PavelBudik Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Hello, I bought a doublebass labeled Johaness Trinelli 1810, but i dont know the value and also if it fits its old. Can you help me? Thanks for your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) Pictures! Rare to find a genuine label in an old bass I think. Still, my dad inherited a violin that said Stradivarius inside; obviously it wasn't.... but was still worth a few £1k. Not many (any) references to any Trinelli making basses ever. Seems unlikely anyone would fake up a label to someone unheard of! Anyway, pictures! If it's a blond plywood one then we can be pretty sure its not from 1810 😁 Edited April 19, 2023 by NickA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavelBudik Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 Obviously it is repaired many times before. Now its in luthiers hand to restoration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavelBudik Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 19/04/2023 at 11:52, NickA said: Pictures! Rare to find a genuine label in an old bass I think. Still, my dad inherited a violin that said Stradivarius inside; obviously it wasn't.... but was still worth a few £1k. Not many (any) references to any Trinelli making basses ever. Seems unlikely anyone would fake up a label to someone unheard of! Anyway, pictures! If it's a blond plywood one then we can be pretty sure its not from 1810 😁 There are the pictures under my post now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Is it just me, or does the '10' in '1810' have a different feel about it? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Looks lovely could be great, could be s*it, that's double basses for you. If you've already bought it I'd not worry about value, just get it set up and start learning how to get the best out of it. Ultimately with double basses it's like horse and rider, rider's gotta get to know the horse before the paring works, irrespective of the quality of either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEvans Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1810, or 1870, or even 1890? It looks like he had a batch of labels made with just the 18 printed, and added the actual year as required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Well the Sharpie was invented in 1964. Just saying ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Its definitely old ... and knackered. Could be lovely and I hope it's worth doing up. Too many nice old basses ending up in a skip because the repair cost is greater than the resale price would be once fixed. Not helped by some dealers / luthiers trying to make things perfect, when playable would do fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilp Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 OK, what it is is less certain than what it isn't! It isn't Italian, and it isn't 1810. My guess would be it's a German/Tirolean factory bass, anywhere between 1900 and 1960's. It looks like the shoulders have been extended to give a longer string length. What is the string length? this will help determine what it is. If the timber is decent and it's not too heavily built, it might be very nice with a bit of careful repair and setting up. Nick and I totally agree on this - DON'T have it restored! Get what is necessary done to make it stable and crack free. Play it for a bit to see how it sounds and feels, then if you like it get a good bridge fitted and some nice strings and enjoy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Yep, quite likely a nice bass, but being a Germanic factory bass puts it more in the solid working old bass category rather than a fine historically significant instrument that would warrant high-level restoration work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Someone has taken a fountain pen and tied it to a stick to fake a year onto the serial number. At least you know he made at least 9 before that one. Probably had some chops by then. Same got done to my Gt. Grandad's violin to make it an antique when he bought it, 16"84". Now it is just an old violin that plays ok if a bit on the heavy side of not very light for a violin. Best of luck in getting a nice playable bass out of the deal. Edited July 12, 2023 by Downunderwonder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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