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They are overkill for floor monitors IMO

They aren't going to do a big big hall, but they will do a very big pub or with four of them a small to medium hall or a large marquee, two is very loud for a small marquee, we found out that four for a small marquee is insane

[quote name='Chienmortbb' timestamp='1476174115' post='3151887'] I have not heard the Barefaced but was product manager for Panasonic at one time. Our old square cabinets WS-A200 were great solid lumps but then trapezoidal replacement WS-AT200 were pants. The moulding of the complex shapes makes it difficult to make a solid, non flexing cabinet. Ironically the WS-AT200 used pine struts about 1" x1" (25mm x25mm) in an attempt to keep the cabinet from flexing. Remember we are talking very high pressure sound waves in side the cabinets. The typical Composite Top cabinets (yes I include the Mackie, RCF, Yamaha) are a vast improvement over those early composite cabinets but are still a design compromises. From what I have read the FR800 does not make those compromises. Now the Mackie, RCF, Yamaha etc have come a long way and are better than the early designs and should not be ruled out, however if you have the money, use the one month trial on the FR-800 and if you do not like them, save yourself a few hundred pounds and buy one of the Mackie, RCF, Yamaha that are often suggested. One thing that is interesting about the FR800 is that adding the subs (LF800) does not take the frequency response lower, from the Barefaced Blurb "[color=#333333] Note that the LF800 does not extend the bass response, it just increases output and headroom by sharing the load in the most demanding region of the spectrum." [/color] [/quote] The FR800 is square (well cuboid) and uses all the clever bracing tech that BF have spent years developing for their bass cabs, these are just as rigid. The FR800 is not a typical mid-top PA cabinet, it really is a full range cab, hence my comment about it being more like a super loud studio monitor than a typical PA cab of these dimensions. The LF800 doesn't extend the bottom end, because it already is full range, but it does effectively double it, since that is, as you say, where you really need more power for getting very very loud. Note BF are currently designing and testing a 1x18 sub, which will definitely add some whump...

Watch this in full.... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q4JWqK6r6N4

Yeah a lot, many gigs with two or four of them as the pa. Frankly 4 is too much for my 7 piece band we don't need that much power.... You can't have any, they're all mine so there! The best single cab a side pa solution I've ever heard, be warned they sound like mind bendingly loud studio monitors. You won't get thuddy blurred bass, or harsh distorted top end, even at war volume. Bass goes deep and is very punchy, mids have great detail, top end is plentiful but not at all harsh. I can carry two easily from car to venue. Two fit with my rig in an old 3 series bmw. Square is a great shape for moving ☺ Here is a video shot on a good phone for audio, full disclosure, the bass is not going through the pa, that's my big twin 2. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1157743877603020&id=224894804221270 From outside the marquee on a less good phone at dealing with the huge spl https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154868229452598&id=588604131173413 Using a behringer xr18 to mix on btw...

Different position for us, we do instrumental funk, 7 piece band, in pubs and small festivals. We st team 70's soul funk and classic soundtracks for the time it takes to set up. We open with a forty minute long medley with segues between tracks. It starts off very very quite and moody and goes through a whole series of ups and downs and dynamics but never stops grooving hard. Goes down brilliantly...

I had a lovely day, thanks to everyone for organising it, its been a few years since I could get along to one, can't believe I'm still the compression monkey . Its always a pleasure to help someone out who is struggling with compression, the noblest of effects As always Herbie was outstanding, amazing watching the Walk on the Wildside rendition, worth significantly more than the price of admission to watch that alone! I must try and remember to get to the jam room sometime, I'm always too busy chatting to everyone

As things currently stand I think I can get to this one (first for a while, probably since the embarrassing incident with the banana ) I'll be bringing a shiny Barefaced Big Twin II, a Roscoe Century Standard 5 string, a Markbass sa450 and assorted shizzles. I'm looking for a buyer for a very lovely Berg ae410, but I doubt anyone wants to bring £600 squid along now do they Got to love the way Herbie Flowers' website looks so 1995

Reaper is killer for this Named regions can be rendered faster than real time into mp3s or wavs or oggs or whatever You can decide what tracks to mix for specific regions too if you need to I've been doing this with rehearsals for years

[quote name='dood' timestamp='1466182116' post='3073964'] Place your bets on a duplicate account!! For what it's worth, I love Marmite. - And my Big Twin II [/quote] Nah mate Bobby definitely is not Alex and definitely is his right hand man at BF. Fine chap he is too

REDDI is the best But very expensive....

Damn, next gig in Brighton is Pride at The Worlds End on August 6th This will be mental like it was last year 😆 You have a lovely time though ☺

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1468051428' post='3088254'] Surely that should be Jaffa tape ... [/quote] Badoom-tshhhhhhhhh! He's here all week ladies an' gentlemen 😉

[quote name='cetera' timestamp='1467991616' post='3087924'] Me! Would love to hear my Spector/GK through it...! [/quote] Good enough 😆

Never do a lecture without gaffes tape and an orange, the banana is optional 😂

[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1467931462' post='3087480'] 9v centre positive. Chris does supply an adaptor that lets it run off a centre neg pedalboard supply, I had some interference issues so run mine with the supplied psu . [/quote] Cheers Pete!

Hopefully I can make it this year Not sure what to bring, my rigs a BF BigTwin gen 3, anyone not heard one? If anyone would be interested in buying a Berg ae410 I could bring that Or I could bring a Behringer XR 18 and a couple of pa cabs and show people who are interested what they are like....

What kind of power supply does the smooth hand receiver take??

Yep, but it's got real depth to it too ☺

Here's a link to a video put up by landlord from a gig a couple of weeks ago:- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1157743877603020&id=224894804221270 And this one posted by a punter at the same gig from outside the marquee:- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154868229452598&id=588604131173413 It's the Big Twin g3 being driven by a markbase sa450 500w map. Bear in mind you can dump 1600w into it. The band are seriously loud, going through a barefaced pa, just two cabs, light enough to throw, 800w rms each. There's no bass in the pa.... This is last night's superb gig in Hastings, another punter, this time his phone couldn't deal with the SPL, place was rammed with very up for it happy dancing punters and a couple of grizzled bass heads who reckoned it was the best bass tone they'd heard the low B was astounding apparently - one of them is now trying to sell his big heavy Ashdown rig to get a big twin. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154248515748279&id=588604131173413&notif_t=page_wall&notif_id=1466940198861663&ref=bookmarks

[quote name='Musashimonkey' timestamp='1466713844' post='3078176'] Very nice. I don't think there is much that it wouldn't destroy! [/quote] Tim C's and Jah Wobble's rigs both leave it gasping, but it's enough for me 😆

I've got the Big Twin Gen 3 cab. Sounds immense. It'll absolutely destroy a 410.....

REDDI Best DI for bass there is. Cleaner and more accurate than any mic'ed up amp/cab combo could possibly be.

If I was that wedded to an interface after it is beyond its use by date I would keep a pc of a spec required to run it in a configuration that was spot on for best results for that purpose and not connect it to the interweb.

I recorded our last gig, using our new Behringer (cough splutter yes I know shut up and listen for a minute) XR18. MIc'ed practically everything up (only 3 mics on the drums, kick snare, OH - but we have a percussionist with 3 congas, hand held perc and a perc tree, so he uses 5 mics - 3 mics on drums with a mono OH is my go to live config anyway), DI from bass head, DI from keys, e835 on guitar, 57 on trumpet and a nifty clip on brass mic for bass trombone. Only ran what needed to be run into FOH, but recorded everything from the input point (ie no fx, no fader no eq, just input from the MIDAS designed preamps). Recorded with a laptop using Reaper. Still working on the mix down to be honest - we are in gig season for us so its busy as hell right now - but my first thoughts are as follows:- 1. Its a game changer for me - like having your own bradcast truck would have been in the 90's 2. It records beautifully - actually considering letting my audient 8 channel mic pre go because this is so close. 3. The most practical way to record/mix a live band on a gig I've come across - by miles. 4. Unbelievable value for money 5. Its in a rack to keep it as safe as possible Is it future proof - hell no. But I dont want future proof I want the technological innovation to make my life easier, to make it possible to achieve more. My RME UCX is class compliant - so what, it has never been any kind of a selling point to me. If it werent so good for mixing with I'd move that on as well. The keys player from my band is in another band, he is so impressed that he wants to use it at a rehearsal for that band to sell the idea to them, because its brilliant with IEMs (6 aux outs, each with eq and limiter on, each out controllable by the person who is using it for their own mix and not FOH - utterly brilliant live!). If that band buys into it he'll bring theirs along as a spare if the thing goes wrong, but its got a 3 yr warranty so I suspect with a little care it will last just fine.