EBS_freak

Solution is simple - desk aux to headphone amp on top of your amp... then headphone extender cable that is plugged into passive volume control on your belt.

[quote name='6feet7' timestamp='1476467172' post='3154649'] I've just started in a new band and we were discussing in ears last night at rehearsal. We've just got to find the best for the least amount of money [/quote] If you go to the big thread linked above and read through that, it has all the information you'd ever want... and more. Worth the read.

[quote name='joeystrange' timestamp='1476465700' post='3154639'] Do any of you guys using IEMs NOT use your own PA? Would it be a lot more difficult if you were to use them with a house PA/engineer? [/quote] You can use an XLR split box and split front of house and have your own mixer doing all the monitor stuff if you want to be that much in control of it. Any decent foh engineer should be able to send you something half decent though.

And in the other corner... http://www.pmtonline.co.uk/special-offers?manufacturer=12

Looks like it. Great slacks too.

[quote name='Dynamic' timestamp='1476460512' post='3154567'] 3 v 6 - 6 is better. UE18 is a great monitor, sells really well in the audiophile market. I've listened to 15 and 18 drivers per side, complete waste of money. I do know who manufactures the Westone monitor BARs, they are a reputable company... [/quote] Ha - I don't know about complete waste of money - but certainly there are different sound signatures... and only you can decide whether that sound signature is worth the money. But I agree, there's lots of BS around with driver count. If you are cramming in drivers just to up the count, you are going to be onto a loser... unless you can really nail the crossovers and phasing issues.

Come to think of it, my RBX came with coloured ball ends too...

This would suggest otherwise however - http://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/musical-instruments/guitars-basses/el-basses/bb/bb424/?mode=model

[quote name='Sean' timestamp='1476296278' post='3153183'] They are strung with Yamaha strings. Very difficult to find in the UK. They are nickel and will be 45-105 roundwounds so any decent make with that spec will be OK. [/quote] I thought they came with stainless? I seem to recall I used to source them - 45, 65, 80, 105, 125 In fact, I have found the email response from Yamaha when I asked that very same question (for a BBNE2) - [font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]They are the [/size][/font][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]Yamaha[/size][/font][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] H4050 Electric Bass 5 [/size][/font][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]Strings[/size][/font][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]:[/size][/font] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]Note Diameter Tension*[/size][/font] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] (Inch) (mm) (Lbs) (Kg)[/size][/font] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]G 0.045 1.14 42.4 19.2[/size][/font] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]D 0.065 1.65 48.1 21.8[/size][/font] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]A 0.085 2.16 49.0 22.2[/size][/font] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]E 0.105 2.67 40.6 18.4[/size][/font] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]B 0.125 3.18 28.3 12.8[/size][/font] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]* 34" (864mm) scale length[/size][/font] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]DL[/size][/font] [font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]Yamaha[/size][/font][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3] Customer Support[/size][/font] [email="[email protected]"][email protected][/email] 714-522-9000

[quote name='interpol52' timestamp='1476449494' post='3154418'] Great, now I want a Stingray again. [/quote] Aye, Stingray want comes and goes with me too... 20th Anniversary 4 string in particular.

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1476458065' post='3154536'] Where are the BF cabs? [/quote] Where are the fanbois?

Sounds like an interesting offer. How does the 3 aside compare to the 6 aside of the UE18s? I'm just wondering if there is going to be enough headroom in the bass - that has always been the let down of triples (or less) for me in the past. Do you know what BAs are in there? Knowles or Sonion? Or a combination? Specially manufactured drivers to Westone spec? (Or a secret!?)

[quote name='hen barn' timestamp='1476441924' post='3154322'] We all need to speak to one of the big company's!! If we can make a car park itself we must be able to make a bass guitar sound like a bass synth with out the fart noises!! [/quote] Its mainly down to a bass being crap as a trigger...

[quote name='DaytonaRik' timestamp='1476440212' post='3154292'] He's an old school dinosaur when it comes to things like sound reinforcement...more backline is good is his mantra. funnily enough - he swapped to a 15w Victory Kraken amp and loves it instead of his 50w rip-yer-head-off-at-10-paces Earl! Part of the problem is a limited number of monitor channels on the analog desk that we use. That said - I'm sure we could run 1 for the twin guitars and another for the drummer/myself who want a more shall we say rounded mix, not a me me me me me mix! Myself and the 2nd lead guitar try to educate. We'd go DI or isolation cab even in a pub if we had our way [/quote] I'm sure that something like an XR18 would scare the bejesus out of him. "What is this remote mixing by tablet voodoo?"

No experience - 370 for a quad is pretty good... but I'd still take a UE900 over one (under 200 from eGlobal)

[quote name='hen barn' timestamp='1476425329' post='3154105'] I want a pedal!!!! Some must want to make one??? [/quote] Nup - and they won't track like they need to either. This, Chaka's "We can work it out" and Whitney's "I wanna dance with somebody" synth tones... if only there was a pedal...

[quote name='AndrewJordan' timestamp='1476366229' post='3153682'] Cheers for the link to the other thread EBS freak! I hadn't seen it. Just read a page or two and there is some very good info in there! [/quote] No problem - I think if people realised that running IEMs on a modern setup (e.g. digital desk) is really straightforward now, a lot more people would be doing it.

Yup - I think that wins the award for the best looking small format amp. That milled aluminium looks gorgeous.

Absolutely agreed! I'm the biggest IEM fan - and so keen to hear and understand all the tech at all price points. These Westones have got my attention as they are a bit different to everything else on the market. Having used the filter ear plugs in anger and having tried ambient ported IEMs, I am intrigued to if Westone have actually made some successful inroads in addressing the problems inherently present with that kind of tech.

I don't know if anybody else has been following the progress of the Stephen Ambrose's Adel technology but I found this keynote speech pretty interesting and exciting for so many different reasons - not only for the music world but also giving hope to those with hearing loss issues. Thought I would share in case anybody else is interested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_2UchbEPM

Ah yes, there's Tim C rarely using his in-ears.

'fraid you're going to need one of these...

[quote name='Dynamic' timestamp='1476365453' post='3153674'] Not just the bass but the whole ambient sound replaces the monitor sound once it drops for example below 20 dB. The bass losses are controlled by the 'SLED' or canal. Most designs use a secondary sound canal to the ear from the filter rather than a ported speaker with a filter. This secondary canal is used to reduce the low f loss. The other method is to have more bass in the monitor mix, not great though. The ambient is giving you the sound from the whole venue, not just the stage. Same with the ACS Live system but that uses the microphones for the ambient which is mixed with the monitor through the Live belt pack. That level of control isn't possible with passive filters. If you want to try the Live system contact Andy at ACS UK or Adam ACS USA, they have a universal fit Live system for demo's. [/quote] OK - I think I get where you are coming from. I would be interested in how they work for bassists and drummers - the loss of bass frequencies are crucial. For a vocalist that doesn't overly care about bass - then yeah, I could see that working quite well. I've got the ACS Live system - and I think it's very good but let by two factors - the mics don't cut it in environments with very high SPLs. My friend is the lead vocalist in a Deep Purple tribute band and those tiny mics just can't cope with onstage volume... granted, I would say that the backline needs to be turned down- but they are all old school and deaf and it's not really going to happen. Even with the pad engaged on the pad, they just don't cope. Secondly, the headroom in the bass out the ACS isn't great for bass players. In the right environment though, they are superb. I'd imagine the guys in the west end using them will be loving them.

Cool - thanks for the detailed descriptions.

Can't sniff at Yamaha's build quality. I miss my BBNE2 - I haven't seen another instrument built as well.