PaulWarning Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 there was a news item on Radio 5 this morning about plagiarism, Led Zep are being sued over Stairway, I never realised the opening riff to In the City and Holidays in the Sun were the same, but when does inspiration become plagiarism? Paul Weller is a past master at ripping off intros but I don't know whether he's ever been sued, is it not enough just to copy a part of another song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 just seen the Stairway thread have I plagiarised it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1460450153' post='3025727'] just seen the Stairway thread have I plagiarised it? [/quote] Post of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) This won't really be an issue going forward as no-one makes enough money from original music to warrant suing them... Edited April 12, 2016 by CamdenRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1460450709' post='3025736'] This won't really be an issue going forward as no-one makes enough money from original music to warrant suing them... [/quote]that's true, never thought of that, I can copy other songs with impunity now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBus Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1460450153' post='3025727'] just seen the Stairway thread have I plagiarised it? [/quote] Yes! and as I posted in that thread I'm going to sue you. We could settle out of court of course. Couple of Jelly Babies suit you? (other children's sweets are available before I am accused of something) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 [quote name='BassBus' timestamp='1460451164' post='3025744'] Yes! and as I posted in that thread I'm going to sue you. We could settle out of court of course. Couple of Jelly Babies suit you? (other children's sweets are available before I am accused of something) [/quote]done, shame other disputes cannot be settled so amicable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 [quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1460449990' post='3025723'] there was a news item on Radio 5 this morning about plagiarism, Led Zep are being sued over Stairway, I never realised the opening riff to In the City and Holidays in the Sun were the same, but when does inspiration become plagiarism? [b]Paul Weller is a past master at ripping off intros[/b] but I don't know whether he's ever been sued, is it not enough just to copy a part of another song? [/quote] The Changing Man / 10538 Overture thing is just staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) These things only go to court if the guys being sued say up yours and think they can bluff it out. Intros and arrangements are not covered by copyright so can be used at will, as Andy Summers found out. . . . . [url="http://ultimateclassicrock.com/sting-puff-daddy-2000-a-day/"]http://ultimateclass...ddy-2000-a-day/[/url] Edited April 12, 2016 by chris_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyctes Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 [quote name='BassBus' timestamp='1460451164' post='3025744'] Yes! and as I posted in that thread I'm going to sue you. We could settle out of court of course. Couple of Jelly Babies suit you? (other children's sweets are available before I am accused of something) [/quote] Pinching other children's sweets? Should be ashamed of yourself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1460456922' post='3025820'] These things only go to court if the guys being sued say up yours and think they can bluff it out. Intros and arrangements are not covered by copyright so can be used at will, as Andy Summers found out. . . . . [url="http://ultimateclassicrock.com/sting-puff-daddy-2000-a-day/"]http://ultimateclass...ddy-2000-a-day/[/url] [/quote]I believe it's the melody and the lyrics which are covered by copyright, could be wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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