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Returning to Pick Playing - Now to get the right tone
BassAdder60 replied to a topic in General Discussion
You’re right the 16 isn’t huge but I will run the pedals off my Truetone One Spot which is how I’ve done it before and daisy chain the pedals. -
Returning to Pick Playing - Now to get the right tone
BassAdder60 replied to a topic in General Discussion
Will be adding both pedals to a Pedaltrain Metro 16 and later add a floor tuner too -
Returning to Pick Playing - Now to get the right tone
BassAdder60 replied to a topic in General Discussion
Ok folks so an update after rehearsals night. Played all songs using a pick ( Nylon Jim Dunlop 1.25mm ) The most important point I noticed was I had to back off a load of low mids in the EQ section of the ABM600 Using Shape Off ( On sounding too boomy ) and this gave the tone a perceived depth yet still punchy. High mids and treble still present for clarity and tone on PBass backed off for some songs and opened up for others ( Green Day etc ) I was back to using my Ampeg Opto Compressor and that works really well keeping a tight thumpy sound. The image shows my settings just before I turned up to band level on the master volume ( around 9/10 o clock ) Next I’ve got the Ampeg SCR-DI coming to run up front before the compressor which I think will sound good and give me the scrambler drive option. I think I’m getting close to the tone I like and that fits with the band -
I’m loving my Squire Classic Vibe 70’s PBass .. seems to be a decent bass with reasonable quality parts
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Returning to Pick Playing - Now to get the right tone
BassAdder60 replied to a topic in General Discussion
Did this earlier this year I must own every variant of pick you can buy now !! Im liking the variation I can get in different pick gauges and materials I think I’ve found the pick for me now so that part of the equation is nearly sorted. Amazing the difference in tone from using say nylon to Tortex or Delrin -
Looks fantastic Regarding the shape feature ( Out position on the ABM ) I am finding that the best EQ for pick playing as it adds a lot of depth to the sound. What I do though is boost the 340HZ to bring back the low mids and back off slightly the main bass ( 40hz ) so it’s not too flubby when playing the low E string etc Its not easy to mimic it with Shape IN ie off and using EQ as I’ve tried and you cannot quite get there. It’s like having your own select for pick playing button !
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Returning to Pick Playing - Now to get the right tone
BassAdder60 replied to a topic in General Discussion
Just ordered some 2mm Prime Grip to try 👍 -
Returning to Pick Playing - Now to get the right tone
BassAdder60 replied to a topic in General Discussion
I agree but my guitarist isnt using a really heavy bass tone I notice the difference more with the drums tone and the bass guitar tone -
I’m about to start using the Shape “out” on my ABM600 as I plan to pick play instead of fingers I think the shape ( pulls mids etc) makes pick playing an easier result as you get bottom end and top clarity
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I’m a lover of playing bass with a pick as it suits the rock stuff I play but I keep holding off using a pick as the fullness of bass tone with fingers is also a great tone and I’m about to set myself a task … 1: achieve a great tone using a pick with as much fullness as I can get 2: still achieve that great pick clarity 3: sit well in the mix ( single guitar band, guitarist uses Marshall 4x12 Im using a PBass loaded with nickel rounds and my ABM600 through my Ampeg SVT212AV cab About to add the Ampeg Opto compressor and Ampeg Scrambler drive pedal for max punch and a bit of grind when required Will probably use the Shape Out on the ABM and add a little mids back to give me the most full bottom end Any tips for making this work where I don’t feel lacking in that warm full finger tone sound ?
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My first ever bass amp was Marshall !
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Having returned to the bass playing world three years ago I have found that some of the amp choices for us bass players seem somewhat wanting. Having played big heavy Ampeg SVT CL heads in the past and before that Ashdown ABM I can never recall we thought they were lacking in heft and power. Today with so many amp choices and many now Class D for the light weight option they do appear to have more issues with either cutting out, early failures, difficult to repair, and wattage ratings that do not seem to match the perceived output volume. I will say that for some folks it’s not an issue if you get your sound through venue PA rigs but when you need your own amp to do the work having the power to project and be heard is vital. Im not knocking class D as it’s the future but I’ve had more faulty, problematic, lacking in power amps since I’ve tried class D compared to say the ABM600 which is an amp I believe I can trust in it’s power, heft and ability to be repaired if required.
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Definitely get the 15 as I’ve heard people say the single 12 is boxy sounding
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I agree it should of been loud, it was but perhaps not as loud as I expected it could be. We do rehearse at very loud levels sometimes as it’s our chance to blow away the cobwebs. Probably too loud for a typical large pub but as a comparison my ABM600 master is on around 9 to 10 o clock and it’s louder than the PF800 or seems it for sure.
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The input was at approx 3pm and red light occasionally flickering. The input pad was not engaged Master was as 12:00 o’clock and this was our rehearsal rooms ( loud rock band ) Using my SVT212AV cab that is normally a very loud cab Maybe the PF give out their power in the latter part of the output volume but after reading about PF shutdown issues and now the odd whining noise on start up it’s time to say goodbye.
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I think refund .. I’m sure there is a better choice out there for me in the Ampeg range just haven’t found it yet. Needs to be a powerful loud amp but not all valve. I’ve played in the past SVT CL heads and SVT3Pro ( under powered ) PF500 and PF800
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Final update it’s booked to go back. Noticed a funny whining sound coming from it at startup ( not the fan ) That was the final nudge to return and pop the ABM 600 back on top spot
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Ok amp report .. tried the PF800 with the band Nice amp and great tone .. but .. It seems to be underpowered in comparison too which is disappointing for a 800w head. Will try again with perhaps stronger input signal and see how it fairs
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Ashdown Rootmaster 210 with the wick turned up
BassAdder60 replied to lownote's topic in Amps and Cabs
And … it’s rock and roll ! -
Ashdown Rootmaster 210 with the wick turned up
BassAdder60 replied to lownote's topic in Amps and Cabs
It’s rock and roll .. always sounds better loud !! -
I liked the Ampeg Di a lot it’s a great pedal and definitely has the Ampeg tone. Mine was used briefly in front of my RM800 head Eventually I sent it back as for near £200 it was a luxury I didn’t really need. I tried several well known Preamp pedals but the Ampeg was the nicest for me and rock
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How would the B6 fair in a gig situation with amp / cab and no PA support for say rock covers ? Im interested in sounds and effects that would be needed but as a puritan of normal bass sounds / tone I’m wondering if it would be total overkill Also any noticeable tone suck from it ran front of amp ?
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Ashdown Rootmaster 210 with the wick turned up
BassAdder60 replied to lownote's topic in Amps and Cabs
Indeed that was also recommended to me with my ABM cabs Wish Ashdown used better drivers as stock but I guess it’s all about price and profit -
It will need to be very good to take prime role but there is definitely something good about Ampeg tone.
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I’m liking the PF800 a lot and it will be put to the test at a loud rehearsal soon. There is a difference to the EQ on the Ampeg ( easier to get a great sound ) compared to my ABM600 which has so many more sounds. The compressor on the Ampeg is really nice too Watch out ABM as you may be relegated to back up amp status !!