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You've gone for some quality Yammys then!

I've included in the "wall of shame" on the OP - amusingly the Yammy bass owners with names / avatars beginning with "M" are far and away the most common. Not sure what that says about anything! 😁 

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On 12/10/2020 at 16:42, Al Krow said:

Just clicked on a couple of Yammy 735As and was gobsmacked by their current new retail prices! 

Actually there is one place still selling them at the old prices...Bass Direct (£749), but a couple of retailers were in the £850 ball park and the Yammy store in London has it on for an eye watering £934!

Bass Direct have just dropped their price to £729 shipped for a 735A and given that these basses seem to hold their value pretty well (as can be seen from 414/5, 424/5 and 1024/5 used prices), I'm really tempted to get a new replacement one for the used one I sold a while back (apparently because I was holding onto my P35, or so I thought!).

Lot more convenient for me in terms of follow up servicing / warranty issues to get from the Yammy store in London, and they have confirmed they are willing to match the best online prices - so that's a point worth bearing in mind.

So I just need to decide on satin black or coffee sunburst now then - decisions, decisions haha! I'm guessing you lot would split fairly evenly between the two options? 

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I'd say the sunburst is a better fit for your retro bands, the matte black more at home with a rock / metal band, but get whatever floats your boat!

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24 minutes ago, dannybuoy said:

I'd say the sunburst is a better fit for your retro bands, the matte black more at home with a rock / metal band, but get whatever floats your boat!

I thought it would be a slam dunk for the matt black - particularly with ALL Series 3 headstocks (including on the P34/5s!) being black, but the black headstock doesn't feel too out of place with the burst either.

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The matte black looks really cool (I had my 734 in black) but (to me) nothing beats the sunburst. I still love my 735 and everytime I see it I just wanna play.

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I say matte black; very elegant and “original” than the sunburst. 
Also love the blue stripe along the body which testify the attention to detail that Yamaha puts on this line of basses 

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Wow this is a mega thread! I am waiting on a newly ordered BBNE2, in white of course. 

I haven't gone through all 171 pages to see if this bass has been discussed! Its a great sounding bass with superb build quality. I should get it just before xmas!

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26 minutes ago, Chopthebass said:

Wow this is a mega thread! I am waiting on a newly ordered BBNE2, in white of course. 

I haven't gone through all 171 pages to see if this bass has been discussed! Its a great sounding bass with superb build quality. I should get it just before xmas!

May have been mentioned a couple of times 😉

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@Chopthebass I hope yours has got black hardware and not the trashy gold hardware that this one has - otherwise you're likely to come in for a fair bit of abuse from ancient Egyptian admiring types on this forum 😁 

Check out P13 / 14 of the thread for some NE2 chat and I posted a short review of it on 13th March 2018 (P13).

And congratulations!! Dunno what other basses you currently have, but the NE2 is an absolute corker!

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21 hours ago, Chopthebass said:

Wow this is a mega thread! I am waiting on a newly ordered BBNE2, in white of course. 

I haven't gone through all 171 pages to see if this bass has been discussed! Its a great sounding bass with superb build quality. I should get it just before xmas!

Not jealous at all

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On 15/10/2020 at 12:49, Al Krow said:

Bass Direct have just dropped their price to £729 shipped for a 735A and given that these basses seem to hold their value pretty well (as can be seen from 414/5, 424/5 and 1024/5 used prices), I'm really tempted to get a new replacement one for the used one I sold a while back (apparently because I was holding onto my P35, or so I thought!).

Lot more convenient for me in terms of follow up servicing / warranty issues to get from the Yammy store in London, and they have confirmed they are willing to match the best online prices - so that's a point worth bearing in mind.

So I just need to decide on satin black or coffee sunburst now then - decisions, decisions haha! I'm guessing you lot would split fairly evenly between the two options? 

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Sunburst for me

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On 15/10/2020 at 14:49, Al Krow said:

Bass Direct have just dropped their price to £729 shipped for a 735A and given that these basses seem to hold their value pretty well (as can be seen from 414/5, 424/5 and 1024/5 used prices), I'm really tempted to get a new replacement one for the used one I sold a while back (apparently because I was holding onto my P35, or so I thought!).

Please, please, talk me out of placing an order for a matte black 735A right now!

I’ve only just decided I like the BB235 quite a lot, after playing it for a few months, but find myself wondering how nice it would be with an active preamp. More like my BB1200Ss...

I don’t need it! I want it! Aaarggh!

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8 minutes ago, MattiZ said:

Please, please, talk me out of placing an order for a matte black 735A right now!

I’ve only just decided I like the BB235 quite a lot, after playing it for a few months, but find myself wondering how nice it would be with an active preamp. More like my BB1200Ss...

I don’t need it! I want it! Aaarggh!

When did "not needing" a piece of bass gear ever stop us getting something we really wanted?! 😁

I don't know how many Yammy BB735As Bass Direct has in stock - so if you want it for that currently excellent price, I suggest you hit your credit card quickly before I stop dithering about whether to get it myself (the Yamaha Store won't have any replacement stock until late Nov) and @marleaux62, who has recently clearly got a very bad dose of the Yammy bug, beats you to it!  

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5 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

When did "not needing" a piece of bass gear ever stop us getting something we really wanted?! 😁

I don't know how many Yammy BB735As Bass Direct has in stock - so if you want it for that currently excellent price, I suggest you hit your credit card quickly before I stop dithering about whether to get it myself (the Yamaha Store won't have any replacement stock until late Nov) and @marleaux62, who has recently clearly got a very bad dose of the Yammy bug, beats you to it!  

I know, you make perfect sense. I haven’t seen any black ones for sale anywhere in EU area for months, and the price is very good. 

Must resist. Or at least think about it for a while.

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Sometimes you have to follow your heart! Besides, since when has music purely been about the "head"?

FWIW - I can't think of any other PJ 5er with active / passive option that matches the 735A's quality, until you are hitting twice that price (and more). 

I suspect you will love it and, if you don't, then you won't have any difficulty moving it on!

When is it arriving? Will you be looking to sell your BB235 or keeping it as a purely passive bass? 

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7 hours ago, Al Krow said:

Sometimes you have to follow your heart! Besides, since when has music purely been about the "head"?

FWIW - I can't think of any other PJ 5er with active / passive option that matches the 735A's quality, until you are hitting twice that price (and more). 

I suspect you will love it and, if you don't, then you won't have any difficulty moving it on!

When is it arriving? Will you be looking to sell your BB235 or keeping it as a purely passive bass? 

Agreed. All your pro-BB735A arguments are valid, I used each and every one of them to convince myself that I was about to do the right thing. And yes, they work, feeling happy now. 

No shipping information yet. But I guess it will take some time, every package from GB to Finland that I’ve received during the epidemic has taken several weeks to arrive (there’s been 4 or 5 of them).

Not sure what to do with the BB235 yet. It is a nice bass, like it more every time I play it, but if the BB735 really is that much better... possibly end up keeping one at home, the other at the studio / rehearsal room. Might sell my BB300 instead as it gets no playing time at all (and its neck profile does not feel ideal, and the pickup seems quite weak, and so on). 

Remains to be seen. Anyway, looking forward to comparing the two 5-stringers extensively. Decision time comes later. Now that I remember, never completed my review of the BB235 earlier in the thread. Must do that soon!

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Currently on the lookout for another 5 string after selling my BB425 and I'm tempted by the BB5N that's for sale just now.

Decided to see what other BB5* there are out there just now - turns out not many! For £290 it seems a safe bet, anyone had one recently and can compare it to the 425 neck wise. My current favourite neck is my Sandberg Electra VS4 so even better if you can compare it to that too!

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Mick aka @TheGreek has had a few of the BBNs, I recall, although I think they were 4 rather than 5 string

There is definitely a different neck profile between eg the 1024 and 1025 with the 5s having a flatter radius to make them more comfortable to play in conjunction with being a 5 string. Dunno if the same would be true of the BBNs? 

The one in the FS has had some interesting mods done to it; not entirely sure whether these will be "improvements" or just "chages"! 

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Bass tone shoot-out: Sandberg Panther Special 5 vs Yamaha BB735A

Must admit I’m a sucker for a good looking bass in glorious woods and those woods include mahogany and walnut. I came across a Sandberg Panther Special in the FS and felt a twinge of GAS for it and decided to look the 5 string version a little further. Turns out it was ticking a lot of boxes in terms of what I would be looking for:

  • PJ config;
  • 3 band EQ;
  • active / passive;
  • > 20 frets;
  • not sure about the weight but described as being “modest weight” in a Music Radar review.

But then I thought, hey I know another bass that also ticks all these boxes: the Yammy BB735A.

The Berg sports an ‘effective’ 35.25” scale length for the B string which purportedly results in a meaty low B. The Yammy has body through stringing and a 5 piece laminate neck for extra strength and rigidity. Both are bolt-on rather than neck through, which would have been icing on the cake for me – but that’s just something I personally love design wise, as I think it looks fabulous.

Bergs are really well put together basses. The thing that has put me off Bergs, since deciding to part with my TM4 a few years back, in addition to their cost (although tbf used ones are often a fair bit more affordable: they don’t seem to hold their value in the same way that Yammys do - I guess partly down to the much higher starting price?), was the relatively hi-fi nature of the some of their pups; Delanos in particular. So my key bit of further research was to look into how the Panther Special 5 sounded tonally and I managed to dig out a YT clip from our own Andy Boorman (Moonbass), where he gives it a very good tonal work out as part of his sales pitch for his old bass. Amusingly, I very nearly bought this bass off him 4 years ago, which was before the 735A was released, and might have done if I'd seen this video at the time. I think you will agree, it sounds pretty darned good!

I then also came across a really good clip of the 735A with Tyler playing my old bass(!) It was really informative hearing them both 'side by side' as it were. I appreciate that signal chain and recording equipment will impact what we’re hearing the other end, particularly on YT clips, but a current Berg owner kindly confirmed that the Andy B’s clip was a pretty good reflection of how his current Sandberg Panther Special sounds.

Be interested in what you guys think in terms of the tonal A/B of these basses?

The Sandberg is on at £2,263 in PMT. For me, having heard them both side by side - the point we’ve made loads on this thread about Yammy’s holding their own against basses costing several times rings true even more for me having spent a bit of time doing this bit of research and is going to be something I continue keep at the forefront of my future buying decisions. Now if they only finished the 735A in white...

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Oh and if you want to hear a 735A in action in the mix, this one is currently in the FS. Loved it!

 

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