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'51s are the new black Andy. You watch, this time next year they'll all be playing them 👍

Likewise Michael, it’s undermining quality and creativity in so many professions at present, not just the arts, we should be pushing back at every opportunity 👍

Kev, thanks. Yes it does open up a debate, and one that could have happened here in this thread, because two well respected members highlighted IP and ecological factors, and I'd have hoped that the community response, as well as the moderating response, would have considered whether, as a online community, we should think more carefully about responsible use of the web. Absolutely we've probably all been on the wrong side of both debates at some point, but given we're currently sleepwalking into potentially catastrophic I/P and ecological crises - which effects us all as musicians and probably beyond (AI has already had a pretty disastrous impact on my field) - it would have been lovely to see support for those members who voiced concerns 👍

So @Kev, you're a moderator yes? Just checking

Yep, you're all muppets for sure

Gallery appear to avoid descriptions

I wish I had the length of time required to read The Gallery's extensive descriptions........ 🤔

An idea that seems all too obvious after someone else has had it But very interesting 👍

I've a fond spot for those threads which provide an answer to a question that wasn't asked, always entertaining

That is the way to do it mate, I'm sure that's pretty much what the band I saw in New Orleans did also. I find that for most of the bands I've been in, the soundcheck has been at best an unnecessary ritual (I've always advocated for Jack's approach), at worst an ego trip for one or more of the band who want to show anyone in the room that they're of higher status (in their own minds) than the rest of the band; the singer (usually) or guitarist (if it's not the singer) who whinges incessantly about his levels, tone, FX etc while the soundperson plays with the DFA knob and nods agreeably.....

People pay up to bring a quick end to the bass solo

Went to a gig in a club in New Orleans. Sitting at the table at 7.55, band due on at 8.00. No sign of them. About 7.58, the band walks through the bar, onto the stage, gets out their instruments, plug in, and at 8.00 on the dot started their set. That's how to roll if you can 👍

Yep, a good sense of smell is a useful trait when inspecting a pre-CBS, especially if it's in acase, I've yet to play one that didn't have something of the whiff of 60 years of sweat, alcohol, nicotine, and no doubt a few other molecules......

The more I look at BD's description..... 1962 Fender Precision Bass for sale, this bass plays beautifully but is made up of a few different parts. Replacement alder body, originally had a bridge pickup too (filled and refinished in Sherwood Green) 1962 Fender neck, had an ebony fretless fingerboard fitted at some point, but now wears a rosewood fingerboard, there is evidence of the fretless side dots on the neck now. Non original pots, non original pickguard. The more I wonder how they can possibly be asking £4.5k. 1. Replacement alder body, I assume if it was vintage Fender they'd say so, in which case we're talking a few hundred quid max 2. Had an ebony fretless fingerboard fitted is only relevant if some of that fingerboard is still in place underneath (I assume) the reosewood, that renders the neck value very low also. 3. Nor original pots and pickguard, again a few quid. It's odd that they don't make any mention of PUP originality which would be a factor, as well as tuners. But even if everything other than 1-3 were original, am I being too harsh in suggesting that it's a £1500 instrument tops, and that's in part because it looks bloody lovely?

It's antiques, and if you think second hand car dealers have some dodgy practices, you should look into the antiques world, in which the seller is often able to capitalise on the buyer's strong emotional need for the item to be authentic, as well as the fact that - given antique purchases are as much about bragging rights as owning a piece of history - buyer's sometimes don't care about authenticity if they are able to pass it off as authentic..... And if you think the antiques market is bad, wait until you get into the religious artefacts market, how many fingers can one saint have had, perhaps their saintly powers allowed them to keep growing new ones.....?

....and which shows what a minefield this space can be, having experienced some very descriptions of vintage instruments when I was buying my '64 - all documented elsewhere on this site - it does make me wonder how many people out there have paid a lot of money for a now cherished vintage Fender that is simply not a vintage Fender, often because the (reputable) shop took the easy route and were less than rigorous in inspection and verification. In this case looks like bass Direct haven't taken the easy route.

That's a good point 👍

Still a bloody lovely looking instrument however 👍

There are few basses as good as a good Ric 👍

...and a few discrepancies between the post on BC and BD's description - the originality of the body, the fingerboard material - guessing BD clarified some of the details hence lower price