Annoying Twit

@Coldflows - how low can you get the action without buzz?

Very kind offer. To be honest, my initial gut feeling is that I'd quite like the bass. However, I can easily afford a £300 bass if I simply decide that I want to spend that much on one. Hence, I won't claim it and hope it goes to someone who really has no way of getting such a good bass otherwise.

I've been looking through Aliexpress for basses. I must admit that the Fodera copy that is the subject of this thread looks a lot better than the other Choderas I've seen. There's a black one that looks horrid, IMHO.

Oh, I see. It doesn't say B-Stock on the 'normal' deko page. While not all dekos are labelled 'b-stock' there, I suspect that it's just a labelling change, not that those instruments are any more 'deko' than they usually are.

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1434873828' post='2803393'] On the main deko page. [/quote] ?????? [quote][b] [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_pb_20_bk_standard_seri_deko.htm"]Harley BentonPB-20 BK Standard Seri Deko[/url][/b] [size=2] thomann [/size][size=2] Decoration, Harley Benton PB-20 BK Standard Series Decoration NOT for playing - just for decoration - electric bass. Bolt-on neck construction, poplar body, maple neck with modern C-shape, rosewood fretboard with DOT inlays, 20 frets, scale 864mm, nut-widt 42mm, thomann double-action... [/size] [b][right][size=5]€26 [/size][color=#777777] [size=2]£18.62 [/size][/color][/right][/b] [size=2] [color=#479612] [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/decorative_guitars_and_basses.html#"]Available immediately[/url][/color][color=#479612] [/quote][/color][/size]

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1434872923' post='2803380'] I was going to get the P bass but the fact it was a "b stock" deko put me off. If it's been returned by someone (makes it b stock) then I'd be worried it was genuinely unplayable. [/quote] Where does it say that it is a 'b stock' deko? I had a look at the listing, and can't see it.

They started going on last night, but something odd happened with Thomann's site, and they were appearing and instantly disappearing again. So quickly that the auto-loaded webpage I saw didn't have them. They went up at 11:25:41pm, and then disappeared at 11:25:46pm, which is as fast as my program can detect them disappearing. They then returned at 12:13:18am, and disappeared at the exact same time. I'm not sure how that can happen. When they returned at 04:17:43am, they then stayed on the system. The right handed P-bass is now sold out. The left handed version is still for sale.

Where is the video and/or review? The suspense is killing me!

[quote name='goonieman' timestamp='1434791989' post='2802819'] yeah, I know! haha... what an 'interesting perspective'. I found a different one on ebay and purchased it - a mid-90s bubinga corvette as well. Looking forward to hearing that distinctive growl! I don't mind the weight - I think its part of the sacrifice. [/quote] Photos!!!!

[quote name='The Admiral' timestamp='1434860634' post='2803342'] I don't think there is a tent made which could accommodate 2 egos of that size : maybe if you get a TARDIS version of a marquee. [/quote] Imagine the problems once Gene Simmons announces that if Gene wants to, Kim Kardashian is going home with him, not Kanye.

Do an extended bass solo between each song while your bandmates have a smoke or whatever.

Dekos! Right AND left handed standard precision basses. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_pb_20_bk_standard_seri_deko.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...d_seri_deko.htm[/url] [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_pb_20bk_lh_standard_se_deko.htm"]http://www.thomann.d...ard_se_deko.htm[/url] Why is the left handed bass £6 more than the right handed bass? Courtesy of me accidentally leaving my computer on, I know that these went up at 4:17am this morning. So, they've been around for two hours.

While I appreciate those that have given me serious answers, because of the inconsistency between posts, I still feel unsure as to what growl is.

[quote name='mrn1989' timestamp='1434703378' post='2801939'] I certainly have, video will be coming this weekend. [/quote] Could you please just give us a short paragraph summary of what it's like. As may be obvious from some of my posts, I'm a bit cynical about some of the 'chibson', 'chickenbacker' stuff. However, from the photos your bass looks pretty damn good and I was wondering what it plays and sounds like.

Not only does he think it's made in Japan, but he thinks that eBay rules don't apply to him: [size=4][quote] [font=Arial][color=#000000]PLEASE NOTE: [/color][/font][color=#000000][font=Times]I am not responsible for any loss sustained by the postal service. Registered and Insured mail rates available on request.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Times]Proof of posting on all items, scanned copy available on request.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Times][/quote][/font][/color][/size]

The thing that scares me about it is reports that if you're not careful, some of the fingerboard may come off with the frets.

It always makes me angry to hear about thieving gits. I hope that you get all your items back, except for one item which is inserted irretrievably up the anus of whoever it was that stole them.

Thanks. But when I go to youtube to listen for this less metallic 'clank', I can't hear it. E.g. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf9j9KC6j_0[/media] That sounds like a perfectly normal jazz bass sound to me. In this one, he's talking about growl and clank, but again it sounds like a normal bass sound to me. Is the growl the slight rattle he's getting? In this video he doesn't start playing until about 4:30 or so. he spends the rest of the time 'explaining' in what to me didn't seem a hugely effective manner. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2KQxp8aR_g[/media] Now I'm on this video, and there's definitely something going on there. Very twangy. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s46mFPjLX9c[/media]

I'm familiar with a lot of bass guitar sounds, but I don't really know what the term 'growl' actually means. I'm told my SR760 has loads of it, but don't really know what aspect of the sound that refers to.

LH Shorty Strat. http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_st_shorty_lh_bk_std_s_deko.htm Not really something to write home about, but I haven't found many dekos recently.

Your camera footage is quite wobbly. I can put in some cutaways to that footage, but I think that even image stabilisation plugins won't be able to remove the camera movement.

I'm downloading the file now. I won't be able to do anything about it until the weekend. EDIT: I have the video. The talking is quite quiet compared to the bass playing. Normally, I'd put that through a compressor to even them out a bit. However, given that the point of this video is to compare the sounds of different basses, using a compressor may be a bad idea. I'll put a limiter on at whatever peak limit you want, but will try and make sure that the natural level is such that the limiter doesn't appreciably change the tone colour of the basses. I could set the audio level to be reasonable for the bass playing, and then use mixdown automation to bring up the speech a bit. It depends on how even you want the sound. Given the informal nature of the video and the fairly clean soundtrack I don't think I need to apply any gating to get rid of background noise. What target level would you like the video to hit? Often videos are set to peak at near to digital full scale? Usually for that I'll go for -3dBFS to leave a bit of headroom. If it was to be submitted for broadcast, standards are very different, e.g. -18dBFS. I should be able to normalise either on peak or loudness levels. BTW: If you are going to upload to youtube, I believe that youtube automatically does loudness normalisation, though I have only heard this second hand, I haven't checked it myself. EDIT: I've played through the video. The volumes of the basses are inconsistent. As far as I can see, given that I don't want to compress which will change the sound quality of the basses (even with very long release times), the best option is simply to automate the volume of the lot, so that all basses peak at (say) -3dB. If you want a different peak level, then I can adjust at the output stage. As I presume Visually the skin tones especially look a bit saturated. With no offence intended to anyone, it would have looked visually better had the bassist not been quite so pasty white (I'm no better). White balance, as well as standard brightness, contrast, and saturation I can adjust. Oversaturated regions can't be fixed.

Wetransfer will work fine. I'm not sure if there is also a weshare, or whether my memory has once again proven itself unreliable.

[quote name='eude' timestamp='1434646350' post='2801511'] Wow, they've gone for it on this one, they've even got the headstock pretty much right >> [url="http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Active-Pickups-Custom-JUGG-Butterfly-Electric-Bass-Guitar-Rare-Guitar-Natural-Finish-Alder-Body-Maple-Rosewood/1006237_32348128205.html"]http://www.aliexpres...2348128205.html[/url] Eude [/quote] It is sometimes said that they will use photos of the genuine item on Ali Express, but what is received is different. I'm sure I remember someone on a forum discovering that photos of a guitar that he owned were being used on Ali Express.

[quote name='dougieb' timestamp='1434629996' post='2801332'] I have got a couple of 'Chibson' Les Paul's and I can assure you that they are not sh*t. You get what you pay for. They are very well made and finished off, the main areas to be ready to address are the electrics. The pups may be of Epiphone standard if you are lucky and they put 250k pots in them. A friend of mine who is a luthier was well impressed and said the wood was mahogany and it was a proper maple cap, not photo film or whatever. I also got the Chinese to chamber the guitars to drop the weight as I have Osteoporosis, which they did. I got them as projects and rewired them and put good pups (Iron Gear) in them and they play and sound great. I know they are not basses but I have attached a couple of photos to let you see what they look like. I also have no intention of passing them off, I have the real thing and when standing side by side anyone with half a brain can see the differences. Cheers [/quote] How would you compare the quality of the Chibsons to the quality of Les Paul copies that would cost about the landed cost of a Chibson? Something like a Michael Kelly Patriot, Vintage V100, Revelation RLP, Chinese Tokai or a PRS SE Standard? I've seen reviews of Chibsons that suggest that they are in the ballpark of cheaper Les Paul copies such as the upper end (for Harley Benton) Harley Bentons. What would you say?