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Carol Kaye, Pedestrian? CK was great at documenting her career, usually backed up by her fellow studio musicians. Back in those days,'demo' sessions were big business, usually paying the top rates. It was quite possible you played on something, but in fact, that particular cue didn't make the final cut. So, it was possible that CK may have mistaken her part for someone else's part on the same tune. Not saying that was the case, but might go some way in explaining some of her disputed track claims. Demo tracks were still invoiced and tax deducted. All in a days work of the studio musician. There where an awful lot of top, top arrangers, producers, Musicians, Conductors, MD's, Fixers and Orchestrators who sure did love 'Pedestrian'. [color=#1D2129][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][i]"Parts of 1970 and 1971, from my LOG and Appointment books....notice how I started quitting here - photo is Academy Awards rehearsal at Chandler Pavilion, and aside from a nice chat with Gregory Peck and seeing Harry Belafonte, it was pretty boring, pic is in the Pit with Quincy Jones...."[/i][/font][/color] [color=#1D2129][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][i]LOG & Appointment books:[/i] >>>>>>>Feb. 2 Studio Center, Storefront Lawyers, Berardinelli, CBS Feb. 3 Sound, Bob Thompson, Yada Feb. 3 Fox, Theil. Room 222, Fox Feb. 3 United A, Group and 1 Singer, Hal Blaine, 2//4 Sun. Sound, Joe - Tipton, MGM 2//4 Col. Gary Puckett, Helfer, CBS Records 2//5 Univ. TV Film, Helfer, Univ. 2/6 TTG, Stern Agy., Botkin-Stern 2/6 Harmony Hse. Girl Singer, Roxy Roth, Bob Florence, 4-Star 2/9 Para. 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Smith, Art Butler, CBS 4/10 Sun W, Styner, Dave ? ,Hendon 4/14 Studio Center, Berardinelli, CBS 4/14 Record Plant, Bob Lind, Jim Bond, Doug Weston 4/16 Record Plant, Bob Lind, Jim Bond, Doug Weston 4/17 Record Plant, Bob Lind, Jim Bond, Doug Weston 4/16 Haselov’s, spots, Artie Butler, Stern Agency, Tal. Payments 4/17 United, Hal Blaine, Wes Farrell Cap. 4/30 Record Plant, Bond, Doug Weston, Not Rep. QUIT RECORDING. Only did Publishing Co. but began to teach, and then play seminars with Joe Pass.[/font][/color] [color=#1D2129][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]8/4 Talent Payments, Mattel, 7250 Beverly Blvd, LA 90036. 9/5 Rec’d Phonograph Mfg. Royalties. 9/31 2 jingles, Talent Payments 11/13 Univ. Universal 11/16 Univ. Universal 11/20 Sound Factory, Jim Helms 11/23 Col. Gary Puckett, Chaiken, Columbia 11/23 Cap. !, Cap. 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[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1479547129' post='3177338'] What a bunch of f....ing moaners. Wind it in guys! £3000 a school A YEAR buys a lot of equipment that can be SHARED between pupils. Imagine what you'd buy with gas if you had £3k a year to spend. As for the moaning about all kids want to do is play on computers, you're the parents, stop them! I get sick of this getting trotted out in the media. Then when the kids play in the streets all the grown ups complain about the noise and whether their precious cars are going to get scratched. Unbelievable. Kids are not all stuck at home on computers all day. I spent a whole day at Olympia last Saturday at the drum show. Plenty of talented kids there playing drums and testing kit and bugging their parents to buy them £800 worth of cymbals (no son lets just get the hi-hats for Christmas and a set of sticks today.) Electirc drum kit for under £300 excellent for learning on. [/quote] [quote name='molan' timestamp='1479558948' post='3177448'] The entire comment really. The attempt at an analogy using Russian dictionaries isn't relevant and simply doesn't work. Kids are not listening to music we grew up with - There's lots of new music around that's incredibly popular. May not be to your taste but it's readily available. Just turn on any radio station (or check YouTube or FaceBook music channels) listened to by school age kids and you'll hear some. Sure there's a lot of vocal biased music but that's always been the way. Young kids now are using modern instruments and these will include sampling, synths, drum and rhythm tracks etc. That's just progress, a bit like musicians using a 'Fender bass' in the 50's & 60's instead of an upright. Try going to a concert where acts are performing that are popular amongst younger people - the passion and feeling for their favourites is palpable and exciting to witness. You may not like the music but you can't question the passion at these events. A secondary school local to me has really put some effort into generating interest and participation in music. Their main music room is now really large and has at least 20 decent quality Yamaha & Casio keyboards, quite a few laptops with recording and sampling software, a drum kit and lots of percussion and a couple of guitars. The walls are plastered with all sorts of inspiring and educational stuff. The school now has a great reputation for musical performances and the music room is a popular place. They even let it out to people like our band to rehearse to keep it being used as regularly as possible as a music place. All of this is really inspiring and great to experience. Putting more money into schemes and progressive thinking schools like this can only help to inspire more young people to enjoy music more. [/quote]

Reaper is a 'trial version' - until you pay for it... Most DAW's do a fully functional 'Demo version' for 30 days. It's never been easier to 'try before you buy'....Without wearing an eye patch and having a Parrot balancing on your shoulder. ras52 makes a good point above.

[quote name='TrevorR' timestamp='1479428874' post='3176562'] Another cracking podcast this week on improvisation. [/quote] Improvisation? That should go down well on Basschat...lol.... Thanks for the heads up on the programme.

A couple from 'Bob Minzter' and his big band charts (with two different bands). http://youtu.be/Ioc2voPbkM8 http://youtu.be/e8gne5vjJzI

I use TouchOSC for iPad. I have mapped presets for both Audio channels, mixing and FX, along with presets for controlling all midi CC#s and parameters. This has been a great workflow improvement, more so for all things midi related, that were a fiddly pain with the mouse.

Stingray threads are always a good excuse to post some Louis Johnson. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjqOsYRQI0o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdYwglFL6iM

Lovely opening solo from 'Christian McBride'. (The rest ain't bad ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V39lXlaj830

'Clams' happen to the best of them. 05:30... I think it's Frank Gambale. A few laughs all round. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWBkVucVMCY

This thread has had far too many bars rests of late. A nice arrangement of 'So What'. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xakwGW9IBsI&feature=youtu.be[/media]

[b][i]"AM I ELIGIBLE?"[/i][/b] [color=#000000][size=5][i][size=4]"Any professional musician working or living in the UK is eligible – no matter your age, genre or instrument. By professional musician we mean someone who has earned their living substantially from music for a significant [/size][/i][/size][/color] [color=#000000][size=5][i][size=4]proportion of their working life. Students are currently not eligible to join the scheme, unless you can demonstrate that you earn the bulk of your income through music."[/size][/i][/size][/color] [color=#000000][size=5][size=4]But Like Owen said above, the worst they can say is no. Just fill out the form and find out.[/size][/size][/color] [color=#000000][size=5][size=4]Had to rearrange my appointment. That will now be next week (Even so, still only three weeks from applying).[/size][/size][/color]

[quote name='ped' timestamp='1479229675' post='3174925'] Where do they do memory tests. [/quote] At the Dentist.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1478957669' post='3172961'] Time for an update, as I've grown very old. My luvverly little friend and surrogate grandchild, the 6-year-old from next door, was supposed to play Sudoku on my 15 years old Nokia. Instead, she quickly ran through the menus and took pics of everything she saw - - mainly of my dog of course, but also this one of me. [url="http://s1170.photobucket.com/user/basstractor1/media/Bert%202016%20-%20512x596_zpsfj1kxhgf.jpg.html"][/url] [/quote] Love the glasses. Your discription paints a great picture and something of interest to me. Seems like you can still peer over the top for a 'Selfie' as well.

You are not restricted to major chords of a particular scale. I think that is the point of the OP. Nothing at all stoping you adding a Bb major into a tune written in the key of C major. Or a D major chord for a tune written in E major. Fleetwood Mac's ' Don't Stop' springs to mind. Or playing Bb and Eb major chords in a tune written in the key of C. 'Can't Get Enough', Bad Company.

So, I presume the six string version has the low B and high C strings somewhere around the back of the neck. Nice sound though.

RIP Leon Russell. Great writing, covered by many. http://youtu.be/WVtYNbFAxrY

[size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]I came out of music college and went straight onto Cruise ship work (all over the World for a couple of years).[/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]Depending on the gig, I found it was a combination of busking Jazz tunes in the Lounge or bar area, through to heavy sight reading in the theatre production shows.[/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]Sight reading shows is much different than sitting at home going over a few things from books. At times, it can all happen very quickly, fast tempos/cut common with lots of segues.[/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]The first time, it can be unnerving when in the heat of battle, but you do get used to the routine of it all, very quickly.[/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]You will come across all manner of time sigs, key changes, pencil markings and amendments, very fast tempos, even tempo/meter changes during a number.[/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]There will be MD'S waving their arms about (so you will need eyes all over the place), click tracks and a huge variations in music styles. [/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]You will/can get visiting artists (some very high profile names) coming aboard for just one show, [/font][/color][/size][size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]with just an afternoon for rehearsal. [/font][/color][/size][size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]So you need to be a quick learner.[/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]Maybe try and get hold of some show pads for 'real life' reading experience. Another possibility, check out your local[/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]Theatre for any touring shows. Go to the stage door, ask for the Bass player and inquire if it is possible to sit in on a show. Believe it or not, people don't mind (as long as the MD clears it of course).[/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]Through doing Cruise ship work you will get to meet plenty of musicians, MD's/contacts - So make the most of it.[/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]My contacts from the ship days helped get me into playing on static and touring professional shows (through recommendations to show fixers and other MD's etc).[/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial, sans-serif]I say go for it and enjoy. It was something that kicked my career on and opened up other musical avenues for sure.[/font][/color][/size]

[quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1479048638' post='3173513'] "In favour of something less cliched" was my comment; not "In favour of something more complex." [/quote] I was kinda joking, Arthur. In a funny way I did agree with you. But then, I was thinking back over a lot of chart tunes through the decades that I liked. And I couldn't think of that many with the cliched chord sequence(s) you were talking about. The first half dozen or so were not even close. California Dreamin' Wake up Everybody Don't leave me this Way MacArthur Park One Day I Fly Away Street Life Never Too Much Africa I could go on and on...All with Combinations of Minors, Sus 2 or 4, Extensions, Inversions. Chromatic Bass lines. But then again you did say "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]continue to be written and recorded", so I presume you are talking about in the very recent past?[/font][/color]

[quote name='arthurhenry' timestamp='1478940772' post='3172801'] How is it that songs with chord sequences such as I, V, IV and I, V, VI, IV continue to be written and recorded? Surely any songwriter or artist with any integrity or artistic worth would avoid such overused, over-familiar changes in favour of something less cliched. [/quote] I wouldn't knock it. You ain't had it so good. A lot of the guys on this board wouldn't even be playing in bands, if it wasn't for these duff composers and their silly little chord sequences. Fancy a whole night of 32 bar, chord a beat Jazz changes? What about busking your way through Enigma variations? or the 1812 overture? What about this with a refrain? You know how hard it is to get good keyboard players? Ukulele players ain't exactly growing on trees (hanging from them maybe) Stop being silly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEymZ3rXOmc

Yes, 'Dave Grusin Presents West Side Story'. I picked mine up in NY quite a while back, but it looks like you can get it in the UK. [url="http://intl.target.com/p/dave-grusin-presents-west-side-story/-/A-11526826"]http://intl.target.c...ry/-/A-11526826[/url] Studio sessions and Interviews. All good stuff. Certainly one of my favourite (big band) albums. Everything is all on a ridiculously high level, playing, arranging, solos, singing and production. [media]http://youtu.be/51dLfy8Gevs[/media] [media]http://youtu.be/sPA3v2OyOis[/media] Sorry for the Hijack. On the other hand, it is John Patitucci playing on and outstanding album.

I am also a big fan of JP, on both Instruments. Not seen that Video before (Blimey, I just realised the Video is over 90 minutes long!). Thanks for posting. (All those Basses!!. I would like to spend a night in there ) Funny enough I was listening to him yesterday, on the Dave Grusin 'West Story' DVD/album. Absolutely superb playing and arranging all round.

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1478976712' post='3173120'] I blame the consumers. If only they were better musically educated they wouldn't be misusing their buying power to strangle creativity. The bastards. [/quote] [quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1478976074' post='3173113'] And some songwriters take the most convoluted, left-field chord structures and turn them into dull, formulaic fodder for the elite. [/quote] That's more like it.

[quote name='visog' timestamp='1478975437' post='3173110'] Dunno who the strummy guitar player was but not Mike Stern unfortunately although I dont think he could save it... [/quote] I think that is Chuck Loeb. Synth Guitar not happening, which is unusual for him.

It's not the chord changes or sequences giving you a headache. The Melody is dictating where they go, the chords are just harmonising. Want a better, more interesting chord sequence? Write a better, more interesting Melody. Not so easy now, is it? Good luck with it, it is difficult. EDIT: Bilbo makes a couple of good points in his post.