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[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' post='1162058' date='Mar 14 2011, 05:35 PM']That's the pillock I mentioned in another post. He was sat right behind the GK stand with the same bass and amp for two days straight playing that %$@# at full blast. The only time he stopped was when he went over the other side of the path (about 2 meters away) to do the same thing on another stall. He didn't seem to have any sense of how much he was pissing people off. Sure, he had a few people watching him as they passed by, does that mean the rest of us want him doing that for hours at a time and playing over any potential customers that want to try out gear? Whenever the quiet period ended, he was always one of the first people to crank his amp (before other people had even started) and start churning out that noise at full blast. Grr, the guy really pissed me off haha. He was on an ego trip for 2 days without a care for anyone else.[/quote] He's clearly just a hobbyist. He's unlikely to land any proper work anytime soon if he just plays that crappy speed-slap-Mark-King-gone-wrong stuff all the time. Maybe he can hold down some real bass, who knows, although with the greatest respect to him I think it's highly unlikely. I don't think it's fair to chastise an individual for playing how they want, but demoing gear to the point of obnoxiousness drives me nuts.

Not far away from you mate! Welcome, enjoy the site.

[quote name='Jobo Pooks' post='1160754' date='Mar 13 2011, 05:33 PM']I'm over in Huyton.[/quote] Cool, I'm over the other side of the Mersey. I think if you're using tabs to get a basic footing of a tune then it's hardly a crime, but if you can get using your ear to figure out songs then you'll find that sooner or later the need for tabs will diminish and your musical ear will no doubt improve

[quote name='Jobo Pooks' post='1160741' date='Mar 13 2011, 05:28 PM'] Sorry guys, not my intention to throw coal on the fire you're fighting. Just after some links. I'm more into the Ry Cooder philosophy "If music sounds good then there's nothing more to analyse." Settle down, I don't want to get banned for starting a war..... I like it here.[/quote] Absolutely not your fault, you weren't to know! Where abouts in Liverpool are you based mate?

[quote name='hellothere' post='1160715' date='Mar 13 2011, 05:15 PM']And Doddy what makes tabs so evil?[/quote] Please nooooooooo! Not another thread discussing the merits* of notation and the evils* of tab (*switch as applicable)

[quote name='Jobo Pooks' post='1160215' date='Mar 13 2011, 09:53 AM']Looking for some bass tabs links. I know there's loads of them out there, but as this is a bass forum I guess the best ones will be known by folk here. Particulary looking for "Little help from my friends" Joe Cocker version for starters.[/quote] Welcome mate, there are a few different bass tab sites around that I'm certain you can use, but if I were in you, I'd take some time out to sit down and have a good listen to what the bass part does in the tune and then try and replicate it in your very own way. The biggest problem I have with tabs isn't that is discourages you from reading notation, but that a lot of the time they're wrong; written out by hobbyists without much care for whether or not they are the correct part. Whilst some people I'm sure will encourage you to find notation for it, I say that if the tabs don't work out for you then have a good listen to the song and translate to your own bass that way. It's good for your ear training! Best of luck.

[quote name='Clarky' post='1160068' date='Mar 13 2011, 12:43 AM']I absolutely agree. However this bears next to no relation to the slap pyrotechnics at today's Bass Show![/quote] I can only imagine Clarky! I like the pursuit of new sounds on an instrument, but my favourite bass players are more traditional in their approach to bass, and I think it shows in my own playing. I prefer to keep things grounded, I always felt that whilst slap works on the off occasion, most of the time it detracts from what else is going on. Posted this a while back that more or less outlines what I feel about it all! [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=113490&hl="]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=113490&hl=[/url]

You seem to be into the same sort of groove and playing that I like (late 60's, early 70's playing). I reckon you'll like these! The first tune is Jermaine Jackson with Nathan Watts on bass (Stevie Wonder's bass player). It's got a great feel, totally ballsey but not excessive. This one's 'Get On the Floor' by Jermaine's younger brother Michael! Louis Johnson playing bass. It's another great slapped part, rhythmically interesting and fits the tune very well. In fact as far as I can recall the entire tune was actually built around the bass line which is fairly rare and a testament to Louis Johnson's playing as Quincy Jones wouldn't let just anyone come up with any old part! Prince 'Let's Work' - think it could be Prince playing bass on this one. Cool groove. Freddie Washington on bass with Herbie Hancock, 'Just Around the Corner', such a great part.

[quote name='cd_david' post='1159699' date='Mar 12 2011, 06:40 PM'] The only tasteful and really functional slap i can think of.[/quote] This is just a classic example of slap being used to heighten a tune, it's sat so well with the kit and it's just a great bit of playing from Freddie Washington.

I don't hate it, but I almost never use it and find the mandatory use of it to demo gear incredibly tiresome! I love and respect bass players like Larry Graham and Louis Johnson but it dates records and is very much a thing of the past. I've not been to a bass show before, but I've seen videos of them before and I can only imagine what it must have been like.

[quote name='Doddy' post='1154337' date='Mar 8 2011, 07:30 PM']Plus,Manchester is only half an hour away where even more gigs await.[/quote] Precisely! I never got the attitude that if you're stuck in an area with not much going on that it somehow becomes impossible to get a gig. It's not, it's just a case of a.) being able to travel a small distance with your gear b.) being outgoing and asking for the gigs in the first place and c.) turning up, being professional, play a set to the best of your abilities and maybe you'll find that doors start to open to you other places as well. Once you've done a few gigs things tend to snowball, but you'll never get anywhere if you approach the whole thing with a negative outlook on it, it's all about being outgoing.

[quote name='JellyKnees' post='1154273' date='Mar 8 2011, 06:59 PM']That may be true to some extent (I think the Biscuits did quite a few local gigs in the early days), but I was really arguing against your suggestion that Wirral has zero musical backbone.[/quote] In terms of venues it is pretty much true. I wasn't referring to the artists that have come from the area. You said it yourself, most places are only interested in cover band material. [quote]I didn't claim there was a 'golden age' of local live music on Wirral, only that there used to be more and now there is less (in terms of original stuff). Liverpool has always had a fairly healthy musical scene...nothing has really 'shifted' as you put it. That's a fairly bizzare thing to say. Yes I have. We have had a couple of gigs in Liverpool and couple that fell through. The opportunities seems fairly sporadic to me, unless you are playing metal or indie rock. But I obviously don't know as much about it as you.[/quote] With the greatest of respect, you're either not looking or asking hard enough, or you've not been speaking to the right people. Getting a gig in Liverpool couldn't be easier. I've seen some excellent bands play round town and I've seen some equally terrible bands play, so unless you're really, really out there with what you're playing music wise then I'd recommend maybe exploring some more opportunities. You know as well as anyone that lives on the peninsula that the Wirral is not the shining beacon of live music and there's nothing to be gained from playing original material because there is simply no demand for such, with the possible exception of Pacific Rd that regularly host all sorts of stuff. If people want to see live music then they go to Liverpool, it's really simple. The Wirral isn't and never will be the right area to host live original music unless something drastically changes.

[quote name='JellyKnees' post='1154200' date='Mar 8 2011, 06:12 PM']No discernible musical backbone....ever heard of Half Man Half Biscuit? Elvis Costello? OMD? The Coral? Never mind...[/quote] None of the people you've just mentioned made a big name for themselves by playing pubs and clubs on the Wirral, they just happened to be from the area. Your argument seems to lack credibility. The only thing that's changed since the 'golden years' of live music if it indeed existed (I'm skeptical) on the Wirral is the geographical locality, which has shifted to literally 5 minutes from where you live. [quote]And zero desire? Are you sure? Regarding Liverpool, there are a hell of a lot of bands chasing a relatively small number of gigs. Many of the gigs are also pay to play.[/quote] Yes. If people want to see original bands play round here then go to Liverpool, it really couldn't be easier. It's obviously something you don't have much experience with because there's plenty of gigs to be had on a regular, weekly basis. Some gigs might have a pay to play scheme but there are plenty that don't, so again, I'll ask... have you ever tried Liverpool?

Haven't been overly impressed tonally with a lot of the Sadowskys I've played well built etc. but not what I was expecting them to sound like although I can't help feeling like if I owned one I'd probably end up loving it. I tried a MTD in NYC which really underwhelmed me considering the price.

[quote name='JellyKnees' post='1153886' date='Mar 8 2011, 02:47 PM']20 odd years ago there were loads of pubs and a couple of clubs in Wirral that put original bands on. Now there are bugger all, but there are loads that put covers and tribute bands on. Some of them are the very same venues. Maybe it's different in other areas, but I can only go on my own experience of the local music scene. Tonight Matthew, I'm going to be...[/quote] You ever tried going to Liverpool? Be realistic, the Wirral is mostly residential with no discernible musical backbone, where as 5 minutes across the water from you there's a wealth of live original music every night, just go to The Shipping Forecast, The Zanzibar, The Picket, The Masque, Bumper, The Magnet, The Static Gallery, Envi any night of the week and those really are just for starters. Tribute and cover bands might provide some brief flash in the pan entertainment in a lot of the live music venues on the Wirral, but they certainly don't kill off the desire for original live music (that's complete rubbish), and besides which there is near enough zero demand for it on the Wirral anyway.

Chris, I put the 'please delete' thing because I'd seen quite a few other people do it recently. I haven't done it on any other items I've sold in the past but this was purely by chance, nothing sinister involved, however I do feel like I should clarify this point seeing as you were 'suspicious' of what was going on having trawled through my earlier FS threads. What I will say was perhaps on some level I wanted to see the back of my FS thread as it had been a bit of a nightmare, though it still wouldn't have made a difference to me whether the thread was deleted or not, not even the slightest. I was simply following the example of what others were doing, figured it could be a space saving exercise but I guess not. Anyway, enough. We've discussed the ins and outs of my for sale thread and I think it's best left there, so I won't go into details (I didn't PM you back last night after my initial message not because I was ignoring you, I don't ignore PMs, but I didn't really think there was anything left to say seeing as the bass was sold and it wasn't to you). Once again, if I'd known it would have kicked up such a big fuss then I wouldn't have bothered, believe me, and there really isn't much more to say on the subject.

Didn't Will Lee have the pleasure of playing with Sir Paul himself? Most Beatles cover bands from my area (Liverpool, and there's a lot) don't get that sort of privilege.

[quote name='Fat Rich' post='1150421' date='Mar 5 2011, 11:41 AM']Wading straight into a lot of theory can be off-putting to beginners, it's good to get some instant gratification from learning to play an instrument. But I think once you've got past that stage it's time to start learning properly.[/quote] I've said it before, a young person taking up bass isn't interested in theory 90% of the time, they're interested in just playing their instrument as fast as they can and getting in a band so they can get some girls! I was like this until I was given lessons two or 3 years into playing my instrument. There needs to be that initial emotional connection with your instrument on the most base level before you go about tackling the theoretical side of things with a teen.