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Increasing tonal options on a Precision??


Jamesemt
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I love my CIJ Precision, but sometimes feel it's a bit limited. Is there any way to get any more sounds out of it without having to rout the body out for a bridge pickup? Some MMs have Piezo pickups in the bridge...what's all that about, then?

Don't mind having the bass tampered with, but REALLY hate the look of a P bass with an extra pickup...

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well, your hands is a good place to start.
specifically where you pluck/attack.

thumb/palm mute/ flatwound strings on a P is nearly always nice.

going the other way tonally P with Pick can't be bad

Sadowsky Pre-Amp is a good buy for a Fender. It don't do a lot but what it does it get done well.

two weeks ago I put a light flange on a track while pumping 8's with my thumb. Quite full and the space it takes in the track is sounding to me at least, right on.

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[quote name='Rayman' post='159406' date='Mar 18 2008, 09:21 AM']One word.................."Villex".

[url="http://villex.com/pickups.html"]http://villex.com/pickups.html[/url][/quote]

I agree they are excellent pickups, but I don't want to add a pickup to the current configuration (and it already has a Wizard Thumper).

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[quote name='foal30' post='159398' date='Mar 18 2008, 09:14 AM']well, your hands is a good place to start.
specifically where you pluck/attack.

thumb/palm mute/ flatwound strings on a P is nearly always nice.[/quote]


+1 to all of that...

To me the beauty of a P is that it's down to the player.

The bass itself has very little tonal variety of its own...

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[quote name='Jamesemt' post='159440' date='Mar 18 2008, 10:24 AM']I agree they are excellent pickups, but I don't want to add a pickup to the current configuration (and it already has a Wizard Thumper).[/quote]


My 80's MIJ precision has been modded with a wizard thumper and stacked vol/tone controls and a Villex PRTB booster. greeneking has also done this but has added a villex P pup there are 2 reivews of the booster in the reveiws section

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2462"]Ped's Review[/url]

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7193"]GreeneKings Review[/url]

[url="http://villex.com/prtb.html"]Link to Villex Website[/url]

well worth the ££ and a doodle to fit (unless your a numpty like me) and still keeps the traditional Pbass tone

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Basically you can stack your volume/tone and fit a Villex booster on the output or fit Villex pups with the extra mid control.

On my Bob Glaub I did both and put the jack into the side of the body.

Another option is to feed your Thumper through an ACG pre-amp as per my Warmoth.

Both highly successful in increasing tonal range of a P bass while keeping its essential character.

Peter

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I've had the chance to play an instrument with the ACG pre in it and it's a totally different kettle of fish to the usual boost/cut idea.

The flexibility the pre has is just amazing and because it doesn't just boost/cut preset frequencies but uses filters to play with the sound.

It really has to be heard to be appreciated and then you really do need to put in the time to get used to it.

All in all, just a great piece of kit :)

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I'd just like to add that I only completed my Warmoth P bass on Saturday so I'm still getting used to what is the very 1st single pick up ACG pre-amp.

It suits the P really well. The low pass filter by itself gives everything from dub to clank with a wonderful array of mids thrown into the equation. The threshold boost adds real 'resonance' at the very frequency you're focusing on.

The high pass filter then provides you with a great amount and selective quality of 'zing' too if that's your thing.

[quote]It's already perfect - why change it?[/quote]

I'm sorry but define your perfect? To whom? The whole tone issue is sooooo subjective I know but increasing and enhancing the tonal pallet just has to be worthwhile imo.

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