Phil Starr

How are you getting on with this now? Did you make the change to Presonus one?

Power amps are designed to provide lot's of clean power for PA systems. They are almost all stereo amps. A bass amp is just one with the pre-amp and a power amp in a single box. The advantage of the power amp is that you can buy very high powered amps if you wish and because more are sold they are often a cheaper way of getting very high power. The price per watt tends to be less. Many people like fiddling and are very interested in having what they think of as 'the best'. Just look at anglers, car modders and the like and you can see they spend a fortune on Gear Aquisition Syndrome and musicians too can suffer from GAS. I've seen great bassists with the best of everything and great bassists with the pile of tat they have played for 40 years. there isn't right or wrong. There was more point to this when bass amps were less powerful but as you've already found out the output stages are clean and if you go through the fx loop you don't need to spend on another power amp.

I think either of these will be ideal for the use you intend and will sound good into the bargain, but not the same. The best thing you could do would be to look at both and make a decision by trying them out, you'll also get an idea of the weight. Both are essentially reliable amps, the Peaveys of that era had a great reputation for being built like a tank. Ashdown have a reputation for after sales second to none and still support their old amps. My first two amps were a peavey 2x15 of that era and a MAG 600 both good but different. However these are both old amps and components can deteriorate unpredictably, there are dozens of these out there still working though so you will probably be lucky and at that price if they work for a year that is only 30p a day. If they do break then everything is replaceable/repairable unlike more modern equipment. Like the others i don't like the customisation on the Ashdown and wonder if any other mods have been done but these prices for that sort of giggable amp you can't really go wrong. Just try before you decide.

I might as well confess it is my amp that broke, I've never said that Markbass make unreliable gear. I dropped the amp off a stack (well someone else knocked the stack over) and I was unlucky. What I question is the business practices involved and the attitude to consumers along with the environmental implications. I'd make a comparison with car manufacturers. They've been trying to create a situation where you have to go to a main dealer for everything. New models come out with special tools needed for even basic maintenance and the diagnostic software is only made available to licenced outlets who have to pay huge fees to get properly updated. Parts only come in major assemblies and aren't repairable at component level. Certain models now are only 'sold' through lease schemes. Within this there is an attempt to create a monopoly situation where the manufacturer has total control of their product and the consumer no rights. Their policies also mean they control end of life. If they control the cost of parts and repairs then they control the point where the cost of repair is greater than the used value of a car makes it uneconomic to repair. The same thing is happening with mobile phones, security updates for most Android phones are generally only for two years according to a recent 'Which' survey, coincident with the end of the contract periods for most people. Apple do a little better. We all know the printer ink scam, buy a printer for £50 but get locked into a model where the profit comes entirely from the sale of inks with extensive measures to make the provision and use of third party inks difficult. The environmental costs of a throwaway model for consumer goods are extraordinary. Just the manufacture of a mobile phone creates over 80kg of CO2 according to 'New Scientist' plus the cost of mining for the various rare earth and other metals used in their manufacture. I can't believe much less is involved in an amp (class D or otherwise) The EU is currently legislating to make repairability a duty for manufacturers but in the end it is our attitude to this which will make a difference.

Like many I use the Zoom B1ON/B1-Four Good headphone sound, Line in and runs about a week's worth of practice on rechargeable batteries. Built in tuner and drum machine/metronome. You can run it off a power supply or just a USB charger if you prefer. Best of all it's £64 Don't be put off by all the extras, which you don't have to use. It's got all the effects you could want and a looper but you don't have to touch them. There are plenty of pre set sounds that just sound OK to good and for me it is just a plug and play practice machine.

I'm new to pedals but someone bought me a Behringer BDI21 for my birthday recently, a clone of the Sansamp apparently. The damn thing just works, sprinkling fairy dust on my sound. It sounds like you are dipping your toes into the water and this is a really cheap way to start out. I've also been using the Zoom B1ON (now replaced by the Zoom B1-four) as a practice/headphone amp and tuner when playing live. It's a multi effect thing, too fiddly to use on stage but has emulations of lots of pedals built in. I'm starting to use it as a way of exploring what I find useful and what isn't. I feel a compressor might be next.

This is absolutely my experience too. There is no substitute for legwork when you are trying to break into new venues. I use Lemonrock heavily for my research too. Before you go out make sure you have good video and sound recordings easily accessible. A lot of pubs don't have good IT skills so expect their websites and social media to be set up by the aforesaid wife's nephew's second cousin and not updated since he went to sixth form college two years ago. Anyone running a successful pub is likely to be on their knees with overwork so don't expect them to do anything. My most successful experience was when I took a bluetooth speaker and an iPad out with me and just played our band's latest recordings. We got three bookings from five pubs, but we went when it was quiet. We checked they had un-booked dates before we left and that they booked our sort of band. Lemonrock is really strong in some areas and not so much in others. It is currently listing 60+ gigs within 30 miles of me next week. It's very old-fashioned but has great functionality for searches but most importantly a lot of pubs use it to search for bands, you'll get a few calls for last minute cancellations which if you turn them into repeat gigs makes it a worthwhile site.

I've had the same experience with MB and there are many more than two of us . It is increasingly difficult to repair any consumer electronics or even electrical goods and this is nothing to do with class D. It's to do with technological innovation and the way the consumer market works. Most amps now are built with surface mount components and multi level circuit boards. Those components are too small to handle by hand almost impossible to un-solder and re-solder but incredibly cheap and usually reliable. With a lot of things being done digitally you can get a lot of components that aren't always made after the end of a production run so spares are tricky/impossible to source. To keep costs down a lot of amps have everything on a single board so a single component going down stops anything else in the amp working. How many of us repair and maintain our own cars now? However MB have decided not to release the circuit diagrams or make parts available and have contracted out the customer support to another company, Real Electronics. Effectively they are refusing a relationship with their UK customers post sale. Beyond the guarantee period you are on your own.

This. doing something about hard plastic feet is going to solve the problem but the panel it sits on is clearly vibrating a lot if it is picking up the amp and moving it around. Some simple bracing will be a really worthwhile DIY upgrade to the cab.

Overloading the output stage of a valve amp as a way of getting nice distortion is slightly complex and is due to the nature of the tubes themselves, the architecture of the amp and the presence of an output transformer. Each valve amp will have its own flavour of distortion too. overloading pretty much any stage of a solid state amp a causes a different sound from valve outputs. Chopping off the peak of the waveform as the limits of the voltage swing available is reached. It sounds pretty bad and I don’t really think it’s worth your while going there. Find a flavour of drive pedal you like and use that.

I've just recently done just this. Mine is a MIA Jazz but a Highway One the entry level model at the time. It's a lovely thing to play but the finish a bit basic and it looks like it was made of all the unused parts laying around the factory. Anyway Jazz basses are noisy as the PUPs are single coils and pick up a lot of electrical noise. It is worth checking the grounding of the bridge but even if it is good you'll still get the problem you describe. So I went for noiseless PUP's. After a lot of reading I decided there was no information around as to what was good. A friend of mine had built a J and fitted the Fender noiseless pups so in the end I stuck with Fender. It works, the noise is a thing of the past and it is now quieter than my P. It's a bit darker sounding than the originals due to the extra coils which filter out some of the top end. You'll have to re set the eq's you use and I also tend to dial in more bridge PU than before but I'm now preferring the new tone. One bonus is the the old Pups tended to boom on the E string and that has been tamed with the sound generally more even across the fret board. Classier but less characterful but that suits me, I lack class They just dropped in but they are deeper than the originals and I had to shave down the foam 'spring' by about 5mm. You get a pair of spares with the pup's anyway.

I think you'll find what the experts are saying is that there is no reason for them to sound different. Neo or Ceramic they are just magnets and you can shape the magnetic field how you want at the design stage.

I used to repair stuff for people and with old amps you could source all the components and often get circuit diagrams that speed the process of repair. Most of the gear was UK made and there was infra structure to support repairs. Now a lot of the chips are customised and components surface mounted on multi-layer boards so even de-soldering becomes tricky. Companies differ in their support too. I've recently repaired a Wharfedale PA and they were great, components in stock and supplied return of post. Behringer came up trumps too with a brand new amp board at a really good price. I've got a broken MB here and it's defeated me. It's possible it is something simple but not likely from the symptoms and it is switching on so not just a fuse. If the OP can find somebody who will open it up and look for £20 I'd take their arm off but for £40 I'd be thinking nah... How much is a second hand Blackline worth? The boards may be cheaper for one of these, it might be worth getting a quote from Real Electronics.

Markbass stuff isn't really repairable any more, they don't provide any circuit diagrams and use some hard to get components. Most repair shops won't touch them for this reason. All repairs have to go through Real Electronics who have a monopoly and behave accordingly. Repairing amps incurs their fixed charges and almost always a board replacement. It does mean your amp comes back new except for the case but will cost you upwards of £200 as you have been advised. A new amp is £220 at GAK with a three year guarantee so don't bother.

It's really hard to tell the extent of the damage from your pics but it looks as if the metal speaker baskets might be bent, distorted. If that is the case there is no economical repair and you need to replace the drivers. If the baskets are OK then a re-cone is a possibility if you/someone can identify the drivers. That may cost something approaching the cost of new drivers so it would make sense to price both before starting that process. Replace like for like if that is possible. The speakers will have to match the existing ones and also the cab which is clearly ported. Steaming involves having a controlled source of steam which uses heat and water to soften both the treatment on the surround and the paper pulp of the cone. For the cone at least the combination breaks down the bonds that bind the wood fibres together and is also used to bend wood into curves. I've successfully steam ironed paper back into shape and made a wooden hoop for a banjo but trying to do this with precision on a speaker cone would be.... interesting. Getting the cone wet would be likely to cause it to distort more. If you want to take the damaged drivers out and give us a better look we'd be in a better position to advise but I suspect identifying and replacing the damaged drivers is the only route liable to be successful. Aged horse will be giving you good advice. FWIW I can see no way that damage was caused in transit

Watching the news on Al Jazeera with the usual round of misery we got to discussing the politics of the day until I was distracted by the sight of someone carrying a mic stand rather than a Kalashnikov. This is just a lovely, inspiring film in rural Rwanda confirming musicians everywhere share so much more than they don't. The point where people who don't share a language start to harmonize.... Anyway 15 mins of pure pleasure Sounds of Home: A Musical Odyssey in Rwanda I Documentary | Africa Direct - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onHzJHWrTiU

Ignore the insane ratings. The engineers designed a 200W cab then the advertisers doubled the power on the outside of the box and then doubled it again in some of the far fetched advertising. It's sadly normal to measure the power handling then claim an extra 3db as 'music power' and an extra 6db as 'peak power' 200W is the continuous power handling. If you don't run into distortion it means the speakers are happy but would you be able to detect the distortion? It's really unlikely that you will drive the speakers too hard at home and you almost certaily are going to be fine. 500W into 400W of cab is probably going to be ok too unless you use a lot of bass boost or a lot of distortion/overdrive. This set up wouldn't worry me but just be careful if you end up with a power crazed guitarist who won't turn down or a particularly loud drummer. Four little 8" speakers might just struggle.

Is it worth thinking differently then? You want a compact PA because your current PA is too bulky but the Evox is fairly compact, those subs aren't a lot bigger than a 312. You want a relatively low cost solution becuse you are about to buy an expensive Evox system but the £1000 for your compact PA could be used to bring forward the purchase of the Evox. Have you tried the 310's as a PA? They are pretty capable and you'll only be using it for the smaller venues. If you aren't using backline or in-ears how are you proposing to have monitoring on-stage?

In-ears?

Hi Al, just for context we currently use ART310's for small gigs and rehearsals and have a second pair as monitors. For most gigs we use QSC'S but I have subs for the bigger gigs. They only get a run out once a year probably. My duo go out with no backline and the combination of the floor monitors and ART310's are more than adequate for bass. It's worth looking at the maximum output for the RCF speakers you are only getting 1db extra when you move to the 312 and 2db for the 315. You'll get a better low end of course by going for bigger speakers but it's not a big increase in sound levels if you stick within the ART 3 series. Something like the ART 912 promises an extra 3db as well as a better bass driver. I take the output figures with a pinch of salt of course but within a manufacturers ratings there should be enough consistency to make decisions. That makes your 'budget system' £1,000 but that's a saving over QSC's or ART732's. Is your plan for no backline or is this just going for a fully mixed system?

I've found the same with Thomann. they had a short hiatus when Brexit happened but sorted it and are back here. Obviously that was a local problem that wouldn't apply over there.

As the OP of the 'more problems' thread I'll try and save you the bother of reading it all. This was at the beginning of our self-inflicted departure from the EU trading area arrangements. I ordered a number of parts from DV247 in three separate orders. There were problems with all three separate orders but i did eventually get what I ordered (more or less anyway). I think it's fair to say that Brexit played it's part, their customer service has always been poor and there was an earlier thread about this hence the 'more problems'. I took the attitude at first that the big box centres are bound to have more complaints even if statistically the proportion of mistakes was the same as a local store. I'd just been unlucky. However they repeatedly lied to me and made promises they broke. It became apparent that their tracking systems were almost non-functional and their staff demoralised. The honest ones were pretty honest. My experience was that delivery could be great but if anything went wrong there was no system in place for correcting it. the UK base was helpful but powerless to affect any German response if the computer said no. It may all be fixed now as the immediate pressure of Brexit has diminished but my belief is that there was an underlying management issue with their staff and customers being kept in the dark and fed horse manure. If there is an issue between the UK and the parent company I suspect there may be the same lack of care between the USA and the parent. I have no evidence of this but personally would be careful. Dealing with warranty issues may be problematic.

Fender basses are known for their variability and that is especially true of the MIA ones. Mexico seems to make them with better consistency. Some of the American ones are great and others not so good as the Mexican ones. In fact most of us seem to think that a good Mexican Fender is a great gigging bass. If you have a bass you love and which plays well it is almost priceless. You love this one so cherish it. £576 for an American P is a good price, I'd buy it at that price. MIA basses over here have extra value when you sell because of the USA connection even if the MIM ones are just as good. I love my two basses both US Fenders I won't sell them whist I can still stand so the re-sale value isn't important, I just love playing them and that is where their value lays for me. You've found a great bass, you are a lucky guy.

Do you have a budget in mind? If it is a back up only you have quite a few options. Tiny size, Cheap or a real second amp would be my first decision. I bought a Peavey Minimax as my first choice backup. It is way nicer sounding than my Mark Bass Tube IMO so it became my gigging amp. It was cheap at the time but the Bugera and the cheaper TC amps are still avaialble around that price. I then bought a Warwick Gnome to use for acoustic gigs. With efficient speakers it's more than loud enough for a stage monitor in an emergency and the DI out is good so putting something through the PA is simple. It fits in my gig bag or a (large) pocket. That's my backup to carry to every gig as it takes no space. If you are going for some of the full fat options suggested then you might as well choose the one which will give you the sound you like best. The output stages are all very similar so you are really looking at the tone options which suit you best.

That is extraordinary! @Ashdown Engineeringoffering to repair an amp that old for free! Your local repair shop would charge you more than 30 to open it up and look at it. I'd definitely factor the after sales Ashdown offer into the mix. I've no real criticism of the Bugera but it's a totally different beast. Very clean sounding, cheap as chips and no support or reparability past the guarantee period.