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[quote name='AM1' post='444043' date='Mar 24 2009, 06:12 PM']We already discussed action though so I wondered if the relief had some specific influence on whether its harder to play or not.[/quote] Action meaning the distance between fingerboard and strings to press down upon...relief is the a more maker/luthier term for the bow of the neck...kinda the same thing...in terms of adjustment...this also includes bridge adjustment...height,spacing etc... High action in an unnatural...bowing of the neck,adjust the truss rod,and the 'relief' lowers the action... we now walk into terms of preferance..Low action accommodates taping styles and fast playing,but isnt to hot if you want to dig in and really give a real dig in,tone....bassier,thicker..phatter.. Think of the difference between Cliff Williams of AC/DC and say...Brian Bromberg or Michael Manring.. though this isnt exclusive.....its really a person to person thing... If you wander over to the Upright section and check out the bridges on the basses.....tell me what you see,take a pic.

[quote name='AM1' post='443791' date='Mar 24 2009, 02:13 PM']Could you elaborate on the relief bit please?[/quote] Distance of the bow of the neck in relation to the strings.....in other words 'Action'.

[quote name='josh3184' post='442941' date='Mar 23 2009, 07:21 PM']silly ARGH, sound and price aren't always linked Used a rockbass streamer for a while, playability wasn't all there for my liking, but the sound was. Might want to wait a bit until the new range of rockbasses come out as this will either lower the price of the older one or you might find you prefer the newer one. Easiest way to tell the difference is to see whether it has a one piece bridge (Mark 1) or two piece (Mark 2)[/quote] No but build quality and tone can be..... Cheap basses are great in the bedroom,get them cranked and they sound horrid....and they break,bad pots,bad jacks,bad fretwork,bad necks...bad nut,bad bad bad BAD!! Things have got better in recent years with far eastern made instruments!

How much is it?

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='442218' date='Mar 23 2009, 09:19 AM']Agreed but when the ego takes over the music then it becomes cringeworthy.[/quote] As would laziness. What is ego...being capable of doing something someone else cant do? I doubt ,but maybe, you listen to Wagner,or Mozart Wayne but those guys were WAYYY worse than any Madonna figure or R'N'B rap artist for demands and social retardation.. But they could walk it like they talked it....Thats why they stand the test of time,Jamerson was a mentalist,but without him we wouldnt have half of what we have now musically as Bassists.....Sheehan is part of that,pushing our instrument forward. I bet Sheehan's a way nicer guy,than a ton of us on here as a person,I really went off him when I found out the 'Scientology' thing was part of his makeup,but thats his choice,and he does not ram it down throats unlike some....And if you actually (AND THIS GOES FOR ALL THE CHILDREN READING) watch AND LISTEN to the vids that Bills talking upon,trying to explain his style of play as best he can,rather than childish 'Oh my god 80s hair' comments...you might ...just might ....actually learn something about theory,technique, or musicality you didnt know of before.

[quote name='Faithless' post='442667' date='Mar 23 2009, 05:02 PM']It feels like a bit of a 'mess' about this Billy Sheehan [i]thing[/i].. I mean, when it comes to [i]guitards[/i]....... ok ok, and bassists, who do all that damn [i]shredding-tapping-slapping[/i] typo thing, we call them 'w***ers, who can't make any [i]music [/i]outta it' and such, but, when it comes to Sheehan - oh, look, he's God.. Or am I'm [i]simply [/i]missing something there? No matter what, I'll get my coat whenever you ask [/quote] Because,bar the Vai vs Bill dramatics,which is what the crowd who wanna see that sort of thing pay for,Billy actually puts his style of play into something that fits... 90% of Mr Big Lps were straight forward,route 1 Rock Bassplaying,His work with Diamond DLR...His work on the G3 tours...Guess what..pretty much straight forward rock Bassplaying...played well,in time,in tune.....kinda what most of do in our bands,and he's getting paid for it too.... I dont see how people can shout "EGO" when they see a solo by a Bassist...Thats such a backward way of thinking.

Get on the train and go to Electromusic in Donny....failing that...if you drive go to NorthAllerton,the guys in there (Tinman knows the shops name) are diamonds,its a small shop off the main drag... Ive a black P from 96,its dinged to f***,and it does not show,it just depends on the undercoats for the finish....

I agree...extension cab is the way my friend...I reckon 10s will open your world!

Yes...I also look forward to the day I can stop playing and get on with my life.. But I cant...and I really enjoy making windows rattle.....

What style of music are you playing?

Talbot,Burnley... 1st gig for me,with the band on home turf....we kicked ass.

[quote name='funkle' post='441487' date='Mar 22 2009, 06:12 AM']From [url="http://www.playerschool.com/admissions/tuition-and-costs/48"]http://www.playerschool.com/admissions/tuition-and-costs/48[/url] : $3800 for tuition for the 10 week course. Now add in flights, food, accommodation, insurance, car rental, petrol, incidentals, etc. It wasn't cheap, but I am one heck of a better musician for it.[/quote] Thats the bit Im wondering about...the excess's on top....im writing a budget here What are we talking about in total,say per week of being there?

I seriously consider going to Jeffs school...how much is the 10 weeker going to cost at todays rates??

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='441330' date='Mar 21 2009, 09:02 PM']Just looks like a pair of egos to me.[/quote] S'pose I put a NOFX vid on...and said it was 4 talentless c**ts,that are 'Packaged rebellion'....Could you discern the absurdity of both statements...? I love it when people decry anything where education or hard experience makes it unique. You might not want to do it,Billy's style of play,but its different,it challenges convention....it still provokes divide and opinion 25..near 30 years after he first came to light upon music.... Isnt that a far far more...a greater musical and social statement...isnt it a darned sight more 'punk' than another syncopated mechanically created 'modern' ska band?

Its from 88-89

A big fat shut the f*** up to the antiSheehan collective. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p49yndQKoFE&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p49yndQKoFE...feature=related[/url]

Well he must be able to groove and play AND be flash if hes done over 6000 gigs!

Ive seen still shots of him on the upright looking away,might be because he was not used to the change of scale between instruments.?

Jim Fleeting of Ripon Made my headless 6 [url="http://luthiery.co.uk/"]http://luthiery.co.uk/[/url] Nice guy too.

From the short time Ive had the upright,note placement,you cant just rake and beat and thump and hash your way through the tune.... Its the 1st instrument to teach me the importance of clarity.

[quote name='stevie' post='439717' date='Mar 19 2009, 08:57 PM']We should have guessed. I bet you're a closet John Denver fan, too. [/quote] Jim Reeves and Conway Twitty... That Denver boy needs a haircut and some manners!

Maybe...I should have inserted a smiley.... I'll get back to my Horlicks and Val Doonican.....Wheres my Arran sweater....

I think you are talking about fitting into a sonic pocket.....And it can take a lifetime to find it... Think how Jamerson had it,he came from the upright players perspective,where you HAD to make the instrument work....you were the volume..you were the tone,and there was no hiding the fact.... I feel I would have rather learnt the Bass that way!

Its a question of fashion,and do you really give a toss what people think you should look like. What constitutes a 'Fully grown man' kiddo?