Beedster

I was at a gig Sunday and a mate mentioned the same venue was hosting a pretty big band from the 80's in a few weeks time so I checked it out. Seems the band in question are to all intents a tribute act who one by one have moved over to the band they were tributing, a band that no longer has any of the original lineup (I'm not going to mention names as I think the bassist may be a member here). As musicians would we all do the same if we were asked? Probably. Did I buy tickets? No. Sorry.

I imagine a few NDAs have been signed......

Normally I'd agree (see Gallagher versus Gallagher), but I suspect that Mozza has burned the last remaining bridge; he's been quite unpleasant even in public, I dread to think what he's like to work with over an extended period. I take my hat off to Marr for turning down what could/would no doubt be a massive payday and remaining true to playing music that he likes to play with people he likes to play with. He's also I suspect pragmatic enough to know that the tour would be unlikely to make it past a few weeks.... There's a sense reading around this stuff that people feel that Mozza has reached out with an olive branch and Marr, having not responded, is the bad guy. I suspect the truth is that Mozza - as do Liam and Noel - sees a massive payday plus a potential renaissance of his media status and possibly a chance to restore his very damaged reputation, while Marr simply sees no reason other than money to be involved. Part of me hopes Marr ends up on the Oasis tour just to really piss Mozza off

I find it amazing that Mozza appears to turn this on Marr, whose restraint and humour in response makes Mozza look even more pathetic. A good mate of mine summed things up rather nicely after Rock Astley’s Smiths set at Glasto ‘People love the music of The Smiths so much that they’re prepared to watch literally anyone but Morrisey sing it…’

Midwest Emo is so 2023, it’s moved west since 👍 BTW when I was a kid and first came across the idea of ‘West Coast Rock’, with my Anglo-centric view of music I assumed it was a product of Cornwall, Devon at a stretch. I used to look at pictures of Stevie Nicks on Mac albums and long for my family to book a holiday to Penzance 😆

Totally agree he’s now on my radar 👍

Gotta love the guy for his thick skin 🤔 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp352111wyxo

It’s the Daily Bassgraph 😆

Thanks Will, appreciate the response 🙏

Yes not sure why I didn’t suggest John @KiOgon having just received a lovely custom circuit from him. Highly recommend 👍

Interesting thread, which to me is just another example of the same old thing; despite what the manufacturers would have us believe, differences between all these different models are small if not non-existent in real terms. This section summed it up..... .... i.e., the two factors mentioned are really unnconnected with the quality, playability, and/or unique characteristics of the instrument. BTW I totally get it, the instruments we already have often just work better for us out of habit, sentiment, familiarity, whatever it is, but that doesn't stop the seeking that the manufacturers play on.....

You can trim them very carefully if they bother you but you don’t need to 👍

Just listening to them…. Wonderwall Don’t look back in anger Whatever Little by little Even if those were their only four songs they’d deserve a reunion, f***ing great songs 👍

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And if you want the Freudian account I can provide that also 😆

It’s a norm, every system has norms, it’s one of rock’s. But it’s not a rule or a law 👍

Oh god…… 😆

Agree with all of that 👍

Keanu is a class act 👍

There are differences between a pre-CBS and a Squier and a good quality and cheap bow of course, they're just not as many and not as extreme as our brain leads us to experience 👍

In a former life I led some psychology research. An interesting study examined the expectation effects of technology. In a double-blind protocol participants completed the performance trials in one of four conditions based around both the quality and the informed expectation of a piece of sports kit. 1. Told high quality given high quality 2. Told high quality given low quality 3. Told low quality given high quality 4. Told low quality given low quality Guess what was the major predictor of both quantative performance and qualitative perception? OK, it wasn't Nobel Prize-winning stuff by any means, but in 20-years of conducting this type of research we nearly alwasy found the same thing; if someone is told that the piece of kit (or drug) they're using is of certain quality, all other things being equal (or in this study, being deliberately unequal) they are more likely to perform in line with that expectation. Call it the power of suggestion, snake oil, placebo effect, cognitive dissonance, whatever you want, but as soon as you have an expectation of a piece of kit, whether golf club or double bass bow, the way you use it changes in line with that expectation. I've seen people pick up a pre-CBS Fender as if it was a religious artefact, and play it with a tangible sense of awe and deference no doubt aware that an instrument of such quality will pick up and amplify every nuance of their technique. They pick up a Squier on the other hand.....

As above, difference in the fingers (or thumb) and clever use of the instrument's tone control.

Agreed, Paul @walshy bought a Modulus Flea from me a while back, sold it on and had the extraordinary decency to not only tell me he was going to do so but to send me, in cash, the difference. Walshy also plays a very act role in the community and has on many occasions helped me and other out with purchases etc, in fact he was only last week hunting down a very specific instrument for me, you'll never guess what......... There's a few others on here I won't name who do not work that way sadly I was tempted a while back to start a thread listing basses sold on BC that are a) now for sale at an inflated price and b) not for sale on BC, the main issue for me being less the inflated price-tag but the fact that the new owner is often trying to hide the mark-up by not selling it on BC and thereby opening themselves up to comment in the thread. I thought better of it as I imagine it would have been locked within days, but as Lawrie @Burns-bass says above, all that happens in price inflation which does no-one but the dealers any favours. Still, it would have been fun to point out some of the bullshit, the 'my trusty old Precision' bollocks about an instrument they've owned for less than a week and possibly never even played