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[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1347294104' post='1798943'] ...you can encounter quite a lot of snobbery from session players who read towards those who can't. I've seen it on here, people going on about how in the 'real world' of gigs you need to read, no tab etc, i've witnessed it whilst on gigs towards those who can't... [/quote] These are the kinds of people who's arrogance will in itself lose them as many gigs in the long term as those who are unable to read. Reading is important for a lot of things, but as Pino has demonstrated, it's clearly not everything. [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1347296187' post='1798976'] ... but, as Palladino himself pointed out in the interview, if it was a reading session he wouldn't have got the job. [/quote] You get the impression from everyone who has worked with Pino that concessions are generally made for him, I should imagine he really is that good to work with. Anthony Jackson for example has commented on Pino's influence in the session world, and Anthony Jackson is probably the most accomplished and musically literate bass player I can think of who doesn't sing anyone's praises unless he means it.

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1347223502' post='1798295'] If it was my 'Do you really think so ... ' comment then it wasn't meant to be a criticism in anyway, so please don't take it as such. I was just saying that that wasn't my experience, yours is obviously different. If it upset you in anyway then please accept my apologies. It doesn't take musical training etc. , but it does need someone who actually listens to / is aware of the bass line (Indeed any part other than the predominant theme at the time). Hence in some tunes, (All Right Now (parts of), Wherever I Lay My Hat etc.) a deviation in the bass line might be noticed but in many others I still believe that the average punter is pretty unaware of what the bass is doing. I made a point in yet another thread re Smoke On The Water. I suspect that if you asked a random collection of people how the bass line went most of them would sing the main theme - not the bass line. I repeat - all in my humble opinion/experience: I could be wrong - it did happen once. [/quote] I was going to say pretty much the same thing and you beat me to the punch! Most people are blissfully unaware of bass guitar in the music that they listen to.

Depends how okay the pubs and clubs are I suppose. I started gigging when I was 17 with a slightly older band in venues round my area that were predominantly 'over 25'. We just never mentioned it!

What a hero.

Daz, what a legend. I really love trading on this forum because of the level of generosity of more than a few individuals in your hour of need, everyone is happy to help and it's just great! Daz really helped Ash and I out today in a big way. Thank you very much indeed. P.S your car didn't need anymore waxing or polishing, it looked brand spanking new!! Haha

Just did a swap with Ash and I couldn't be happier with his communication and the deal itself. He's a lovely guy to deal with, trade with confidence!

Hello everyone! My feedback section is long overdue as I've been buying and selling on this site for a number of years now. Many thank yous!

I'll second Ash's sentiments here, Daz really went above and beyond the call of duty to help us out of a difficult situation. What a lovely guy!

Unfortunately for me that's a total eyesore. I think my band might also laugh at me and try and open bottles of beer on it and such.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1346968082' post='1795598'] There certainly was a version recorded with some of the Blockheads playing on it. How much of that ended up on the actual release probably only Trevor Horn and whoever did the Fairlight programming of Relax knows. The article I remember said that while the Blockheads were more accomplished musicians than Frankie, their version still didn't have the feel that Trevor Horn was after. [/quote] The funny story went (I think) that Norman Watt Roy got called in one day by Horn, who got Norman to have a mess around sampling some stuff whilst Trevor sampled it on his new Fairlight, just having a laugh. Apparently the next time Norman heard his bass it was all over FGTH's stuff. Don't know how true it is of course, but with it being Trevor Horn I wouldn't be very surprised! Incredible producer.

Looks like it's got gangrene.

[quote name='wombatboter' timestamp='1346765433' post='1792844'] Well..you can't deny that Berlin can play.. [/quote] No way, absolutely the guy can play the hell out his bass. But so can a lot of other guys as well too, without the attitude and egotism he tends to drag around with him. Players I'd far prefer to listen to, players whose music is better as well IMO.

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1346754527' post='1792622'] PS Jeff Berlin thinks all fretless players sound the same. Jeff Berlin talks but he doesn't listen. [/quote] Jeff Berlin IMV is an idiot who gives but can't take. I've got no time for him and his general attitude irks me more than any other bass player I've read about or come across. Usually players so outspoken have usually had some major impact on music but I struggle to see what Berlin has brought to the table that other far more genuine and talented musicians haven't done already.

I had an epiphany when I was about 14 when I really started using my ears properly. I feel pretty unhindered by bass nowadays (for what I like to play at least, but I'm always wanting to learn and improve. That feeling you're describing is really quite something, isn't it!

This one for me please!

In the studio, working out a decent tone is everything for me right now. I've experimented a lot recently with playing through guitar cabs and utilising their spring reverbs for an 'Enrico Morricone' baritone sort of sound, using different mic combinations in overdub situations. There will also be times when all that is required is a DI in, or we'll mic up my regular cab. I'm always trying to work out what's right for the end product, then there's the 'do I play fingers or with a pick' plus pickup selection etc. Live it's a totally different story, I don't have the time to faff around with loads of different sounds/amps and effects so instead I've got a fairly 'stock' EQ setting that I try and work to the room and the rest of the band. I vary my sound with my hands and occasionally play with a hard pick. Maybe one day I'll be able to afford the liberty of a big setup and loads of different amps and different basses on stage but that's going to take a while!! Tone is important, but right now it's more important for me in a recording environment than it is live. I'm not necessarily out to recreate exactly what happened on the original record unless it's very specific.

Tribute acts don't offend me nearly as much as they seem to a lot of people on here. I don't think I'd ever choose to go and see one though I don't think. [quote name='musophilr' timestamp='1346520364' post='1790228'] Neil Young is a competent lyricist and has been known to write some good tunes, but he is a dreadful guitarist and his singing isn't much better. [/quote] Neil Young is a great guitarist.

[quote name='steve-soar' timestamp='1346518124' post='1790195'] You may have had a very lucky escape. [/quote] This, a million times over. You'll be thanking your lucky stars when they get royally screwed, and sure as the day is long, that will happen. Labels will rinse you dry given the slightest chance.

[quote name='Pow_22' timestamp='1346079319' post='1784952'] Just took the plunge for my 30th Birthday and ordered a Black/Black/Rosewood 70's RI P Bass from japan. Looks awsome on all the pics ive been emailed. All i plan to do is stick my usual flats on it and get the chrome covers added. The scrath plate already has holes drill for the pup cover so hopefully as long as i get a genuine fender cover if should fit straight on. Pics to follow when it arrives this week [/quote] Sounds like a lovely bass! Out of interest, which site did you order from? I've got a hankering for a Japanese P Bass.

I guess you can probably take some comfort in knowing that the 99% of bands I know that have had 'major label interest' have been totally taken for a ride, wasted 3 to 4 years of their life and ended up worse off than when they started, financially and musically. And to be honest, f*** em as well! You're better than that.

I wish I'd written 'White Christmas'.

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1346265865' post='1787257'] When Jeff Berlin said he doesn't play fretless because everyone sounds like Jaco, I think he had a point. For me, Jaco deserves the title of world's best ever bassist. His technique, attitude, composing skills, and sheer musicality confirm this. [/quote] The biggest problem with fretless players is that Jaco set such a precedent with how people now [i]perceive [/i]the fretless bass should be played. In reality we all play bass differently, we all choose different notes and rhythmic figures that encompass our own musicality. By Jeff Berlin's logic, every fretted Jazz bass player should sound the same too. But they don't.

[quote name='JellyKnees' timestamp='1346231323' post='1786662'] You did well then. I find the whole Liverpool Beatles tourism thing hugely depressing to be honest. I don't dislike the Beatles, but I'm not huge fan either, I simply wasn't part of that generation. In the late 70s/early 80s we had Liverpool bands like the Bunnymen, Teardrop Explodes, Wah Heat etc and there was definitely a feeling of a music scene that was looking forward rather than back to the 60's, unlike now where we seem to be drowning on an endless tide of nostalgia. I Iike the idea of the F**k Mathew Street alternative - I don't really like or listen to punk music anymore, but I applaud their spirit. [/quote] The problem is that whilst I largely agree with you on the slightly 'artistically bankrupt' (IMO) main stages of MSF, the alternative is a stuffy and pretentious group of promotors on the other side of town pushing their idea of some sort of moral indie crusade, and the music can be of equally poor quality too (overhyped, underwhelming). For the life of me I can't figure out what's worse really. Also, one such promotor did actually take control of the Williamson Square stage this year so it's a myth that these people are on opposite sides of the fence - on the contrary they've been colluding with each other this year.