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[quote name='phil.i.stein' post='970964' date='Sep 28 2010, 06:12 PM']there is a lot of snobbery directed at different styles of slap-playing. stick to learning those players you like, and incorporate that into your own syle/sound/fx/whatever. different strokes etc..[/quote]i dont think sticking to just players you like, is the right way to go...or maybe it is in this instance...depends what you want to achieve..to get an original well rounded slap technique i think its important to look at all styles...imo

[quote name='JTUK' post='970893' date='Sep 28 2010, 05:10 PM']B5 I have ripped so many players than all my hackneyed riffs run into one big mess and it would be hard to find where I started..so of course, I try to pass it all off as my own style. But, for sure, for the puropse of this exercise and to sub-dived guys down even further.. LJ...all thumb..ditto Popwell. MK... LH pats and machine triplets..tbh, probably the least enduring style in terms of staying the course. No one uses it now but MK wannabees in pubs. I like what Caron is doing.. but Laboriel was all the RH flamenco approach for years before Wotten got hold of it...they have just been taking it on...IMV But if you had to ask me for a couple of guys that have been there from the start ( pretty much ) and are still first call now and have timeless styles in a groove sense, it would be Miller and Washington. Done well, I can listen to anyone...done way OTT and I am the first to turn off. If you play the style in songs. my rule is kind of 2 bars max... that way, nobody gets too pissed off with it taking over the track.[/quote]Im sure everyone in the history of bass playing has borrowed/learned from someone else..the real pioneers were the old double bass players and Larry etc, who learned from them... there is a way of EQ,ing, playing slap without overtaking a song and playing slap all the way through...depending on the song of course... i will usually back the tone way off on the jazz.. check out this track that Randy "Hope" Taylor plays on...to me this is very musical..he uses fingerstyle, double stop slides at the start, but the slap is so in touch with the music..... fairly simple, gives the bass line an aggressive bass line with just slap, pop and great rythm... masterful playing for me this.. would like to know your thoughts on this.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytQLBqIHak"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytQLBqIHak[/url]

what do you play bro?

QUOTE>>>Pick a player you like and nick his riffs...move on to the next one and after a few times of this, you could have a balanced non-cliqued attempt at the whole art, IMV.. i think your spot on JT...never a good idea to focus too much on a certain players techniques...giving yourself a broader outlook on the technique is great imo... once you got the basics down and incorporate what you know, you can make up stuff on your own.. i think its very easy to turn slap and pop into an exercise everytime you play it....keep it musical...this is not gospel, but when i first started the technique i only used my thumb and played parts that i would usually play fingerstyle..then build on that with pop... IMHO, unless you want to solo, the best slap is very understated...

love it...would love one of these...

Hi Lorry There is no reason you cant upgrade your MIM P bass to be as good tone wise as an MIA P bass..prob better with the right pickups......if your attached to it i would go down that route

yeah for sure.... also...listen, listen, listen, listen...

To get a good slap sound.. you can use either active or passive Round Wound strings I dont use any effects and you shouldnt need to...ok maybe a bit of comp Any fairly good amp There is no magic recipe, a good technique with the basics, touch, practice...its all in your hands...if you havent got this down, no gear in the world will make you sound better... ive seen awsome sounding slap coming out of an old Encore bass....fresh strings help though.. my point is you dont need to touch on all of your details to get a good slap sound... just to add it sounds like you already have the right gear for the job...even the Stingray, but with RW's

cheers..

what channel was this on? wonder if its on BBC I Player

i have a request.. who knows there GO GO funk...please get in touch...

[quote name='EdwardHimself' post='966216' date='Sep 23 2010, 10:42 PM']Jason Bohnam? That's pretty cool. I think you did say before actually...[/quote] i did...very nice man... awsome drummer, strangely..im sure i would be humble if i was that famous..

[quote name='ped' post='966206' date='Sep 23 2010, 10:34 PM']I like basses[/quote] i love the pipes of the condor

good god i sounded like a "ive played with a famous persons son and im a twat"....when i read that post.. what do i know about rock...not alot.. im not saying bashing isnt out of the Q...but there are times for both...ok sensitivity is the wrong word for the man..he still has some awareness of what was needed and what wasnt... i wonder if john could do a jazz gig.. Now that would be smokin..

anyone got doubts about the Sadowsky tone..oh yes its the Mezzoforte tune again...the "in the mix" sound is good enough imo.. but when he solos the Sadowsky tone its unbeatable..the slap and pop tone is very special. i love the sound of this bass...i will get another Sadowsky one day... i think it sounds as good outside the mix as in..poss the best distinctive super jazz sound available today IMO... ok you may not like the feel and it didnt feel right 'in the shop' what a crock of XXXX..in the right hands a sadowsky is a beast... just my $ [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc4oPqmCbFA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc4oPqmCbFA[/url]

[quote name='Bigwan' post='966130' date='Sep 23 2010, 09:25 PM']I bought my Lakland 55-01 used for £400. It's a fantastic bass for that money. Hangs with anything under a grand (and to me it's better than the musicman stingray 5 i used to have). Also, if you can find one, there's the Cort RB5/Josh Paul signature. If you can handle the tight string spacing an Ibanez atk305 is worth a look too.[/quote] i agree..the 55-01 is a killer bass.. the Elrick/Cort is great aswell..both are great but the Laky tops it for feel i think....if you can get one for that money i will be very jealous..ive been after one...those basses are well up there...if you change the old bart pre and pups, i would even say they are up there with the USA Laklands..i know that sound obsurd but ive played both and there isnt that much between them.. i had a 55-01 with a nordstrand fatstack and another nordstrand pickup, i cant remember, with a glockenklang pre amp and it was way better than my Sei..that is in tone..

this is a perfect example of a band listening to each other...the band that i rehearsed for were erm...not like this...which is a sh*tt*r...oh well it was only stroud as shakin stevens said about Alan Partridge's biography "Lovely Stuff" .. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etGneEo0_y4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etGneEo0_y4[/url]

[quote name='Beedster' post='966058' date='Sep 23 2010, 08:37 PM']And imagine all the great records that wouldn't have been made if not for everyone bashing away. I'm reading Neil Young's biog at the moment, and no question, there's a guy who liked everyone to be bashing away, often without rehearsal (certainly after the mid 70's anyway). Always a thorny area for sure, but volume has it's place. C[/quote]Maybe i should have said in the context of the music of the music i like and that we were playing chris...ive been in a band playing led zep and even then there was a time to bash and a time for silence.... John Bonham bashed away, but he new when to and when not to...i was round his sons house about 6 months ago and he said he was really a very sensitive drummer when he was practicing...

[quote name='essexbasscat' post='966048' date='Sep 23 2010, 08:30 PM']One of my pet grinds, this topic I've lost count of the times over the years where the situation has been; - Very little or no sensitivity to approaching how a note, a song or sound is initiated, expressed, the duration of the note - Very little attention is given to the team as a whole - Very little or no attention is given to letting the song breath. As a result, a wall of sound is produced that Phil Spector would have been proud of. This results in indifferent teamwork The casualty is quality. At the very start, each band member seems to be totally focussed on the next thing they are going to play or sing. NO ATTENTION APPEARS TO BE GIVEN TO ACTIVELY LISTENING TO EACH OTHER AND RESPONDING TO EACH OTHER'S CUES. I can count on one hand when this has not been the case and a band actually pays attention to 'light and shade'. The volume issue is secondary to these initial problems IMHO. If everyone is actively listening to each other, then the volume would tend to be appropriate to the given situation by default. I honestly don't believe it's unrealistic to have a vision of good musicianship as a pole star in a musical career. It certainly drives me on to aspire to better performances and ongoing attempts to materialise the concepts of; - Groove - Articulation - Technique - Emotion / feel - Dynamics - Tone - Phrasing - Appropriate rests, or space I don't often (if ever) get the lot together, but I keep trying to keep my eye on the ball. What drives me on ? the vision / dream / hope of that nirvana and the beauty when it all falls into place and the band works as one unit, in the moment. Those sweet moments will make it all worth it. T[/quote]this is the best posts ive ever read on Bass chat...it has nothing to do with the fact that i agree with it swear!!!!!

im not really talking about live stuff..im talking about working out how we gell with each other...this was the first rehearsal that they were giving me and i was giving them... imagine you were recording and everyone was bashing away.... i wouldnt make love like that, so in turn i wouldnt make music like that...the two are very similar..

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='965943' date='Sep 23 2010, 06:40 PM']To loud? No Censitivitey, Na Articulashun? Dat's just wen I is talkin. U Shuld ear me wen I plays... [/quote]HA!

[quote name='JFielden' post='966019' date='Sep 23 2010, 08:05 PM']I love Jazz Basses! However I was thinking more around Xmas to purchase (Bday and Xmas are close dates for me)... I can't expect them to hold it untill then really :/ Which sucks[/quote]it wont be the only one bro there are lots of MIM 5 string jazzers around...make sure you get the deluxe active model with the pre....tis uch better with the noiseless pups..correct me if wrong.. some of the Iby's are cool though....would still have the Fender over anything at this price..the tone will kill anything...if thats what you like of course.. coming up to and Xmas is your best time to snag one....

there is a lack of IMO of 5vers in this price range....if it was me i would buy a Fender MIM Deluxe jazz..there is a sunburst one on ebay for 300 squids..marvelous bass imo....save up a bit more and stick in a aguilar preamp (£100 ish) and some DR's high beams...there you have it...instant monster boutique killer jazz bass... let me know and ill let you know the email of who is selling (permission of course) if hes not sold already