SteveXFR

Not sure I can stretch to the preamp as well. I've got a LeBass preamp which is fairly nasty, that'll have to do

I do like a bit of Red Fang, his bass tone is just what I want

This discussion reminded me I haven't listened to Savages in ages. They've been blasting out loud all day.

That is good value but (this may be controversial) I don't like the burst with tort pickguard. It's a bit too motown looking for a doomy punky noisy old bastard

I would describe it as beautifully disgusting

I nearly forgot Ayes Hassan of Savages. Nasty bass tone and some of the very best, most creative post punk bass

There's loads of great female bassists. Paz Lenchantin, Kim Deal and Sean Yseult are some of my favourites. My own offspring is a fairly handy bassist, certainly better than me which isn't particularly impressive. Her school band currently have Hysteria by Muse and Orion by Metallica in their set.

My Generation - The Who Well that was the obvious choice

Beat it - Michael Jackson

Whole of the moon - The Waterboys

That G&L headstock is completely unacceptable

No

I should have mentioned I have already got a Squier affinity P bass. I like the neck and string spacing. I didn't like the stock pickups (replaced with Tonerider and Kl0gon wiring) it now sounds OK but lacks the p bass snarl. Some of my favourite P bass tones are Matt Freeman of Rancid and Jay Bentley of Bad Religion and JJ Burnell (Peaches specifically)

I forgot to mention I'm buying used so a lot of the options aren't current models. I know some shops sell used instruments but I don't know of any around here other than Bath Rare & Vintage guitars who don't sell instruments in my price range (up to £1200)

I've decided it's time to buy a p bass so started looking this morning and it seems one doesn't just buy a p bass, there's an awful lot of options. In my budget I've got a choice of US, Mexican or Japanese then there's player, vintera, 62 reissue, lyte and Roger Waters signature or PJ. Where's a good guide to what's what with precision basses?

I wish. I didn't have the looks to get them and I've only got uglier as I've got older.

I now have half the number of basses I had this time last year. Quite tempted to buy a Mexican P bass if I find a cheap and ugly one. Takes me back to my dating days.

Have you tried bring nicer to them? Maybe if you give them some romance then they will.

Jonny Appleseed - NOFX

Sabbracadabra - Black Sabbath

Limp Bizkit ended up sounding like a parody of nu metal and now Fred Durst looks like this. He looks like his own grandfather

Apart from Audioslave and SOAD, all of those are awful. I'm no fan of the offspring but they were pop punk not metal.

I think that was far too early for nu metal plus I don't think any of them have come out as proud boys in the last few years which seems to be a nu metal thing.

It was definitely popular but it was a bad time for rock music in general. Grunge was finished, rap and techno were huge. Cheesy pop and especially 80's cheesy pop were enormous. I blame Fear Factory and Body Count, smash those two together and you've got every nu metal song.

I hope so. Nu metal was a bit of a creativity draught, there were about 500 songs all using the same two note riff.