EBS_freak

Ok - I guess the key thing is who has got access to the cabling. Is your FOH guy going to be the same guy who is cabling on stage? It’s all doable as long as you have time and have the comms and expectations laid out before you get to the venue. The worst thing you can have is an expectation that everything is in place and you have such a reliance on your setup being in place, your performance is put at risk. With that many vocal mics, you are defo looking at using a split no question. I think you need to be very clearer on your rider what you need - and get to the venue early. Also, make sure you have a 16 way snake of your own as suddenly requiring an extra 16 XLRs could really screw some venues (although I suspect you will wire the split into a rack? - that does potentially bring problems on stage as it depends where the venue stage box is and whether there’s physical space for a racked x32 to be sitting around). Also, are you looking at a rack x32 or physical slider one? Just revisited the x32 rack and yes, looks like you should be able to use the TRS aux outs (obv 1 per stereo side). You are right, you are limited on the bus count on the XR18. What you may want to look at is if a Y cable split post the isolated split from the splitter to feed a pair of XR18s may be order of the day... may work out cheaper and offer some redundancy. You have the opportunity of still going mono if one of the XR18s failed that way.

Is Jools even relevant anymore?

Rudimental and Nile... (as long as they are playing by themselves and not with Jools and his band spewing boogie over the top) as for the rest, meh.

I think I was too bust checking out the 20th Anniversary in the window of the Bass Centre around the corner.

That was good old Woz!

Wtf is that fossil?

Come join us in the IEM thread!

Killer of rock n roll 👍

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Sorry about delay... Christmas and all that. So in terms of practicality, well, that depends on the type of gig that you are going and if your sound man is your friend. How far up the pecking order you are on a gig is probably going to be quite key also. In short, it can be quite a bail ache... especially if there's quick turn arounds involved. If you are a playing in a support slot, than expect life to be very difficult for you. Front of house guys want to plug their mics and gear into their gear. If they go via your splits and your gear causes them issues, you aren't going to be very popular. Front of house guys will want to control the gain on the mics. They won't want the hassle of going into your split if you aren't the headline slot, thats for sure... especially if you aren't sticking around and you expect to remove your splitter from the stage. If you are looking to insert a splitter in-between bands... then I'd say defo forget it. The key thing is, if you can, talk with the sound guys in advance of the gig and tell them that you are planning on bringing a splitter so you can run a band run monitor world. Advance notice is always the polite thing to do and the sound guys are more likely to accommodate you. You haven't said what your line up in the band is. You may want to run independent mics to FOH so you are completely self sufficient. A mic on each guitar cab (or a split if using modellers etc) may be the way to go. The only issue is going to be with regard to vocal mics. Sound guys may be more accommodating if you you are looking only to split a vocal mic... or send you a vocal feed back via XLR to plug into your mixer from the FOH aux. Stereo mixes are preferable to mono if you can spare the auxes... so going X32 over XR18 will be preferable for a a 5 piece band. However, you are going to be struggling for aux outputs on a X32 without buying the extension rack/stage box. With regard to the XR18, remember you can use the LR as a monitor mix bus independent of the auxes - because the L/R isn't going to be sending anything out front. I haven't done the sums but you may be able to find something like a Mackie DL32R (an excellent monitor mixer) - that has the full I/O available to you without having to worry about extra break out boxes. (they are due to become Mac/PC and Android compatible to - currently only iOS).

Yup. And another one. Look what we've started here.

Man, no way is it a waste of money. It's a massive difference.

I’m out at the moment but will give you a run down later.

I don’t suppose anybody has a transcription before I sit down and do it...?

PS @stingrayPete1977 did you have a good colliers Boxing Day pie? Will get something in the diary soon! Bet you looking forward to getting the first IEM outing underway. You got everything sorted with your split desk setup now and EQed your bass to perfection? 👯‍♀️

If you can get a bigger tip in your ear, you are bound to get a better seal. The better seal you get, the more bass. The only thing you got to be careful of is that you don’t occlude the passage of air from the drivers to your inner ear - as that’s when things can start to sound weird. Was your mono/stereo issue whilst coming off an aux of the XR?

Defo worth a trip to see the ciem company - one stop shop to get everything sorted and you can get to try out all the i.e. to suit your budget. Although I have to say, given the budget you have stated, the ue6 would appear to be the obvious choice!

For a balanced armature mulitidriver, aim for a quad (treb, mid, bass, bass). You’ll get that from Lugs but you’ll struggle elsewhere. The UE6 is a hybrid triple so you have extended headroom in the mid and bass but still the detail in the highs due to the use of a balanced armature. Note, the low and mid drivers are dynamic drivers. i don’t believe that there’s anything else out there that comes close to the UE6 for the money... and I’ve heard a lot of stuff!

Shure make decent mics, not decent inears. Go straight to UE6. Do not pass Go. Do not collect £200. Shure cannot hold a candle to a set of custom UE6s. Snugs do not nail a custom fit like a custom IEM built for you. A UE6 can be in your possession in under a fortnight (once all this Christmas nonsense is out of the way). Seriously, with your budget, do not go for Shure.

The placement of the feedback on your back is flawed. Your back has the least nerve endings in your body and the placement of backbeat can be awkward. The concept is good but could be executed better imho. The best feedback is through the hips - hence I prefer the Woojer (you can also place it so it feeds back through your chest and back) although they probably aren’t as well known in music circles as they went for the gamers market.

What? You're going backwards? Still... bet you glad you still kept hold of the Helix! Are you still gigging with the other band - especially considering that you have invested so heavily in the item field. I guess that's what you call old school rock n roll!

Custom moulds is where it’s at. To be honest, with your diagnosis, they would be worth every penny. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk.

After headaches, managed to track the thing down and it’s now with a Shure - should arrive back after the weekend on Christmas Eve... fingers crossed. logistics companies are big poo faces

Guess I’ll find out more tomorrow @tonyf - the thing is, it needs to have been serviced and left from Shure by Thursday for delivery back to me on Friday otherwise it’ll not be til the New Year - which is a right ball as I got some gigs in between Xmas and NYE that I could really do with having it back. Of course, that is assuming that it miraculously gets found tomorrow. Im seriously considering trying to get this deal on watchdog or something - insurance for other people doing their job right is just ludicrous. And the thing is, I have to wait a stupid amount of time before I can make a claim - and then the claim process is always deliberately so that it’s difficult to actually get a pay out. Corrupt as.

FML. As if it wasn't enough losing my inears, my ULXD is now lost. FFS. Why can't a delivery company ever do what it's meant to do. And yet you take out insurance for them to do their job right. Ask yourself this... if you had a tradesman came into your premises to do work and they completely fck*ed it up... would you claim on their insurance? Why do you have pay insurance out for the safeguarding against THEM doing THEIR job properly? Absolutely raging.