operative451 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Hi! So there i was, watching Hot Chip at the Brixton Academy, and jolly good they were too, when i wondered just how much of that type of noise i could make by myselft with all of my pedals and other stuff, like what that Royal Blood bloke does. Only not rock. So far i've stuck the drum machine into the bass synth wah which makes a satisfyingly acid house 'Wiggy wiggy pew peow' sort of noise, my zoom has its arpegiator so i'll try the bass into that and then into the BSW. I'm kind of wanting to do as much as possible just coming out of the bass but i've also thought of getting some sort of kiddie casio keyboard like i had when i was a kiddie, and bunging that into the mix. Anyone tried similar? I know i could use a DAW on a laptop, but that's the no fun option... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Not yet, but often considered it. I've got things that arpeggiate: Sonuus Wahoo, Moog T3, Death By Audio Robot, and a looper. And too many fuzz and bit-crusher pedals, and a Boss LS-2 and an amp for "bass" and an amp for "distorted". Also there's a Stylophone itching to get in on the action as well. What annoys me about the RB bloke is that he has to try to be bassist and guitarist at the same time. Just make your sound and get on with it, if you need a guitarist then get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qlank Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I thought about this a few years ago, sounds like a lot of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I did it using ProTools, real-time pitch-shifting, and some Sansamp PSA-1 plugins. I programmed drums for a beat I was quite pleased with the sound, it sounded reasonably full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Having seen Royal Blood, I (personally) wouldn't bother to try and emulate anything they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo-London Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Masterful Count Bassy. Query: If a pedal has 2 knobs and say each knob has 10 useful positions then there are 100 combinations of sounds. If the pedal has 3 knobs then there is a 1000 possible sounds. So when I see pedals with 4 or more knobs I lose heart. Just saying. Davo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 [quote name='Davo-London' timestamp='1446195653' post='2897576'] So when I see pedals with 4 or more knobs I lose heart. Just saying. [/quote] That's 10000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operative451 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 I can do 'RAWK' - that's easy, at least as my idea of rawk involves pretending to be the jesus and mary chain, so you 'just' split the signal and go fuzz-wah-distortion-amp and let it feed back! This attempt is more 'dirty techno'.. Prototype 'rig' below although actually it will probably be all moved to a bigger pedalboard. The bass synth wah and the zoom are in the effects loop of the mixer with everything stuck through the mixer. The drums go 'wiggy wiggy squelch' in a satisfyingly 303 ish way, and playing the bass in makes the synth do some interesting harmonics - the zoom is for delays, pitch shift, arpeggiator, that sort of thing. I tried recording it on my phone but the mic couldn't cope! [attachment=203966:12119054_772773632850897_8348037716409622312_n.jpg] Additonally: Re knobs: Yeah, that's a reason why i'm heading back to digital! I could do with digital presets and analogue sounds...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I want a Bass Synth Wah now. What are the pedals on the floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckinthepod Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 There is an art to getting a good sound out of the Bass Synth Wah. I found the best I got out of it was the clunk it made as I threw it in the cupboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) [quote name='stuckinthepod' timestamp='1446209358' post='2897732'] There is an art to getting a good sound out of the Bass Synth Wah. I found the best I got out of it was the clunk it made as I threw it in the cupboard. [/quote] I'll have it then. if it's no good I'll sell it back to you Edited October 30, 2015 by toneknob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operative451 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 The BSW does make some totally unusable noises! If you want to be bootsy collins or do 'uptown funk' its great. Its also quite good for being the Human League but the knobs are very sensitive (arf) and its easy to from 'cool sound' to '70s Dr who monster' and then not be able to get back again. I got it cheap and wanted something that would split my signal and have an octaver on it. The floor pedals are Joyo - 'Voodoo Fuzz', Fuzz with octave up, tremelo, and 'California sound' aka a copy of the sansamp California. And a behringer 'vintage phaser'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operative451 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 I've been sort of obsessed with trying to sound like this since about 1993: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay_uOANgo4M[/media] I've found some blurb about how they recorded - One sound is apparently a guitar stuck in a moog! THey also claim to be just using guitars and bass and drums, no keyboards, in which case i'd like to know what the 'dugga dugga dugga bow!' sound is at the beginning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 [quote name='operative451' timestamp='1446212765' post='2897783'] The BSW does make some totally unusable noises! If you want to be bootsy collins or do 'uptown funk' its great. Its also quite good for being the Human League but the knobs are very sensitive (arf) and its easy to from 'cool sound' to '70s Dr who monster' and then not be able to get back again. I got it cheap and wanted something that would split my signal and have an octaver on it. The floor pedals are Joyo - 'Voodoo Fuzz', Fuzz with octave up, tremelo, and 'California sound' aka a copy of the sansamp California. And a behringer 'vintage phaser'. [/quote] Thanks! I don't think I've got any pedals that don't make unusable noises come to think of it. Agree having a built-in splitter is very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operative451 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Noise: [media]http://youtu.be/sqS_Q57IzzE[/media] Recorded on my phone, tried to tweak the sound a bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operative451 Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Ok, this is now just me talking to myself... The Hotblood-Royalchip pedalboard is probably (minus more fiddling) a go. BSW into cheap Nux delay/looper into zoom 505 for nasty digital low definition flanging, phasing and octaves and suchlike. Clean out from the BSW into Joyo California and Tremolo. All into little mixer and out to amp! Drum machine goes into an EQ pedal then the mixer too for added thud. Loopers are harder to use than KT Tunstall makes it look! [attachment=204867:IMG_20151111_205944.jpg] Edited November 11, 2015 by operative451 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Curve were one of my favourite groups since I first heard them (which was the radio sessions). I always wanted to be in a group that could do that sort of thing, but never met anyone else that wanted to do that sort of thing, and it was a bit trickier on my own! - Edit - the sound at the beginning is just what you said, it is a guitar (or bass) going into a moog, running a high pass filter with a very high resonance going up. Edited November 11, 2015 by Woodinblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operative451 Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 Me too! They weren't really that well known but most people i play it to go 'that's flippin' awesome!!' Except for the people who go 'argh' at the feedback... I reckon actually i am now quite close to getting this sort of sound: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_VYNNkCDFo[/media] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Well, I will come and listen then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operative451 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 After mucho faffing and a slight cheat of using FL studio to do the drums because its easier to sync for recording, here's a test - deffo more 'Missing Link' than techno, but on the other hand, its the riff from Missing link... [media]http://soundcloud.com/operative451/operative451-missing-link[/media] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Thats pretty cool and close to what you were aiming for I think. certainly strong on the filters. Now I am wondering if I can somehow put the bass through the filters on my blofeld. Does remind me that once we were doing a muse song, in my group.. Oh yes, plug in baby, and I normally put a bit of a filter on it, but this one night we had gone into it when I wasn't expecting it as the guitarist changed what we were doing, so I switched to my patch for it on the Zoom B3, but I had been fiddling around with it and put the A filter and Z filter and bitcrusher on, all set to major settings. It wasn't what any of us were expecting, but you know, once you have started... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operative451 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 Thanks! It's more 'pew pew pew' than i was expecting but still as you say, put on the 'i totally meant to do that' face and go for it..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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