Chrismanbass

[quote name='barneyg42' timestamp='1395917528' post='2407869'] According to her and her dad it's because we are not using proper dedicated bass bins!! Shouldn't have the keyboards through too according to her dad!! Trying to work out what a 12 channel 500 watt per side desk running 2 full range speakers of the correct ohmage per side should be used for then!!!!! [/quote] But adding Bass Bins means that your bass would still be going through the desk and so by their theory would still break it? a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing i would guess that they lack the knowledge of how their gear actually works as has been said before it'll be an undiagnosed fault with the desk. Correlation does not imply causation

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i put bass in the PA system every day (its my job) never known it to damage anything yet as long as you not doing anything stupid with it (clipping ect..)

i vaguely remember from another thread that parcel force specifically don't insure instruments not sure if i'm right but definitely worth checking as i doubt they would advertise that fact well

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Had him in at the venue i work at a few weeks ago absolute gent and a real pleasure to watch really nice to be around

Have one in my work back for when i have to engineer a guitarist who doesn't have one they're a god send and the same principal for guitar applies for bass so it'll certainly help. To be honest at about £5 each theres no excuse not to have one really

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thought i should do a little update i've lived with these for 6 months now and in that time they've broken twice i would avoid at all costs i'm now asking for my money back

[quote name='ML94' timestamp='1390851437' post='2350435'] I applied for LCM for their jazz course that starts in september and got in. [/quote] I play for LCM big band at the moment mate hope to see you there next year feel free to give me a shout if you have any questions

tbh it depends on what you feel comfortable with really ime (finished a music performance degree) go for something your going to give a good performance of rather than something amazing which could potentially go wrong

apologies to the OP by the way this thread seems to have strayed a little from the intended purpose for recording a plugging your bass straight into the desk is fine and you will get a useable recording from it however as BRX said better results can be had by mixing a straight desk signal with a mic on your bass amp to find the sound you want

[quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1390432586' post='2345526'] how small is small tho? andy [/quote] i can't really give a specific size but the idea is to get more the majority of the signal coming through the mic to be bass rather than other stage noise which won't happen in a venue where the bass amp is sat right next to the drum kit or another amp

[quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1390402476' post='2345006'] sadly i think a lot do it as its just the way they do it. in another thread ive said about my use of fuzz and them not wanting to spend time putting a mic infront of my cab. granted if you sound bad there is work to do before you go live. [/quote] nothing to do with the sound of a band dude i've already explained why mic'ing a bass cab on a small stage is a bad idea

[quote name='LeftyJ' timestamp='1390400880' post='2344983'] In my experience, most live sound techs are lazy and just want a good DI signal to work with. [/quote] depends if they're doing it to make your band sound better. you can have the best bass tone in the world, but if your band sound bad in getting it then no-one will want to listen to you.

[quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1390399476' post='2344946'] i do agree, im trying to sort something atm, gonna star bring my own mic to gigs so the sound man has nothing to do my end just a bit of mixing his to combine his di with the mic on the cab. chrismanbass what stops the guitar mics from picking up the same things as a mic in front of the bass? i realise they are very different beasts but still? andy [/quote] different frequency ranges mate the fundamentals of the guitar sound are generally higher and hence you can use a High pass filter to cut out unwanted stage noise without affecting the sound too much whereas on bass if you did that then it would drastically affect the bass tone

did they read or just look at the pretty pictures

[quote name='andydye' timestamp='1390398237' post='2344909'] ...just pa knob twiddlers, not humans per sé [/quote] more human than drummers

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1390397422' post='2344886'] This old bit of misinformation once again. No sound engineer would ever even remotely consider DI'ing a guitar amp, or heavens forbid the guitar, so why is it considered acceptable to subject bass players to this? [/quote] for the reasons i've stated. i'm not opposed to mic'ing bass cabs at all in fact on bigger gigs they sound great however on small stages the cons far outweigh the pros of them and hence why most engineers don't use them

[quote name='andydye' timestamp='1390396216' post='2344861'] I think the best representation of your sound against comrpomise with clarity and control for the sound guy might be taking a di signal straight from your bass as well as micing the cab to get the sound of your amp and then using both signals out front, more bass is better! also more faffing on setup so probably not worth it if you're not playing for over an hour in a large venue!? [/quote] yeh thats what all the big guys tend to use but to be honest on a small stage mic'ing up a bass cab causes all kinds of issues as all you end up catching in the mic is all the parts of the stage sound that you use the high pass filter on the desk to eq out of all the other microphones

[quote name='0175westwood29' timestamp='1390395732' post='2344850'] i can see your point but for anyone who gets a bit of there sound from there amp say like a distortion or fuzz they gonna sound quiet nasty. for me for recording ive done both but much prefer the di out andy [/quote] I would class that as a good reason not too

from a bass players point of view: yes from a sound engineers point of view: no as an engineer unless there is a specific reason not too i would always run a di box before the amp using the link out on the di to spilt the signal into the amp the reason for this is even in the event of amp failure i'm still getting signal from the di box and can work on fixing a solution (ussually putting bass into the wedges for a start) and not interupt the bands set also some amps create a serious amount of buzz and hum which sounds terrible and can be easily avoided by using a pre amp di box something like a sansamp is the best compromise between the two as it can be set before the amp but you can still shape your tone with it

Bit of a thread revival anyone been yet? i'm around for both shows tomorrow night and i'll have a basschat lanyard on if anyones coming in

cool thanks guys

Hi guys one for the london basschatters really just wondering if anyone know's who books bands in the roadhouse in covent garden and what the deal is with them? thanks in advance Chris