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These are 64's Apex filters. You can get -15dB, -20dB and the solid (which is the orange which is in the picture). I'll be using -15dB. I'm the same as you, I never seem to get on with plugs... but thought I would give these a go to see how they work for me. I won't get to use them on a gig for a while so dont know what they'll be like using them onstage as I'll be using IEMs... I do use earplugs after coming off stage though. I’ve uploaded a better picture for seeing the filters. As I say these are solid. The other filters I have, have little holes that dictate the level of attenuation.

I haven't spent much time with them yet and I've got to get used to the sound of them - but as far as I remember, theres defo a bit extra over the universals... but that's no surprise due to the custom fit, which I think always brings a fair bit extra to the party. The ACS thing is so annoying- because the Live concept is so so good. Just badly executed in my opinion But no, defo no swapsies on the cards! When you're out in Florda, call into see Jerry - they will sort you out. Remember, just because I've had 64 doesn't mean anything. It's all personal preference. This time around I preferred these model. Last time, I preferred JH. Would I have the JH again? Yes!

I think that the forum would explode at the speed of light if I changed names now.

@intime-nick - it's all very addictive stuff. I would not want to do a gig any other way now. I know that they are perceived as very expensive headphones... but the performance of some of these IEMs... they are simply staggering. The lows on these 64s... I'm sure if I wasn't careful, they would be way, way, way too much. And when I look at my ACS where I started compared to where I am at now... well, there's just no comparison. I've been lucky to try quite a fair few IEMs in my time now, especially with all the tradeshows I do... and I just don't know why people wouldn;t go this route. It's just that to some people, dropping a shed load of cash on "headphones" just isn't as satisfying as buying some wedges. Personally I prefer not having to carry the wedges and having a superior monitor mix. But hey, thats just me! 😛

Yeah - I think they shrank their colour choices down when they moved from moulding to 3d printing. Funnily enough, my Roxannes were originally going to be that colour scheme before I plumped for the CF option.

Nah, this thread is strictly for dinosaurs. 😛

That's what I thought when I opened the box. The chrome logos are a really good upgrade from 64 - they look class. I decided I wanted to keep them fairly simple... and agonised over going with either black or white caps (to obv match the bass). I'm glad I went black now that I've seen them in the flesh. Proper classy. I like the new cables too - they apparently don't go green... so thought I would give them a go to keep everything looking a bit less heavy. I'm going to see how I get on with them... but may go Bax down the line for the super thin stuff (as found on the new UE monitors as standard) but keen to see how the stock cables perform. (Not that I'm heavy on cables - unless we are talking about ACS cables).

And here's the second bit... couldn't resist a little extra earplug upgrade whilst at it... These are 64's earplugs, including the apex modules. I've never got on with traditional filter ear plugs... so am looking forward to hearing how these perform.

Booyah! I'm a happy chappie.

KZ AS10 have landed! (5 BA per side) https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2018-KZ-AS10-Headphone-5-Balanced-Armature-Drivers-HiFi-Stereo-In-Ear-Earphone-Separable-with-2pin/1922340_32905591074.html Looks like they've hit up Knowles drivers again. Astonishing that you can get 10 BAs for that price. Again, can't comment on their performance or response at this stage but certainly an interesting addition. A little upset to see that single bass driver though

For anybody interested -

The key with the originals is to use a 10mm leather punch on the button holes on your strap. That way the strap lies flat under the washer and the nut could be applied really tightly. After doing that, I have had zero issues. I wrote a guide many moons ago on head but I suspect the photos may be now broken due to the site change over. I'll take a look. I've head of people adding a bit of thread lock too.

Woah woah... let’s not forget that Line6 now has the know how of Nexo and Yamaha...!

Have the design flaws been ironed out after all these years? https://www.stringsdirect.co.uk/parts-c4/strap-buttons-strap-locks-c115/schaller-m86/s-locks-t1614

Can’t get better than all round excellence! top work all!

The secret is to split your signal into two channels on your mixer (or to two different mixers) and eq for front of house and eq for your inears. I’ve discussed quite a bit about this on the IEM thread - with many digital mixers you can do the split digitally internally and split the input to two separate channels. Depending on your mixer, the other cool thing when you split is that in addition to running different eqs, you can also run different compression and fx to foh if you wish.

Haha! I will wait on your progress with great interest. The 732s will put out a lot more than you think If anything, at least you know what you sound like out front now and made the necessary adjustments! So here's the thing... what you want from your inears and front of house may not be the same. Those that follow what I do on the IEM thread, will know that I have two signals - one for front of house, one for monitoring... meaning that I can run completely different EQs, compression (even models!) etc for front of house and my monitoring. It takes some twiddling - but I've never had such a great sound out front... and in my ears? Absolute heaven for me! :p

I'm not being snarky. As I've stated before, I'm not even an RCF fan... it's just those particular two cabs, the 735 and 745, that stand out from the competition. They are unique in their offering and why they should be thrown into the mix whenever a potential alternative is sought. They are a great option for a FRFR cab... or even a cab if you aren't looking for FRFR. I still don't quite know how they can pass those speakers through a distribution and dealer channel for the price that they do, given the drivers that are inside them. I don't think they have made a quantum leap out of weight, cost, efficiency, fidelity etc etc. It's what I state, for what they are, their performance is incredibly high - and noticeably so than their competition. They aren't particularly anything, they just hit the sweet spot for pretty much all attributes (although their looks are a bit marmite for most). We could argue passive vs active til the cows come home. It's been covered off on the forum many times before... but as a quick summary, you say passive speakers... but if you carry two passive cabs and an amp, and I carry two active cabs, I'm already a spare amp ahead of you. Active electronics in cabs obviously have to be fit for purpose... and in terms of scaling, daisy chaining an active array is easier than a passive as all you are doing is daisy chaining. As I say, positives and negative for both... probably not a discussion for this thread. For full disclosure, I'm an IEM user, so I don't really care what is happening as long as it sounds good in my ears. The PA, whatever it may be, whatever brand, can look after the projection to the masses. I don't like unnecessary sound on stage - the bleed you get from it f((ks everything up. You are right about mastering monitors... but I didn't pick p that requirement from the OP.

OK - so you were A/Bing against the QSC. Which model? - I would look through the FRFR thread if it was mentioned in there but it's probably just easier to ask you. I'm quite intrigued about the dispersal onstage as I would have thought they are quite similar? Are you talking about the high end frequencies? The Big Twin is a flat-ish response as you say - but not like a DSP flattened cab. But could understand why you haven't seen enough reason to change given what you've said.

So what was the consideration? Not a big enough reason to change? The cost to change? Preference for coloured tone over flat response?

PS @Wolverinebass Come to the dark side and kill Rock n Roll.

Will be interesting to hear your view.. because in the FRFR thread, there seems to be a 100% hit rate (except Al... but he'll get there in the end )- and people who have tried have moved from traditional cabs to PA cabs.

I'm glad you took the time to look through the video so you have a load of information on which to base a fully considered response. In regards to explanation, maybe you should watch the whole video... but the York notes is that the drivers and the subsequent crossover point that they allow for, are only found in setups that are vastly more expensive. The 4" VC on that horn alone takes it well beyond the specs of cabs that are in it's vicinity. If the 745 is too rich... then the performance of 735 will also outdo competitor cabs. Back to the vid - It's not really marketing material - Trinity take apart every single cab they get hold of so they can show people exactly what they are paying for. They are very fair and point out places where cost savings have been made for example. Going for the tech spec is fine - but the trouble is, not all tech specs are equal - and as an engineer, you should know that. Out of all the published technical specs, there's no independent validation. Think that you cab puts out 140dB. Put that down. Nobody will question it.... and if they do, so be it. The point is, the OP wanted - " Preferably light (naturally) with as faithful a response as you can get. In an ideal world, what I want is the signal which goes in sounds exactly like what comes out." - and that shout more of a FRFR cab than a passive bass cab that has a sound baked in. As you've stated, the DSP engineers out the inconsistencies in the response curve of, in this case, the RCF speaker... and that in itself is why the cab is flat response.... and in keeping with the OP's brief. I don't expect passive speakers to match a setup... but that's exactly why I offered it up as a suggestion... after all, the OP did request "Thoughts? Opinions? Missed anything?" And I'm not sure what the fascination with going deep is either... because for the vast majority of gigs, you will want to roll off a great deal of bass in that area anyway... unless you like listening to unprocessable mud. Your closing statement is probably more fair... and whilst I understand you are clearly a fan of Acme, when comparing size, the 745 actually appears comparable (and even smaller except for depth) than say, the Barefaced offering.

21:48 is where it's at. Check that. This guy does a much better explanation as to why these boxes are simply ridiculous for the money that they are.

Ooh. Deliveries (!) landing on Thursday. Can say I'm quite looking forward to it. 😛