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Thomann selling Harley Benton basses as 'Decoration only'


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[quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1421169157' post='2657981']
I would have bought one there and then if I hadn't have seen your post late afternoon! I tried a Kala bass uke over Christmas and it sounded immense and was so much fun to play. £450 was too much though but I'd take a pop at one for £39 any day of the week.
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I was looking at the listing this morning thinking that I was sure that someone of the forum would really go for that if they saw it in time.

I think I heard that the Harley Benton uke-bass is bigger than the Kala bass. More the size of the Tanglewood Traveller bass. Though, I'm too lazy to go and look up the specs and check that this is correct. Personally I think I'd prefer something of that size than a Kala bass. When I tried a Kala bass, I didn't like it as much as you did. I was playing it acoustically though. When I heard one with a ukulele orchestra, it was being played through an amp, and it sounded good.

Edit: Harley Benton Uke Bass: 534mm scale length
Tanglewood Traveller Bass: 21" it says, close enough to 534mm scale length
Kala U-Bass: 20" scale length, 508mm.

Not as different as I thought.

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[quote name='Vixivi' timestamp='1420912593' post='2654990']
I've actually made a basschat account simply cause i was always checking out this thread.

I got a Deko 5 string fretless bass a while ago, great instrument needed a bit of a setup.
The only real fault is that the side dot markings are wrongly positioned, which is not really a problem once you get used to it.
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Firstly , a belated welcome ! :crigon_04:

Are the side dots on your 5 where they would be if it was a fretted , like Tauzero's ( post 142 of this thread ) ?

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[quote name='DaveFry' timestamp='1421185858' post='2658302']
Firstly , a belated welcome ! :crigon_04:

Are the side dots on your 5 where they would be if it was a fretted , like Tauzero's ( post 142 of this thread ) ?
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Thanks! :)

And i think they are, since they're exactly in between 2 notes. So i need to play either before or behind the dots but never on them.

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1421179303' post='2658177']
I was looking at the listing this morning thinking that I was sure that someone of the forum would really go for that if they saw it in time.

I think I heard that the Harley Benton uke-bass is bigger than the Kala bass. More the size of the Tanglewood Traveller bass. Though, I'm too lazy to go and look up the specs and check that this is correct. Personally I think I'd prefer something of that size than a Kala bass. When I tried a Kala bass, I didn't like it as much as you did. I was playing it acoustically though. When I heard one with a ukulele orchestra, it was being played through an amp, and it sounded good.

Edit: Harley Benton Uke Bass: 534mm scale length
Tanglewood Traveller Bass: 21" it says, close enough to 534mm scale length
Kala U-Bass: 20" scale length, 508mm.

Not as different as I thought.
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The body is bigger than a Kala too. Sounds nice though and with a little run over with some sandpaper, feels good too.

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[quote name='DorsetBlue' timestamp='1421232753' post='2658624']
The body is bigger than a Kala too. Sounds nice though and with a little run over with some sandpaper, feels good too.
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What parts did you need to sand? What sort of finish does it has, and wouldn't the additional sanding do something to the finish?

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The finish is satin/matt, so the sanding caused no effect whatsoever. There were rough patches around the edge of the body and I gave the fret ends a bit of sand and polish too. Used very fine sandpaper for the body and nail files for the frets, worked very well.
I was very careful though :-)

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A number of instruments have gone up i the last 30 seconds. Inlcuding a 1975 Jazz bass.

Explorer electric guitar and acoustic 12 string gone within a minute or less. 1975 Jazz Bass still there.

[url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_jb_75_na_vintage_serie_deko.htm"]http://www.thomann.d..._serie_deko.htm[/url]

EDIT: Jazz bass gone now.

EDIT: Thanks DorsetBlue.

This is the 12 string that was very briefly available. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_hbd20012bk_12stringwestern.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...ringwestern.htm[/url] Not a bass obviously, but IMHO it doesn't sound too bad. EDIT: At first I liked the pickup sound on this. But after plugging in some quality headphones and having another listen, I've changed my mind on that. Full price is £84.99. I wonder how much the deko price was. Probably about £30 or so I'd guess.

I wonder if the instruments get reserved once they're in your shopping basket. E.g. I wonder if it's a strategy to immediately click on buy, and then have a think about it, then remove it from my shopping basket. However, UglyDog's first attempt to buy a JB20 suggests otherwise.

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Found myself rather intrigued by these and have been looking in great detail. I "may" have found why the fretted is unplayable.
The full price B30 is a 24 fret neck. The deco B30 is a 23 fret neck. Comparing the photos seems to suggest that the 23rd and 24th frets are in the same position on both models.

This would lead me to believe that all of the frets are slightly high all the way up the fret board and as such the intonation is "wrong"! It won't be an issue for home use buy if you were to try and use it in an acoustic band situation then it'll probably sound off.

I could be wrong and I'm sure someone with a set of vernier callipers will take accurate measurements and correct me if that's the case. :)

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[quote name='Dave_the_bass' timestamp='1421267649' post='2659246']

The full price B30 is a 24 fret neck. The deco B30 is a 23 fret neck. Comparing the photos seems to suggest that the 23rd and 24th frets are in the same position on both models. :)
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Both are 24 fret its a typo in the description. Someone already debunked this earlier in the thread.

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[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1421267944' post='2659251']

Both are 24 fret its a typo in the description. Someone already debunked this earlier in the thread.
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If it's already been debunked then I must have skim read that page of the thread, I was a little late to the party. :)

Can't beat the real world evidence of ownership, but the photograph on Thomann clearly shows a 23 fret bass as described, hence my reason for posting.

I'll get back in my box.

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[quote name='Dave_the_bass' timestamp='1421267649' post='2659246']
Found myself rather intrigued by these and have been looking in great detail. I "may" have found why the fretted is unplayable.
The full price B30 is a 24 fret neck. The deco B30 is a 23 fret neck. Comparing the photos seems to suggest that the 23rd and 24th frets are in the same position on both models.

This would lead me to believe that all of the frets are slightly high all the way up the fret board and as such the intonation is "wrong"! It won't be an issue for home use buy if you were to try and use it in an acoustic band situation then it'll probably sound off.

I could be wrong and I'm sure someone with a set of vernier callipers will take accurate measurements and correct me if that's the case. :)
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My Deko B30 is 24 frets and the nut to 12th fret distance is 433mm. It intonates fine now I've got the neck relief right and therefore the action at a decent low height.

Hope this helps

Andy

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Fret 12 at 17 inches.
Fret 23 about 1/32 inch under 25 inches (should be 24.99, using 'the 18 rule").
Fret 24 also about 1/32 inch under 25.5 inches (should be 25.5)
(subject to the accuracy of a Stanley tape rule, which agrees with a B&Q rule, no expenses spared on measurements here!)
Intonation generally poor (to my cloth ears). Fretted at 12th sharper than harmonic, though I have changed the strings, maybe the bridge was set for the original bronze rounds.

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Fitted a set of D'Addario black nylons to my black HB30. Not only does it look a million dollars, it has made a marked improvement to the feel and tone too. It has also evened out the string volumes a bit through the PA.

It is pretty much as much as I would want and need from an acoustic bass - but with a total cost (bass, strings, postage) of £70.66 !!

Has to be up there in the 'best value for money of anything I've ever bought' category :)

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Loads more dekos up NOW!

EDIT: Mostly gone. There is a JB20 Jazz bass still there as of a few seconds ago.

EDIT: Jazz bass and some not very attractive (IMHO) resonator guitar still there. EDIT: Looks better in full sized photos and is an interesting instrument. Black resonator guitar with mini hum[size=4]bucker. [/size][url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_hbn150cebk.htm"]http://www.thomann.d..._hbn150cebk.htm[/url]The[size=4] resonator guitar has good reviews, if anyone's interested. Surprised to see the Jazz bass is still there. [/size]

[size=4]EDIT: All gone now. Anyone get anything?[/size]

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'Custom Series' Acoustic 4-string bass. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_clb_10sce_ns_deko.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...sce_ns_deko.htm[/url]

The non-deko version claims to have a much shorter scale length????? [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_clb_10sce_ns.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...lb_10sce_ns.htm[/url]

One review claims that the bridge pins limit the gauge of string that can be used. I'm not sure about that. But, I don't really see what the advantage of this bass is over the B-30 models that some of us have. Unless someone really likes abalone shell.

It seems to be the guitars that go quickest. One of these 'Vintage' strats went up and disappeared before I even noticed it was there. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_st_62_bk_vintage_series.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...tage_series.htm[/url] One of these vanished extremely quickly yesterday. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_hbs200bk.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...on_hbs200bk.htm[/url] I don't know about other people, but I don't find that bolt-on SG guitar copy particularly appealing.

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[quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1421442688' post='2661421']
'Custom Series' Acoustic 4-string bass. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_clb_10sce_ns_deko.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...sce_ns_deko.htm[/url]

The non-deko version claims to have a much shorter scale length????? [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_clb_10sce_ns.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...lb_10sce_ns.htm[/url]

One review claims that the bridge pins limit the gauge of string that can be used. I'm not sure about that. But, I don't really see what the advantage of this bass is over the B-30 models that some of us have. Unless someone really likes abalone shell.
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I think the solid spruce top is the major advantage over the B30 models, which have a laminated top. As much as we bicker over tonewoods in solidbodies on here, it's a big deal with acoustics. If I didn't already have the B35 on the way, I would have been tempted by this one.

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[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1421443634' post='2661447']
I think the solid spruce top is the major advantage over the B30 models, which have a laminated top. As much as we bicker over tonewoods in solidbodies on here, it's a big deal with acoustics. If I didn't already have the B35 on the way, I would have been tempted by this one.
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Ah, OK. I didn't notice the solid spruce top. It seems a deal then, anyone going to go for it?

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[quote name='Vixivi' timestamp='1421443802' post='2661449']
The custom line deko does have fishman electronics which i assume are better quality than the standard series?
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I listened to the sound samples of the custom line, and must admit that it didn't immediately strike me as being a step above what I have. I put flat wound strings on mine, so perhaps its not a like for like comparison. IMHO the pickup on my B30FL sounds great. Fishman electronics should be a big bonus however, and with the solid spruce top means that this is a higher specification than the B30. It is, percentage-wise, more expensive. But, at their price point, the absolute price difference isn't too huge.

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