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[quote name='Adrenochrome' post='439559' date='Mar 19 2009, 06:41 PM']Couple of points - if you go for the 2 pup, 2 output way, do you trust the average soundman to reproduce both signals properly and blend them well? In normal(ish) tunings, you might want to back off the distortion a tiny bit to get a fuller sound and maybe use a level boost during guitar solos?[/quote] Its going to take a long convo with our soundman,but he seems capable..... If I was going back to regular tuning,in covers and functions work,I'd probably just run the instrument like a normal P. I had a natter to Jim earlier about it too.

No it isnt.

Im there fella,Im doing that..Ive been in 1 guitar bands both in functions and originals for on/off 15 years. Im up against a classic Marshall/Metalzone and Gibson player....Its route one,and I was brought up with the problem as a kid,How to fill...Im doing the job fairly well,but I feel theres more,and I could be doing more. I dont scoop mids,I rev them,its just extra Bass,without mud..Everythings pretty ok when both of us are playing,Im trying to dish out as much during solos. I dont want the 'Pantera' problem....using a clean Bass sound,under a solo,and watch the heavy leave the room,Im trying to Motorhead things without just being one colour. Is that an understandable explanation?

So in effect..the 'Willpower' might be a better idea...as it matches a Fenders string spacing?

[quote name='Jase' post='439260' date='Mar 19 2009, 02:12 PM']No, it was a Dimarzio. They're black but I took the paint off with paint stripper...it's the model that doesn't line up with the string spacing.[/quote] Does that affect tone or output or anything??

Is that a Gibbo Fartbucker?? Looks silver....... Anyone got a wiring diagram for the Attitude mkI or II??? Anyone play one...? What does what to what...lotta switches and stuff there!!!

[quote name='Jase' post='439124' date='Mar 19 2009, 12:37 PM']Ha! Well,the boundaries of bass have to be pushed....36 frets? yeah, you may aswell chuck one in then [/quote] You got any pics of the Modded Bass Jase??

Thing is,the wannabe guitarist tag....If you actually know anything about Sheehan,you know thats totally untrue!

No the 6 is headless.... Jase,theres No more room its got 36 frets already!!

[quote name='chris_b' post='439067' date='Mar 19 2009, 11:51 AM']Leave the bass and get a preamp. You'll get more useable tones out of a Sadowky preamp, for instance.[/quote] What will that give me...Ive never tried one??. Well Im running quite a dirty signal from The Tech 21 stack,and its ok,but sometimes a feel I need a..or a little...clean in there..Ive toyed with 8 string ideas,but in the low tuning its a silly idea. But Im trying to fill the room.... I worry for the sake of it,but this isnt GAS I swear,its about trying to do my job,and doing it better than the last or next guy (or girl).

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='439061' date='Mar 19 2009, 11:42 AM']What happened to the 9?[/quote] Its in the corner...still gets played,gonna write a few tunes for it in the next few months with ICON...Scott insists...Ive a feeling Im gonna write a ballad on it. ICON wrote their lp and recorded it before I joined,the bassist quit after finishing his lines,and Ive come onboard..so its the next summer or 2 in drop C...and writing for the next lp (Ive retuned,and turned the geetar to drop A..and shown him the wonders of upgraded pickups) using the 6 and 9. But for whats written and what we are performing live,its silly to use more than a 4. Songwise Ive rewritten a good amount of the parts,they kinda were lazy and more guitar rather than drums,and theres a lot of melody that could be used,that isnt..and the drummers admitted that he has always followed the guitarist in any bands he's been in,in his own words Im the first fingerstyle Bassist he could actually hear...seeing as there are not many 'Bassplayers' out there,and Bass as Bass and drums in a ryth section in Metal as a genre is pretty much dead...(there are an awful lot of BAD metal Bassholders) its a learning curve for all of us. But I do get a solo....

[quote name='Jase' post='439051' date='Mar 19 2009, 11:32 AM']Funny you should ask....I did at one point get Dave Dearnley to scallop the last 3 or 4 frets but it was on my "testing or prototype" bass a Charvel Model 3b, he also replaced the rosewood board for a maple one....I never really used them though. On my Fender I didn't have the scallops.[/quote] Is there any actual advantage to doing that though??

Bi amping might be the way! Combo for the dirt -- 1x15 for the clean Trying another pedal could be the answer....

[quote name='Shaggy' post='439015' date='Mar 19 2009, 10:48 AM']I've got a model 1 if you want me to check string spacing! In the early 80's I once put one in an old P bass copy in the [b]bridge[/b] postion to make a "poor man's Stingray" - being flush with the body it was rather too low, but sounded pretty good.[/quote] please! You up for selling it??

[quote name='OldGit' post='439007' date='Mar 19 2009, 10:38 AM']How about trying one of these [url="http://www.fender.com/products//search.php?partno=0194060720"]American Deluxe[/url][/quote] Nice,thankyou OG,But Im looking for low....the Fartbucker might give me that..I dont have the cash,or the space for yet another instrument,Im trimming my collection as we speak... Co-incidentally Jase,did you go the whole hog and do the scalloping on the fingerboard too?

Just read this,and totally disagree

[quote name='yorick' post='438959' date='Mar 19 2009, 09:50 AM']No............ [/quote] Back that up with?

Its graphic proof,thats some people are very very petty.....it was over the whole instrument. So,guys and girls...any ideas,is it worth the routing?

Ive a 96 Fender,I lost the original P/U in a court case 6 years ago,so its always and will always have this battered,roadworn,DiMarzio P,in it.....Now the Band Im in plays in Drop C,and its only one guitarist,and I try to 'fill' the sonic space left as much as I can...using the timbres of the lowest strings up high,plucking...wellllll....striking the strings to get as many overtones as I can,and generally I have my 'Distortomatic' sound giving it laldi.... Im trying to fill the room,but summats missing in the sound.... Anyways ,I finish rehearsals last night,wander in,and have a surf on the web...and I see old Sheehan and recall the Model one mod that the 'Wife' had.... Now I dont have much sentiment over instrument value,But has anyone ever done the 'Billy' and had the whole routing and fartbucker fitted...dual outputs the whole sheebang.. But is it worth it,am I trashing a decent pretty much stock instrument,for very little benefit sonically....AND it trashes my spine,and will probably be only playing in this key for the next 18 months...2 years at best! I also heard the Model one dosent line up with the strings...so anyone got a 'Willpower' to compare???

Ive never played a Wal with a neck dive problem ever,yes they are heavy,but Ive played heavier Jazz's and Stingers and P's. I wanted one 10-12 years ago...when they used to be found for £850-1200 depending on condition and model. Still would.

Save time,save effort,save your sanity.... Save money and buy custom!

I have to say Bilbo..in my genre of playing,producers are actually trying to bring back the idea of a ryth section,actually teaching Bassists what the instrument can do rather than double the guitar all the time.

Reusable cable ties..buy an extra seat,and buy it a drink...its got to enjoy itself

[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='437631' date='Mar 17 2009, 06:00 PM']Seems to me that Jeff Berlin only teaches/advocates one aspect of being a pro - technical/musical ability.[/quote] Would you let an unqualified idiot rewire your house? Fit a Gas central heating system in?

[quote name='Eight' post='437664' date='Mar 17 2009, 06:49 PM']Ah cool. I think the reputation of music theory has been ruined by the old school piano teacher type person, who looks down on anyone who doesn't want to learn every nuance of theory and just enjoys playing (and may do pretty well for themselves in that). I thought they were a dying breed, but I wonder if Berlin is one of them. That kind of attitude does nothing to encourage people to see theory in the right light and to consider it for themselves. You just get people's backs up. Edit: Forgot I wanted to say that how you judge yourself is regardless of whether you choose theory or not. Its important to be able to be realistic about your abilities, know where you're weak and choose whether to do something about it. I can no more judge my potential based on Bach's knowledge of theory than a non-reader etc. can judge theirs based on Jimi Hendrix. Edit 2: I realise Hendrix placed that hideous six stringed instrument, not a respectable bass such as the fine folk here.[/quote] I came up against that,but its not old school banging about theory,its about the traditional position of instruments..Bass does this,Sax does that,Violas do...etc etc Thats the mindset you are fighting against,I was..things are diffeent,but the standards of acceptable learning,and in some cases education are falling.