stingrayPete1977

My genz shuttlemax9.2 has two channels (genz amps are popular with upright bassists anyway even the single channel ones) at the moment I can use my eub without touching anything at all and I put the fishman preamp into the fx return for the db

Light sanding with 1200 grit paper should not deter a buyer as it can be polished out again, we are talking microscopic amounts of finish.

[quote name='Maude' timestamp='1375039587' post='2156079'] I don't know the science behind it and I don't really care, but the fact remains that if you take a smooth piece of wood which has been lacquered to a gloss finish, push your finger into it with a reasonable pressure and then try to push your finger forwards, your finger will (not always before anyone jumps in) probably squeak and move forwards in small jerks and jumps before moving smoothly, now lightly sand the finish (not rough) and do the same with your finger, it will more likely move much more freely with no noise. It's not the material used to finish the wood as your haven't removed the material just how it's finished. When I got my new double bass, I had a fair bit of left hand noise resonating through the bass until I lightly sanded the neck, now no noise as I don't have to break that friction creating small sqeaks and noise. Heard the expression 'squeaky clean'? Why does your finger squeak as you run it down a clean wet plate? Surely as it's smooth and the water acts as a lubricant there can't be any squeaks, why does your finger grip the plate and then make a noise as you break that friction? Now try and make the same 'squeaky clean' squeak with a slightly rougher surface, it won't work. [/quote] This is my finding even down to the double bass, mine was the same. Engine bores are honed with a cross hatch pattern so the oil is retained to stop the piston rings burning out or in our case hand gripping the neck, maybe we should lube up before playing

Your hand and bass neck are different materials. One thing is certain, if you flat the glossy neck back with 1200 grit wet and dry then the stickyness is reduced. What yo want is a predictable grip, think of glass again and your hand grips well but then lets go altogether, that's what makes the squeek. Some glossy necks are stickier than others though and I agree that might be the finish type in some cases.

Yep I like that

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1374996937' post='2155494'] Can someone please explain the physics behind this? I'd have thought that putting hundreds of thousands of tinny scratches in the finish would increase the friction not decrease it. I can't help but think that glossy = sticky is either down to the wrong type of gloss finish or entirely psychological. Most of the basses I use have gloss finished necks and I've never noticed them being any different to the few I have with a more matt finish. The stickiest necks I ever encountered were on Warwicks that felt and looked like they had no finish on them at all. [/quote] We did this thread a few weeks ago... [quote name='mart' timestamp='1375010722' post='2155653'] I'm sorry, but this is not correct. In any situation if you hold something smooth then there is less friction than if you hold something that is not smooth. This is because if the surface is rough the your skin folds into the shape of the surface, giving a much higher contact area than on a smooth surface of the same apparent area. (Much like a road from A to B that goes up and down a lot will be longer than a road that is completely flat, because the ups and downs add to the length.) If you rub glass against glass, then yes, there will be more friction than rubbing glass against, say, wood. But that is because the glass does not give in the same way that your hand does. [b]But even a child knows that if you rub a smooth object then there is less friction than with a rough object.[/b] You are right that sweat can act as a lubricant, but I find it hard to believe that a small layer of sweat would actually increase friction as you claim. But I don't know - maybe that is true. As for why different necks feel sticky, I have to say I have no idea. I think we subconsciously think that the heat is slightly melting the lacquer. I don't imagine that's possible, but I have no idea. And it doesn't fit with BRX's experience that oil-finished necks (like on Warwicks) are worse than others. [/quote] ikay was correct IMO, this is how racing cars tyres work, do they have lots of small grooves or just slicks for maximum grip? in the wet they need grooves to remove the water to regain that contact but in the dry smooth tyre and smooth tarmac gives the most grip, it is all about surface area so although the abrasions will add some grip in some cases the loss of surface area will lose more than you gain. Think of wheel barrow handles that are smooth and give you blisters compared to textured rubber handles of a bicycle? the smoothness grips your skin and pinches it as your hands move. Try running your finger down a very clean glass with pressure applied then down a lightly textured surface and tell us how you get on

[quote name='steve-soar' timestamp='1374947620' post='2155154'] The sound of the Rob Allen Deep 5 was something else. [/quote] That first note really stands out doesn't it, fantastic!

Cool clip ain't it, only found it searching for rockabilly clips!

Funny how he still sounds like him though, maybe it is all in the fingers after all?

It was always going to be good with Hank Marvin's left handed brother on the telecaster, nice one

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfJ102A73Ec"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfJ102A73Ec[/url]

I am not too hot at getting the 'story' with songs, is there any chance that it is tongue in cheek or from the perspective of a Brummy bigot but not the one singing? ( I say singing......)

It was more like drunken slurring than speech?

Bunch of Honkys.....

The only things that resemble a seal is either wet top coat on the body when the neck was fitted glueing the neck in place for no reason or years of beer and grime getting between the neck joint, neither are a problem to be lost forever IMO

What sort of era bass? I have only seen it on pre EB basses and I love it!

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1374914517' post='2154680'] Mine is a Gedo 3/4, mate. Whatever else it does, it sounds like a double bass! [/quote] I was not blaming the bass, more just a thought of giving up! It has passed now and practice will resume, you should let Gedo use your clips on their website

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1374881357' post='2154521'] Yup... gigs I'd generally avoid. [/quote]

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1374875210' post='2154459'] 15 mins? Sheer luxury. [/quote] The last one we did was an outdoor in a field thing with a smaller tent for duos and stuff to entertain during the change overs, we were the first act on the big stage so had plenty of time to set up but could not sound check as there was a guy playing to backing tracks in the tent opposite, in the end we just started playing the first number (a Bruno Mars cover I think with a reasonable instrumental intro), sounded fine.

There is a film in there, BRX starts building and selling fake Fenders on eBay only to fall in love with an old P bass after doing extension research to improve the fakes and ends up selling all his Gus basses to fund a road trip to refund all the buyers of his previous fake basses sold?

[quote name='ubassman' timestamp='1374865910' post='2154331'] ....impressive by anyone standards ! [/quote] This , Jeez! anyone want to buy a near new Gedo 3/4?

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1374912308' post='2154646'] And what design advantage is that? [/quote] Haha you really dont like Fenders do you?

If its a cheap/project bass then it does not matter anyway. If its a more valuable bass then buyers need to see things like - neck date/type stamps, - body date stamps, - neck pocket finish showing original maskings, - preamp or pot date markings and original solder joints, - rear of the pickguard may show originality and usually hide any 'extra' pickup routes often hacked out! Different basses have different little quirks that clued up buyers will ask for too so in many cases it is a must, I certainly would not buy a vintage bass without seeing the rear of pickup and the control cavity.

I was going to make a joke about fingering but that might be a bit rude