paul torch

Green Mile and Ensemble King just arrived, nicely packaged. Can't get to my bass and pedalboard 'til tomorrow night as they are in the studio. I'll let you know how I get on with them.

[quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1355217526' post='1895379'] oasis [i]were never[/i] be as good as the rutles....never mind how hard they tried. [/quote] so true, so true.

Thought the first album felt fresh, with some raw energy behind it which had been lacking in a lot of guitar based bands for some time. Unfortunately, they never seemed to develop musically and I lost interest rapidly.

one of the first things I remember hearing by them. still one of my all-time fave tracks. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhwCqAmggnM[/media]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_mHSGlyRa0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrRahZzcxK8

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1355150107' post='1894626'] Is that from previously having the drummer on your right? [/quote] Almost but not quite. It's always been weak but was worsened when DJing by constantly having the headphones clamped to that ear.

I like to have the drummer on my left as I am a bit mutton in my right ear.

[quote name='essexbasscat' timestamp='1354959200' post='1892313'] Have a listen to 'Yes it is' for a bassline that doesn't do the usual stuff. Also +1 to 'Something'. Singing and playing the bass line to 'With a Little Help from my Friends' is good fun too. Come to think of it, part of the fun of McCartney's lines in general is the singing and playing at the same time, always makes me smile. [/quote] Apparently he used to simplify his baselines when performing live with vocals.

just realised i typed village instead of hillage, or is there an auto correct here?

[quote name='davesturt' timestamp='1354836913' post='1891210'] I use a cheap Bespeco VM 13 swell pedal - it seems to work fine - and is really light (something that I find more and more appealing these days). I'm sure there are some youtube clips of the Gong tour with better audio than these - I'll have to do some browsing. We recorded many of the gigs - so, hopefully, we'll get around to releasing a live CD/DVD at some time. I played with the Steve Hillage Band around Europe (as support to Gong) a couple of years ago - I'm optimistic that there will be something happening again in the not too distant future. Here's a clip from the Zappanale festival in Germany - [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PADGJhoBwmA[/media] [/quote] that's great. I assume you were playing with them at the Lounge on the Farm gig in Canterbury. I thought the sound was great and was so made up to finally hear all those tracks live. I'm a huge Gong fan but this was my first chance of seeing the Steve Hillage band perform (even my teenage daughter was impressed). Would be great if there was to be more gigs.

cool

[quote name='YouMa' timestamp='1354664960' post='1889032'] Mr Hillside resides in London and is busy with System 7, with Miquette. It was great to see him with his own band and with Gong a couple of years ago! [/quote] managed to get to see him with the reformed steve village band a few years back. they were supporting gong and basically shared all the musicians.

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1354528479' post='1886899'] I woudl recommend an approach along the lines of... 'Hey, Fred, you are not going to like what I am about to ask but do you know how uncomfortable your approach makes it for the rest of us and for the other people we have to deal with? [/quote] this sounds like a sensible approach. wish i was this good with words.

I don't expect the guy to change, he's in his mid forties (like myself), so it's probably too late for him. I know I had a major re-assessment of who I was and how I reacted/responded in certain situations and my whole place in the world but that was in my early twenties. as you say, I need to put-up or shut-up, or walk away.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1354483927' post='1886594'] tell this guitarist how you feel - it sounds like something went wrong at the recording sesh you spoke about a few posts ago. If you're going to walk anyway you've nout to loose [/quote] I'm definitely going to tell the guitarist my feelings, I don't want to cut my ties with him as we work well together and share similar philosophies. I hope to continue working with him.

I've just had an email from the guitarist saying that he's going to put one of the songs that the drummer objects to into the set. His word were "his nibbs will have to suck it up". Looks like he's had enough of his antics as well. Apologies for apalling typing, but I'm trying to do this from my phone.

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1354482254' post='1886556'] To be honest,I would have been gone long ago if it's been 3 years before your first gig. That would have been enough alone. But not getting on with one member as well? I'd have been gone after 2 or 3 weeks, unless we were regularly out gigging. [/quote]things were ok up util we recorded a demo about 18 months ago whch was intended to promote us and get some gigs. At was athis point that the trouble started. He totally pissed the sound engineer off and then threatened to leave over the name of the band (we should have siezed our opportunity then). We lost a bit of momentum a that point and it's been impossible to get the old vibe and work ethic back.

[quote name='Paul S' timestamp='1354481489' post='1886541'] A clash of personalities is usually insurmountable and effectively means 'him or me' but to actually offer that ultimatum can, I think, sound a bit childish. What I did earlier this year in an almost identical situation was say to the rest of the band something like 'I have been thinking a lot recently and decided I am stepping down. It is the last thing I want to do but X is driving me nuts because of [your list of reasons] and I can't stand to be in the same band as him, sorry guys' In my case they all said 'we'd rather have you than him' which gave me a rather warm glow inside, and off he went. Problem solved, we now have a brilliant new guitarist, courtesy of our very own Leschirons (thanks again Keith for putting Steve our way). If they don't say that, there is nothing lost as you were probably going to quit anyway and you haven't been perceived as having thrown your toys out of the pram either. [/quote]this was the approach of i was thinking of taking.

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1354468517' post='1886303'] Very true - the best song I ever wrote was called "The Keyboard Player is a f***ing ****". [/quote]can I use this? What could rhyme with drummer? ;-)

Some great and humerousadvice mates, it's cheered me up and made me realise that it's more than a personality clash. I think I'm going to wait until after the gig before any confrontation as I don't to spoil it anyone else involved. I don't want to be associated with his attitude any longer than I have to. Thanks again.

[quote name='rogerstodge' timestamp='1354464001' post='1886219'] You could always do what i did.. "right its either him or me".. I eventually found another band. [/quote]nail and head

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1354463216' post='1886202'] Tricky one. I'd be inclined to say "Jack it in", but then a lot of great bands don't get on. Massive Attack being a prime example. I'd maybe let him know about your issues & that you don't agree with him on a lot of things, but musically as a team, do a brilliant job. [/quote] i know if i was man enough i should confront him but the issues seem to be more about personality than anything else and i don't think that's something that can be changed with a quick chat. Thanks for listenning guys. Really appreciate it.