Beedster

I just took off a set of Gamut guts and replaced with Spiros with a view to using a Krivo live. Two rehearsals in and the guts are going back on. Cost twice as much as the Spiros but bloody hell they make the bass sound like a £10k instrument whereas with Spiros it sounds like the £2k instrument it is. In short, expensive but worth every penny 👍

Love this thread, love the bass tone in question, amazing how hard it is to achieve a lo-fi sound with hi-fi gear 👍

Ha ha, love it, Stranglers actually pre-prog 👍 Totally agree re the punk thing

If it wasn't for the need for 'small' I'd have said SVT also, if you can't get Geddy/JJB out of that just give up

It's more than that though, you simply will never know whether it's going to do the job in the band if you've only tried it in a shop. That, again, is why we have basschat. Is a Helix as per @BigRedX post the solution perhaps?

Imagine Jon Anderson on Stranglers vocals........ 🤔 Or Hugh Cornwell in Yes

This is why basschat exists, our brains are wired this way. We’re searching but we will never find…. 🤔

Indeed, there are easier ways of getting a lightweight Precision

That's Roxy Music sax, ELP keyboards, Bill Nelson guitar, and dare I say it, Yes bass (almost....)

Listening again tonight. Defo hearing more prog than anything else....

You want JJB tone but your current head is too aggressive/gnarly.....?

Humbucker is VERY close to bridge?

Agreed 👍

Completely agree, it's also a bit one sided isn't, we get to moan about them, sometimes by name, they get to apologise or similar. I'd love to hear what they have to say about some of us (note I have an excellent solicitor)!

Fair point

Ha ha, I know how you feel, that moment when it feels like the bass - and sometimes the entire building - is about to reach critical amplitude at resonant frequency and dissolve into a pile of splinters. Funny how everyone looks at the bassist and never the soundguy

Not trying to get into a fight, but to be honest these days it's a reasonable response. First, it's probably going to take him longer to look it all up while on the phone that it would have taken you, and he might have more calls waiting a shop full of customers also wanting attention. OK he might have been. alittle more polite if he only said what's written.... Second, given it's all on the website, what more can he tell you over the phone about the pros/cons of what they have in stock that you can't get one one or more internet forums (if I were going to buy any gear new the last place I'd trust for advice would be the shop and the first place I'd trust would be Basschat) Good to hear that Will at BB was very helpful, but I've hear bad stuff about him also. Bottom line is that you can get lucky and catch someone at a good moment, or get unlucky and catch them at a bad one. Doesn;t make Bass Direct or Bass Bros or the people who work in them good or bad, just human 👍

We've all had that moment on stage when we, and the band and sometimes the whole audience, gets the growing fear that something is happening in the tectonic space, only to find that minds are put at rest when you step on the mute switch

And another reason for a simgle mag PUP is that the soundguy (and musician) has a relatively simple proposition by comparison with multiple PUPs with different audio characteristics. Good soundguy* no problem, soundguy with low experience of double bass a different story * I use 'guy' as a gender neutral term BTW but should probably edit every post I've made over the last 15 years to 'soundperson' 👍

That's not entirely true Lawrie (your own Mumfords example suggests this). Yep some players will want the air of their £100k bass and custom guts to sing out through a vintage mic (nice), but the vast majority will simply want to send a reliable and strong signal to the desk from where it will be made to sit nicely with the mix. IIRC the guy from OCMS was using a Krivo when I saw them (and he was VERY loud). For sure, Chris Wood uses an Ear Trumpet and a piezo under each foot blended, but I suspect he's the exception not the rule.

I’m sure @Bill Fitzmaurice can explain the effect 👍

I used to worry about that a lot but found that while sounding crap close up it sound quite different - and a lot better - a few metres away where the people that matter are standing! In fact I've found that if it sounds nice and full-bodied to me on stage it probably sounds muffled and/or boomy out front, although as we al know every DB's different so this may not apply to yours at all. But try checking out recordings taken from the room itself to see how it's sounding out there

But if I did..... Little has changed, love Precisions, but started with Stingrays and have just bought one after a 15 year lay off. Suspicious of Jazzes, like a Ric but not enough to ever keep one long, hate anything that looks like a dinner table, even Wals. Who needs a list

I don't have the time