Thornybank Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 (edited) How to put this? I have - ahem - too much Trace kit. I love it all and I have a good sized room, but I just added it all up and really, there is no excuse for a holding of this magnitude and I am not a John Henry or Matt Snowball. All great stuff - none of the Gibson era or later downgraded components and build quality. Just the models that made their name. Mk1 to Series 6. Combos from 150w to 300w and heads from 150w to 500w. About every cab configuration except 2x10, from 200w to 800w. But I do have a 200w 2x10+2x5 combo with a valve preamp ... Nothing under £150, but nothing over-the-top, either. All tech checked and working fine. Now... I am not wanting a 'kids in a sweetie shop' free-for-all 'wanna see some pics!' time waste, so please ask 'do you have a ...' rather than 'pics of everything, please!' Give us a preference for format and a budget and I'll come back with a list of kit to suit. You can then go on line and check the specs and reviews and all that. If something takes your fancy within your price range, we'll talk them through and I will do pics of the real contenders. Your chance to get 'that sound', from a home set-up to a stadium blasting super-rig. Or maybe kit out a studio or some practice rooms? Some flight cases, too. Heads Mk2 AH250 MkV AH250 MkV AH350X Mk 2 AH500 MkV AH500 Series 6 AH200 Cabs Mk2 410 200w MkV 410 200w MkV 410 800w Ser 6 410H 300w Mk2 1518 200w MkV 1518 200w Ser 6 1518 300w Ser 6 1153 200w shallow format Ser 6 1153 200w deep format Ser 6 2103X 2x10 + 2x5 Green carpet 1503 V series 2x15 500w Mk112+15+18 4ohm Mk1 15+18 4ohm MkV 18+10 Ser 6 15+10 Combos Mk2 150w 1x15 Mk2 150w 1x15 Mk2 300w 410 Ser 6 200w 2x10 + 2x5 valve pre Ser 6 GP12SMX 250w 4x10H I think that's it.... Edited December 23, 2009 by Thornybank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 (edited) Oh dear. I most definitely do not want, nor am I even vaguely considering, acquiring an 1818 cab. No sir. Not me. Far too heavy. It would be like taking trying to lift a bus in and out of my car. A bus with a black hole sitting in it, in fact. A black hole that had just swallowed a herd of overweight elephants. Even if they have the absolute tone from heaven and makes my humble bass sound like everything I have ever wanted it to. No, at my age I should be thinking of changing to sensible things like Mark Bass or Phil Jones, not adding to my Trace Elliot rig. If, however, you possessed such a thing, er, what would be the relevant information - price, condition etc? Not that, as I said, I am remotely interested, you understand. It is a purely hypothetical question driven purely by curiosity. Edited December 13, 2009 by Paul S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornybank Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 You are in luck! The only 18-ish ones I have are: An 18+10 (see last summer's famous everlasting thread for the flightcased one for £200 that I didn't buy only becasue I have this one - but now I have an AH350 which is designed to biamp one or a brace of 'em and I am kicking myself, except that where is it legal to even sound check the things?) A 12+15+18 full flight Mark 1? Mark2? silly huge thing that completely does bass beyond bass. A 15+18 which is the partner to the 12+15+18 (he had two?!?!?! what for????) with teh 12" section off it (but still full flight and face off and handle and wheels and all that) so that a single human can shift it. Sorreee.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overwater#1 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Always fancied that valve combo... hmmm..... daren't get any more amps!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbass4k Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 What have you got by way of a head, at least 250w into 8ohms, pricewise under £300? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephead Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 [quote name='Thornybank' post='683215' date='Dec 13 2009, 06:52 PM']How to put this? I have - ahem - too much Trace kit. I love it all and I have a good sized room, but I just added it all up and really, there is no excuse for a holding of this magnitude and I am not a John Henry or Matt Snowball. All great stuff - none of the Gibson era or later downgraded components and build quality. Just the models that made their name. Mk1 to Series 6. Combos from 150w to 300w and heads from 150w to 500w. About every cab configuration except 2x10, from 200w to 800w. But I do have a 200w 2x10+2x5 combo with a valve preamp ... Nothing under £150, but nothing over-the-top, either. All tech checked and working fine. Now... I am not wanting a 'kids in a sweetie shop' free-for-all 'wanna see some pics!' time waste, so please ask 'do you have a ...' rather than 'pics of everything, please!' Give us a preference for format and a budget and I'll come back with a list of kit to suit. You can then go on line and check the specs and reviews and all that. If something takes your fancy within your price range, we'll talk them through and I will do pics of the real contenders. You chance to get 'that sound', from a home set-up to a stadium blasting super-rig. Or maybe kit out a studio or some practice rooms? Some flight cases, too.[/quote] ..................................errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! I don't suppose you have any spare rare as rocking horse sh*t 32 ohm 10" bass speakers have you???? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornybank Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 [quote name='bobbass4k' post='683390' date='Dec 13 2009, 09:01 PM']What have you got by way of a head, at least 250w into 8ohms, pricewise under £300? Cheers[/quote] Hmmm... 250w into 8ohms. They never did that that I know of. But please remember, these are 'old watts' amps. An old AH150 4x10 combo is enough for most theatre gigs with no PA support. Under £300 I can do a Series 2 AH250 - black painted wood finish, military green livery with the tone that set them on the map. Has some broken slider ends - they get soooo brittle - form carrying facing my leg when I got bumped. And no UV. But the graphic works perfectly. As does the rest of it. It has that smooooth sub thing that distracts you from teh fact that you are pinned to the wall with your face peeling back. At £300 + carr I can do a nice MarkV AH250 with the black light working. If you can find anyone near you who has a pre-Series 6 AH250 (not an SMX) give it a spin with your cabs and see if it is enuff..... ...which it will be....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornybank Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 [quote name='zephead' post='683413' date='Dec 13 2009, 09:17 PM']..................................errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! I don't suppose you have any spare rare as rocking horse sh*t 32 ohm 10" bass speakers have you???? Mike[/quote] I'll check. apoo... on ebay often sells them - or used to. I have a GP12SMX 410 combo that came to me with with only three in it - can't remember if I pulled them out or put one in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos3h Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 [quote name='zephead' post='683413' date='Dec 13 2009, 09:17 PM']..................................errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! I don't suppose you have any spare rare as rocking horse sh*t 32 ohm 10" bass speakers have you???? Mike[/quote] Watford Valves have them in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddude16 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 (edited) hey what are the prices of heads? Edited December 13, 2009 by maddude16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesso Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I know you said you don't want this to turn into a kid in a sweetshop thread, but..... ah go on.... a few pics wouldn't hurt would they? They did make a 250 watt 8ohm head. I'm pretty sure the one I own is a 250sm jobby. Bought in 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephead Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 [quote name='Moos3h' post='683507' date='Dec 13 2009, 10:53 PM']Watford Valves have them in stock.[/quote] I know, but don't they only sell them in sets of four? i only need one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornybank Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 I can do a clean and happy single 32ohm 10"Celestion for £45 incl. payapal and next day courier. ...or £40 cash notes in advance. Duzzit help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornybank Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 The 250SM is 250 into 4ohm, and about 175w into 8ohm, same as the AH250. But it was an SM = Sound Management = dual compressor. That pre circuit sucks presence a bit, so your AH250SM would be output equiv to an AH200. The older AH250 has a larger power transformer to deliver more thump per watt than the later stuff, so is output equiv to an AH300SM. In case anybody cares.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornybank Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 [quote name='maddude16' post='683514' date='Dec 13 2009, 11:02 PM']hey what are the prices of heads?[/quote] [b][i]Not[/i][/b] the question I was wanting.... .. but let me know output, features and budget and I will tell you what I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigster Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 hi have you got anything like a 1x15 @ 8ohms 500 watts power handling? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allighatt0r Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 4x10 cab / 4 or 8 ohms / >400W handling / cheap as chips? ....please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Thanks but I think they would all be even heavier than something that is already too heavy! [quote name='Thornybank' post='683293' date='Dec 13 2009, 07:39 PM']You are in luck! The only 18-ish ones I have are: An 18+10 (see last summer's famous everlasting thread for the flightcased one for £200 that I didn't buy only becasue I have this one - but now I have an AH350 which is designed to biamp one or a brace of 'em and I am kicking myself, except that where is it legal to even sound check the things?) A 12+15+18 full flight Mark 1? Mark2? silly huge thing that completely does bass beyond bass. A 15+18 which is the partner to the 12+15+18 (he had two?!?!?! what for????) with teh 12" section off it (but still full flight and face off and handle and wheels and all that) so that a single human can shift it. Sorreee....[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddude16 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 pics, prices :S ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatgoogle Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Got anything in the way of a 12" or 15" combo around 150 watts for the 150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornybank Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 300w is the best I can do for a loaded 1x15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornybank Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 [quote name='allighatt0r' post='684088' date='Dec 14 2009, 03:31 PM']4x10 cab / 4 or 8 ohms / >400W handling / cheap as chips? ....please? [/quote] Eminence 100w drivers are £40 a pop, so cheap as chips is kinda hard for anything I could warrant as worthy. I can do you an empty 4x10 cab for you to auto-fill.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornybank Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 [quote name='Paul S' post='684141' date='Dec 14 2009, 04:29 PM']Thanks but I think they would all be even heavier than something that is already too heavy![/quote] Nae doot aboot tha'. At least the 15+18 is a face-off cased tilt back wheeler... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornybank Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 [quote name='maddude16' post='684180' date='Dec 14 2009, 05:00 PM']pics, prices :S ?[/quote] Tell me what you want and a budget.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornybank Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 [quote name='fatgoogle' post='684193' date='Dec 14 2009, 05:10 PM']Got anything in the way of a 12" or 15" combo around 150 watts for the 150.[/quote] Nope, sorry. I don't have any of the post-Gibson commando-type cheapies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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