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[quote name='SteveK' post='1133368' date='Feb 19 2011, 02:01 PM']Why? I totally understand why a guitarist would use such a tuning. But why a bass player? He won't be playing open power chords...will he? The same notes are available, he just has to reach them in an unorthodox fashion, which would make study bloody hard work.[/quote] +1 If you really need the low C# then either drop tune C#F#BE (or even BEAD) or get a five string. Otherwise you're just making it harder for yourself with no clear advantage.

I know nothing about the Warwicks but I have an old earlier version of the Michael Kelly Dragonfly 4 and it works well for me. However, I've heard a lot of complaints about the Micheal Kellys too. There's no substitute for actually playing the bass and giving it a thorough examination.

[quote name='Doddy' post='1131709' date='Feb 17 2011, 11:45 PM']Nope,Fender bought Kaman Music who owned Genz Benz amongst others.[/quote] According to Wikipedia on 02/01/08 FMIC paid the Kaman Corporation approximately $120 million in cash to buy the Kaman Music Corporation which included: Ovation Takamine Hamer Genz Benz Toca Gretsch Drums Sabian Lee Oscar Hercules and many other brands.

[quote name='Johnston' post='1130090' date='Feb 16 2011, 07:20 PM']The closest is probably the 60th anni.[/quote]

And what about the Send-Return sockets?

[quote name='evilLordJuju' post='1127647' date='Feb 14 2011, 09:19 PM']Its almost an EB2 - actually an Epiphone Rivoli (still made by Gibson at their Kalamazoo plant, but with different headstock shape and inlay). I know i'm pedantic... sorry [/quote] If I'd actually bothered to look at it properly I might have noticed that it says Epiphone and not Gibson.

[quote name='Michaelg' post='1127405' date='Feb 14 2011, 06:26 PM']its almost definitely scott playing bass on that record. whoever it is, he is playing on either a jazz bass or precision bass with flatwound strings and using quite an aggresive picking technique. in terms of amplification you'll be looking at something with lots of mid range and treble whilst easing off the low end. i have a graphic equaliser on my ampeg so you can really control those frequencies.[/quote] I'd agree it's flatwounds with a pick and probably on a Fender and very possibly Scott Engel himself. He had played bass sessions in Los Angeles before he joined the Walker Brothers and of course two of the most important session bassists in Los Angeles were Joe Osborn and Carol Kaye who were both using flats with a pick on Fenders.

[quote name='chris_b' post='1126561' date='Feb 13 2011, 11:33 PM']I only saw Scott Walker playing a Gibson EB2 in the very early days of the Walker Brothers. It probably had flats at that time, but I don't know what he would have used on your record. After listening to Youtube: This is not my favourite bass sound but it sounds like flats and he's using a pick, if that's any help.[/quote] Here we go:

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1127313' date='Feb 14 2011, 05:11 PM']Best metal for bass? I'm going to say iron.[/quote] Iron is only any good for heavy metal. So I say aluminium.

If anyone's interested in the history of this problem, I recommend [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Temperament-Stuart-Isacoff/dp/0571234461/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297627397&sr=8-1"]Stuart Isaacoff, [i]Temperament: How Music Became the Battleground for the Great Minds of Western Civilisation[/i], Faber , 2002[/url].

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='1114174' date='Feb 3 2011, 05:26 PM']Or play fretless and be [i]very[/i] out of tune lots of the time![/quote] It's not out of tune, it's just spicy.

My 'acoustic' band doesn't use electric guitars but the acoustic guitars/mandolin/ukulele are amplified and we do have a drummer who mixes sticks and brushes and sometimes acts more as a percussionist than as a drummer. I usually use an EUB and/or a fretless Precision and a Mesa Walkabout combo. I am thinking about a fretless acoustic bass but it will be amplified just the same.

[quote name='TommyK' post='1126082' date='Feb 13 2011, 04:22 PM']Oh alright, alright.. I'll go. .....now about the 4 grand...............i don't have it see.....[/quote] Nor me.

[quote name='wesfinn' post='1125928' date='Feb 13 2011, 01:41 PM']I have been sent better photographers by the seller. It all looks legit[/quote] And are we going to see them?

[quote name='topo morto' post='1125479' date='Feb 12 2011, 09:48 PM']... Having just got a korg pitchblack+, I can actually see it happening... the note starts sharp, comes into tune and then goes flat ... ... Whadd'ya reckon?[/quote] I reckon it's close enough that no one will know.

Someone in Dorset needs to go and have a look - and take a camera.

[quote name='thumperbob 2002' post='1125437' date='Feb 12 2011, 08:52 PM']Try playing in a soul band where loads of tunes are in Eb without a low b. Even jamerson used a fiver sometimes. The argument is drop tuning where you could go downnhalf a step but still a bit inconvenient. Love my 5s[/quote] I (and many others more competent than me) have played in soul bands, even played in Eb, with an EADG four-string. It's what happened in almost all soul bands for thirty odd years. Jamerson did have a Fender Bass V but it would have been tuned EADGC and one story has it that he hated it so much that he threw it across the studio saying 'Never let me play that again'. I have no idea if this story is true. The massive majority of Motown, Stax, Atlantic etc output would have been done on an EADG bass. Of course five-strings are used a lot more today and if people want to use them or the musical director requires them to be used then fair enough.

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1125389' date='Feb 12 2011, 08:19 PM']Get a Bongo[/quote] Six string?

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1125359' date='Feb 12 2011, 08:05 PM']I've said this before, but I was in a band that insisted I tuned down to play Black Velvet because I didn't have a 5-string. I didn't, but I didn't tell them. I just played it at the octave.... They never noticed.[/quote] Excellent. Stealth tuning.