LukeFRC

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1375218733' post='2158503'] Some great input here chaps, much appreciated... I wonder just how much of a current 'vintage' fenders value is simply the equivalent of inflation over the instruments lifetime? I'm guessing if one was looking for appreciation value in an instrument available new today, you would have to find something that was as new and original as a fender P was in the beginning. I mean were not talking about a new take on the bass guitar, were talking about an entirely new instrument as it was back in the 50's... Investment aside for a moment...and maybe I'm just a blinkered old bass enthusiast... I've got an itch for an old jazz... I think i'm just trying to justify it... Rob [/quote] just go for it!

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1375207898' post='2158246'] It all depends what you mean by investment . Do you mean appreciating in value so you can eventually sell for a profit , or do you mean a minimal depreciation so you will get a healthy proportion of your money back if you want to sell ? The answer to the first scenario is "no , not in the forseeable future but eventually maybe, to some extent " . The second hypothesis is the most realistic in the sense that a good Fender will always sell for a decent price and they are perenially popular . I can't think of many basses that are as saleable as a U.S.A - made Fender , particulaly if you chose a desirable model and colour . [/quote] problem is at the current prices you're still going to take a hefty whack in resale prices - the new american vintage reissues are £1700 or so! Secondhand at the mo you could buy a custom shop fender and have change!

I quite enjoyed reading this thread at work when the boss went out. Modern fenders that I think will be worth a bit in the future? the Roscoe beck sig. and er that's it. unless something happens that makes something stand out then nothing made now really seems too exciting. What seems to be collectable is the stuff before or after a major change

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1375058905' post='2156311'] In this weather it's near impossible to keep an entire showroom's worth of stock in tune, with perfect action and with great intonation. Believe me, I've tried! [/quote] I went into a large guitar shop in a major northern british city and tried out about 10 different jazz basses. One of them had such a bad bow in the neck I felt I needed to tell the staff as I was leaving - like major bow, checking the fretboard is still attatched level. Anyway he rolled his eyes and told me that the shop is nicely heated when open - but cools down a lot at night. The fluxuations in temprature being so great they apparently had the frets lifting on a load of custome shop guitars..... beggers belief why he told me that!

Probably the fender sounds more like.... well like almost every bass they've heard on records.....

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1374914121' post='2154669'] There is a film in there, BRX starts building and selling fake Fenders on eBay only to fall in love with an old P bass after doing extension research to improve the fakes and ends up selling all his Gus basses to fund a road trip to refund all the buyers of his previous fake basses sold? [/quote] or he becomes so famous at building fake P basses that he has to tell the buyers that their "fake" is a fake but worth more than they thought.

Wal i think.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m_8a4xrQ6k

ooh are we talking steels or nickels?? Hex or round core? Personally I like the sound of round core steels from about a week after fitting them till they are dead. When they are dead depends on the string as different strings last longer than other - set of stadium elites lasted 3-4 months, set of DR Fatbeams lasted over two years on the P bass and then one day suddenly lost it.

see I know nothing - but I thought you could tell from the sharps and flats at the start of the bar?

Learn to do it yourself - apart from needing work on the frets it's not hard.

To the OP - what was it about the 75 bass that you liked? More info will help suggestions - 60's and 70's pup spacing is quite different sounding!

purdy

sure we've done this list before - a load of rubbish - real collectors will know what they want and what stuff is worth and why it has value. Non collectors won't care - I think this has been written to fill space in a magazine for guitarists

[quote name='Flex' timestamp='1374767337' post='2152984'] Maple neck with strap button on??? thought maple neck on a JV was the 57 RI not 62 RI which has a mandatory strap button in JV form. Correct me if I am talking nonsense please [/quote] you're talking nonsense.

[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1373835550' post='2142149'] I realise this thread goes back a while now, but what was the white coat that you used before the red? I'm looking at the Molotow paints at the moment and can't find a dedicated primer in the range. I've got Jazzmaster guitar body, and I think it's going to be one of the more bilious greens! [/quote] ah now I see it! Molotow white

[quote name='the boy' timestamp='1374442755' post='2148887'] You are paying for the rarity. I've a few builds on the go at the moment so I'm fixed for gas at the moment. My favourite is one I'm doing for someone else and I'm In love with it. Always the way though. [/quote] Worth it? + one of the rarer Fender logo'ed ones. + amazing basses - one of the best fenders I've ever played - very vintage feel, and sound (different from modern fenders) + they seem to be going up in price.... - ... but I don't see many of them selling on ebay for the asking price.... however the sale price of the normal squier logo ones is going up and they do seem to be selling. - as an investment... you will be selling to a niche market when you sell! I stuck mine up for sale last year on here and didn't even get one lowball offer! Normally I seem to get at least 3-4 lowballers on basschat!

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1374263291' post='2147079'] G&L... pre BBE or not? Obviously as a proud owner of one of the very first L-1000's I'm gonna say pre.... (even my home made main player is largely based on one) Let's face it, anything directly Leo Fender (pre CBS, pre EB, pre BBE) roolz. edit : I love my '97 'ray btw [/quote] I bought a guitar off a fella on here and he had one of those early L1000 - I got to play it and.... one of the best basses ever designed - bar none [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1374427850' post='2148611'] I am not a Stingray buff by any means Pete ( I hand that mantle to yours truly ) , but I think the sound of the treble on a 'Ray is really important because it is such a big part of what makes those basses sound how they do . It would be interesting to do a direct comparison to see if the early EBMM's sound different to the current ones . What I do know is that it doesn't take much to change the sound of a preamp . Change a transistor or capacitor here or there because the manufacturer has used a different supplier for whatever reason and the overall complexion of the sound can be altered . [/quote] I found years back the schematics for the preEB stingray preamp - they are easily available on the net, and have long had a vague goal of building my own musicman copy. anyway - one of the interesting things is that the early ray preamps used tantalum caps and the later (but still pre EB) used normal electrolytic caps - the main difference (they said) was it changed how the treble sounded....