but for simply transposing there shouldn't be any excuse really but hey if it works for people then who am I to judge

[quote name='tinyd' timestamp='1495015690' post='3300412'] I'm no sound engineer so I could be way off, but it bugs me that the kit in general these days is often mixed almost as if it's a set of separate instruments. [/quote] This!!!! treat the drum kit as a complete instrument and you have none of these problems Overheads up first and then fill in what you can't hear with spot mics is the way i've always been taught to do it [quote name='Dropzone' timestamp='1495014279' post='3300392'] Every time I hear the house engineer that is all you get. [/quote] IME even support bands on major gigs bring their own engineer now (size dependant obviously) also you have to remember that the house engineer has only heard that band that evening and is "busking" the set dependant on what they can hear. A band engineer will have spent months getting the bands sound right will have far more sway with the band on backline positioning, tone and most importantly volume all of which can make a MASSIVE difference in smaller venues i've seen and done things like pointing a particularly offensive sounding amp off into the wings to save the ears of the front row of audience members, putting up perspex around drummers and generally offering advice about backline tone with bands that i've worked with. I'm fairly sure that if i suggested these things with a lot of bands when I've been the house engineer (FYI I try and get the best mix for each band I encounter so If I'm suggesting stuff like this its not for my benefit) I'd be met with arguments and dubious looks at best

nothing wrong with shure 215's gigged them as in ear monitors and they were fine the cables are a tad brittle (I went through 3 pairs in a year my westones have been subject to the same abuse and are fine) one thing I would say from experience is that if you can spare the cash then go for the 315's they're just that little bit nicer and clearer in the high mids without being harsh (a problem with the 215's IMO) more drivers will obviously make a difference whether its £100 difference I can't say as I've not listened to them I would also recommend westone as a company I currently run the 4R (quad driver) as my in ears, but they're probably a bit overkill and definitely over your stated budget (but very nice) Westone do the UM pro series which are nice and reliable (able to be coiled round you hand and shoved into pockets) and IMO knock spots off the shures in terms of sound the UM pro 10's are single driver at £104 [url="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Westone-UM-Pro-Clear-Earphones/dp/B00EXN4GK0"]https://www.amazon.co.uk/Westone-UM-Pro-Clear-Earphones/dp/B00EXN4GK0[/url] or the UM pro 20's are dual driver at 209 [url="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Westone-20-Earphones-10-Screw-Detachable-Transparent/dp/B00FKXZE5I/ref=pd_lpo_23_tr_t_2/262-2277961-4718451?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=EP3WKHGM1H6XN5A9DGVR"]https://www.amazon.co.uk/Westone-20-Earphones-10-Screw-Detachable-Transparent/dp/B00FKXZE5I/ref=pd_lpo_23_tr_t_2/262-2277961-4718451?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=EP3WKHGM1H6XN5A9DGVR [/url]

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1492424861' post='3280077'] It's not the cabs that count, it's the electrical connection between the speakers. Most amps, and many cabs, have two outputs, wired in parallel. Connecting a 4 ohm cab to each of these would, indeed, give a 2 ohm load to the amp, whether using the amp connectors or the cab connectors (ie: daisy-chained...). However, with the use of a specially-cabled series box connected to the amp, the cabs (and thus their speakers...) can be made to be electrically in series, showing a 8 ohm load to the amp. It's not that common, but has no danger to the amp. The solution will work just fine, and the overall sound will be fuller, and so seem slightly louder. [/quote] Indeed upon doing some research on the subject I realised that the speaker connectors are wired so that they're parallel and thus deleted my incorrect comment this is what lead to the earlier confusion about amp loading in my first post thanks for bearing with me everyone Chris

have a read of the impedance thread in the amps and cabs section I think you've either posted wrong or misunderstood if you have one cab at 4 Ohms and add a second cab at 4 Ohms the Load will be 2 Ohms not 8 Ohms this will cause damage to your amp due to it pushing out too much power with too little resistance which can lead to overheating issues (assuming that your amp wont run down to a 2 Ohm load if its the Markbass in your signature then I know it won't as I own one) what you need is either one 4 Ohm cabinet or 2 8Ohm cabinets to create a total load of 4Ohms which is the minimum resistance its designed to work at in reality more speaker area means more air moving but also less power going to each speaker I've used extra cabs in the past (1x15 under my 2x10) but its more for tonal reasons than actual extra power again apologies if I've misinterpreted your post and the confusion is just a typo

anyone going to or been to this? I'm working this gig and it would be great to hear from any basschatters in I've got to say he's incredible holding it down all night with just flashes of sheer brilliance also it helps that he's a lovely guy to boot for anyone that hasn't come across him check this out [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yVBniL-hyg"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yVBniL-hyg[/url]

Hi James narrowing down a budget makes things a lot easier but if budget is truly open ended then have a look at the Yamaha DSR series of speakers I've used them on countless gigs with one of the sound companies i work for they're awesome and pretty indestructible the 15's have enough balls to handle most things inc kick drum and bass and they sound good out of the box without having to do much tweaking (which is my main bug bear with a lot of active speakers) [url="https://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_dsr_115.htm?ref=search_prv_6"]https://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_dsr_115.htm?ref=search_prv_6 [/url] on the other end of the budget scale (slightly) I've also used the yamaha dsr stuff and its great for what it is ( not as good as the DSR boxes but its a fraction of the price) its a plastic box which imo don't sound as nice and not as easy to neaten up as wood (black sharpie works a charm) but for what they are they're good and they won't break the bank too much [url="https://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_dxr_15.htm?ref=search_rslt_yamaha+dxr_276909_0"]https://www.thomann....ha+dxr_276909_0[/url] I've attached thomann links so you can see the speakers I'm talking about I'm a sound engineer for a fairly famous jazz club so feel free to give me a shout on here if you have any questions cheers chris edit: i clearly didn't read the rest of the thread before commenting but yeah what everyone else said edit 2: .....,,,..,.,..,.,.,..,..,.., (heres all the punctuation I should have used think of me as the ikea of commenters)

They're usually called HF horns or Tweeters and It does exactly what it says really. provides high end, Useful if you wan't a biting tone or play slap to get that real zingy sound but it depends what kind of tone you're looking for some people like that some people don't neither is right or wrong really. FYI your Laney RB3 has one according to Laney's website

For the people complaining about too much low end at big gigs I totally agree and wish more of my peers (I'm a Sound Engineer for a fairly famous Jazz Club) would read this article It makes some exceptionally valid points and probably goes quite fair into explaining why some gigs sound bad [url="http://www.audiotechnology.com.au/wp/index.php/time-to-shelve-the-low-end/"]http://www.audiotechnology.com.au/wp/index.php/time-to-shelve-the-low-end/[/url] Ps. the guy writing has mixed for a few people all of which have a reputation of sounding excellent on tour

Have you ever thought of producing an audiobook version? maybe members here could contribute some soundtrack snippets?

Mine is a nice simple clean set up Basses Bacchus custom Jazz 5 string (fitted with bartolini pickups and John East preamp) Overwater by Tanglewood contemporary 5 (backup to the Bacchus and has a bit more umph in the bottom end) both basses strung with D'addario pro steels 45-135 (Van damme instrument cable with Neutrick connectors from bass to pedals) pedals Visual volume pedal (I like the LED's up the side and it has two inputs) TC electronic Polytune (running out of the tuner out of the VV pedal) sansamp bass driver deluxe (the one with two inputs and two banks) xlr to FOH from this pedal plus then jack output to amp and parallel output to In ears mixer occasionally a Boss Bass chorus pedal if needed (Van damme instrument cable with Neutrick connectors from pedals to Amp and in ears) Amp Markbass Little mark 3 Markbass Traveler 102p Markbass STD 151 HF (this only comes out for big tributes where I need the look of a big amp) In ears Alto ZMX862 mixer Bass line from sansamp in channel 1 monitor line from monitor desk in channel 2 Westone 4r quad driver in ears from headphone out of desk (I've found that moulds slip out of my ears when i get sweaty and move when I sing BV's losing all the bottom end) For Theatre gigs i just don't use my amp. not as simple as i thought when I started this post