stingrayPete1977

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1415833474' post='2604414'] Why..? [/quote] Just like Dave says above, at first I think wow this plays like the proverbial butter then as time goes by and I'm trying to thrash out town called malice with a pick it's too low. I also find it sucks the tone out of the bass if it's too low. Don't get me wrong mine are not that high and I'm sure you would be able to play them but from what you say you would like them lower and I'd like them higher. For a jam session there would be a point where I'd get on better with a high action clunky old p bass than an overly low ticklers jazz copy

Rickenbacker tuning pegs and a light weight body and hey presto, horizontal!

Day at the races is from 76 and there is a clip of them may 77 to of the pops good old fashioned lover boy so he must have got into rays very early on.

[quote name='Cairobill' timestamp='1415867399' post='2604541'] Anyone have a list of tracks where he used a stingray? Another One Bites the Dust? Was it a Bernard Edwards influence? Deacon is an amazing bassist. [/quote] Not unless he has a time machine

I suppose the pedant in me should point out that he isn't playing an Ernie ball bass and in fact is more fender than a fender of the same era.

He used one a lot more than people think from quite early on too as I've seen clips from 77 with one. I think I put a load of links to clips of him with one in a previous John deacon thread I think?

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1415824487' post='2604251'] I've always wanted and needed a low action... and always been picky on strings for feel and touch. Maybe I'm just picky. Of course, it doesn't matter how anyone sets up a bass, ... but most people find mine easier to play that their own.. Makes me wonder why they don't set theirs up like that. [/quote] Im not a fan of Rotosounds but I'd rather play a bass fitted with them than a super low action, initially when trying someones bass that is low I think it great, after a few days or a gig I'd be raising up I assure you.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1415824937' post='2604262'] I think StingrayPete (and Dave_bass5) nailed it. The vast majority of people just play them off the shelf. I wonder if pianists have the same conversations? "The hammers are just too 'bouncy' on the Steinway for my liking." . [/quote] I bought a Stingray new in 2002, I didnt touch the truss rod for about 4 years, I suppose I just thought that was how it is until it got bad enough that I decided to look at it, probably 4mm off the 12th fret maybe where I now set them to about 2mm with only a hint of neck relief, my jazz is a touch lower.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1415781730' post='2603618'] Love this tune. [/quote] It certainly is, one of the few things I like about christmas! Lol

We were too scared to touch the truss rod when we were young, some people still are I suppose?

[quote name='White Cloud' timestamp='1415815820' post='2604097'] A truism....the definition of "good" tone is entirely subjective. [/quote]

A plug tester should be in all our kit bags really Just bought a spare one for less than £4 off ebay as I keep losing my work one then 'borrowing' my gig bag one!

So I had an 8 page thread about 5 string jazz basses and no one mentions these?!They look great imo, I really dont like the 3 and 2 or even 2 and 3 headstocks BRX, I've never had all the problems you always mention with string lie etc, even my Fender has straight strings and holds tune just fine for hours on end, it also has the lightweight F tuners so no neck dive even with a light for a Fender V body

Best tone? What was the scientific measure used for best tone? Filed under 'flawed' with all the other tests imo

Surely not, lol

Why play anything of any shape really?

I've moved all the notes to suit the five strings and I'm playing that part on the D now, I played it as a semi tone before but I think it probably is a full tone if I'm looking at the right bit. I've got a fairly reasonable version together now

But we are all different JTUK, your boring and easy line to the next person might be quite hard and rewarding for them, for most players that DJ5 would be a good enough instrument to not inhibit their playing, if its a jam you either play it and enjoy it or take your own single cut 37" scale 9 string half fretted half fretless next week

I think the term unplayable is the problem I suppose in fairness if a particular bass stops a person being able to play a piece they can on a different bass then to them that bass is unplayable even if that music sounds like a load of frustrated guitarist noise, even the worst bass with a setup and proper strings would be able to be used for something making it playable in the strictest sense of the word.

First rule of the active bass club, keep at least one battery in front of yourself, I have 3 pp3s in my gig bag at any one time, never needed to use one in an emergency but they are there, strings and battery once a year around my own birthday to help remember these days

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1415648333' post='2602404'] I'm a poor enough player that I'd assume it was me before I assumed it was the bass, upright or not. [/quote] Likewise but I know its not my bass as I have heard the noises Jake Newman and Geoff Chamlers can get out of it, ah must be me after all

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1415646383' post='2602378'] When you've just got off a double bass, the wide P bass neck and high action seem neither wide nor high. [/quote] Since taking up DB I agree but then in a way you can say the same about "unplayable" uprights or cant play arco on particular strings, cant slap on particular strings. Tools for the job just the same I suppose.

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1415622978' post='2602019'] That makes sense, but do the regulations require that sockets/conduit containing three phases have such warning labels? After all, it's not exactly 'normal use' for someone to open up a socket so if the normal users of such sockets cannot be exposed to three phases by simply plugging in a standard plug why bother with warning labels at all. After all, by definition, it's only qualified electricians who can be expected to properly understand what such labels actually mean in practice. [/quote] To the letter then it should if it contains 400v or has more than one supply inside, the 400v sticker is just confusing for joe public and doesn't really explain fully to any electricians working on the system, on the other hand you would not have room for an essay on a socket outlet, damned if you do damned if you dont? The normal label if it was because the sockets nearby where on a second phase would be "Pottential 400v between socket outlets in this area" probably with a symbol of two arrows pointing at each other > < or one on each pointing at the other socket. In large installations the electrical engineer will insist on which phase each ring main is on to avoid that yet keep the load for the entire building divided equally. Of course a month later the jukebox engineer turns up and drills a hole through the wall to get at the nearest socket and you are back where you started!

I've never played a good five string jazz until the one I've just bought, anything pre 2008 gets a bad press from what I have seen and then again more praise after 2012, four strings are less trouble but most fender fives I have tried were naff so I'm glad I've bagged me a nice one with a tight B

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1415582305' post='2601773'] No, there's more of you than that, with an average of 3.7 puns each, which I've rounded up to 4. You all get a pat on the head. [size=4] [/size] [/quote] Nothing gets past ur ize does it?